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After a User Dies, Apple Warns Against Counterfeit Chargers

After a Chinese woman was earlier this month evidently electrocuted while talking on her iPhone while it was plugged in to charge, Apple is warning users to avoid counterfeit chargers. From CNet: "Last week, reports surfaced in China that suggested the woman, Ma Ailun, might have been using a third-party charger designed to look like the real thing. Although third-party chargers are not uncommon, they vary widely in terms of safety and quality. Earlier this year, safety consulting and certification company UL issued a warning that counterfeit Apple USB chargers were making the rounds and that consumers should be on the lookout for them due to their lower quality and possibly dangerous defects. The company posted the guidance on its site after a woman was allegedly electrocuted while answering a call on her iPhone."

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  1. Smart move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Whether or not the counterfeit charger was the cause, they have reinforced their image and promoted their chargers (as well as discouraging customers from buying their chargers elsewhere).

    1. Re:Smart move by Tough+Love · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's the "big lie". What is the charger for an Android phone? Oh right, a standard USB cable. What is the charger for an Apple product? Oh right, an electric chair waiting to happen. Compounded by the aluminum case. Hey isn't that the same aluminum case that makes an awful antenna?

      Apple: think deadly.

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    2. Re:Smart move by Stormthirst · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I never understood why iPhone's adapter is a completely retarded pile of junk. What's wrong with the standard USB adapter like everyone else? Oh aside from them making a cock load of money from cables.

    3. Re:Smart move by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 5, Informative

      Nope.

      Both iPhones and Apples come with a little AC->USB charging brick and a cable. The difference with most Android phones is that the cable is a standard USB cable, not a 30-pin or lightning cable. But the brick is the dangerous part.

      Ken Shirriff did a couple excellent tear downs last year comparing the build of the Apple charger vs a cheap knockoff.

      You can have this exact same problem using a cheap knockoff with an Android phone so be careful!

    4. Re:Smart move by blueg3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not that I particularly like the cable, but some reasons are: It predates USB being a standard for charging devices. It used to need to support FireWire in addition to USB. It still supports running audio and video over the wire in a "raw" form (rather than as some USB data device), which is actually a fairly useful feature.

      Only the last of these is really useful any more. If that feature happens to be useful, the iPhone implementation is actually fairly good. Using Android phones as video sources tends to suck. A few phones have mini HDMI connections (note that the iPhone connector predates HDMI, too), but not many. A few have stupid proprietary HDMI + USB ports that at least are compatible with conventional USB-only cables. Some phones support screencasting or video sourcing through DLNA or proprietary solutions, but those require a network.

    5. Re:Smart move by Rosyna · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's the "big lie". What is the charger for an Android phone? Oh right, a standard USB cable. What is the charger for an Apple product?

      The Apple charger has a standard USB power port. Just like all Android chargers that plug into a power outlet.

      Here is Apple's standard USB charger. Note that it has a USB port.

      Here is a Galaxy S4 USB charger. Not that is has a USB port.

      Either charger can be used interchangeably to charge either phone.

    6. Re:Smart move by twistedsymphony · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Didn't apple recently change their proprietary connector design around the release of the iPhone 5? and doesn't that new design remove support for raw audio/video through their proprietary port?

      The old iPhone connector was excusable for the reasons you've stated... the new one has no excuse to not conform to the new standard aside from Apple wanting to further bleed their customers of money.

    7. Re:Smart move by hawguy · · Score: 4, Funny

      "purchased threw a reputable source"?

      Really?

      I've played that sentence through my screen reading software 3 times and it sounds fine to me.

    8. Re:Smart move by cosm · · Score: 5, Funny

      Incorrect. The difference is the iPhone has the best new...
      (*_*)
      ( *_*)>-o-o
      (o_o)
      ...killer app.

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    9. Re:Smart move by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stinks of BS PR to me. "Might" have been using a 3rd party charger? Please... Get the facts first and then release the article. What if it turns out the charger was an official apple one? Huh? Then what?

      It is also irrelevant. If the iPhone allows high current to pass through from the charging port to the user, the iPhone has a defective design.

  2. Huh. by Entropius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There are lots of "third-party" Android chargers out there -- ordinary MicroUSB things. If "counterfeit" (i.e. non-Samsung, or whatever) chargers were a problem, wouldn't this happen all the time with Androids?

    Sounds like Apple is just taking advantage of the opportunity to scare people into paying the Apple Tax.

    1. Re:Huh. by wzinc · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can buy non-Apple chargers, but they meet Apple's spec:

      http://www.belkin.com/us/Device/iPhone/d/IPHONE?q=::categoryPath:/Web/WSPWR

      Apple is asking people not to buy counterfeit or unauthorized ones that don't meet the specs.

    2. Re:Huh. by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I think something was lost in translation. It's not the third-party chargers that we would normally buy, it's the ultra cheap inferiorly made chargers that pass themselves off as an Apple product that is the problem.

      The best advice for any country and any make of phone is that when looking for a replacement charger that plugs into your home's AC be sure to choose a charger that is certified for safety (e.g. UL, CE, MEPS, RCM, C-Tick. I guess the closest Chinese equivalent are CCC, CCIB, CCEE).

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  3. Re:Not buying it by MBCook · · Score: 5, Informative

    No one is being killed by the 5v on the USB bus. The problem is the counterfeit chargers are often poorly designed and can fail in a way that shorts the USB cable to the AC power.

    There was an excellent teardown & analysis of a cheap charger last year that pointed out serious safety issues.

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  4. Re:Not buying it by rsmith-mac · · Score: 4, Informative

    Take a look at a teardown of a fake charger and you'll understand why it can be lethal. The creepage distances in particular are atrocious.

  5. Re:How? by Rosyna · · Score: 4, Informative

    No one is going to die by having 5volts applied to their face.

    But they do die from having 220 volts applied to their face.

    The issue is that the counterfeit chargers short and deliver the mains directly to the head. It doesn't matter what electronic device is involved. hell, doesn't matter if any electronic device is connected to the end of the other side of the USB cable when the circuit is completed.

  6. Wait a minute... by holophrastic · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you saying that China has counterfeit electronics? And that they don't meet safety standards? This simply must be a joke.

  7. Re:Not buying it by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 4, Funny

    Current shmurrent. She died because she wasn't holding it right.

  8. Designed that Way by tuppe666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The new "lighting" connector is very solid and handy, contrary to micro USB.

    Its designed that way for obvious reasons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB#Mini_and_Micro_connectors
    "The Micro plug design is rated for at least 10,000 connect-disconnect cycles—significantly more than the Mini plug design.[38] It is also designed to reduce the mechanical wear on the device; instead the easier-to-replace cable is designed to bear the mechanical wear of connection and disconnection"

    1. Re:Designed that Way by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Lightning is also symmetric. I can't figure out why they didn't poka yoke USB-Micro. Every single USB standard is just slightly different but not easily apparent in the dark which way is up.

      USB-A, USB-B, Mini-A & B, Micro A & B. Would it have been impossible to make it completely symmetric and eliminated 90% of the problems I have with USB?

  9. These are switchmode supplies, not linear.... by Ellis+D.+Tripp · · Score: 4, Informative

    , and they contain a bit more than a simple transformer and regulator.

    They take the AC line voltage, rectify it to high voltage DC, chop the DC up into high frequency pulses with a MOSFET, step the pulsed voltage down with a specially designed transformer, then rectify the output to low voltage DC. A sample of the output DC is then fed back to the primary side circuitry to achieve closed loop regulation.

    Because the primary side of the system is at line potential, the insulation in the switching transformer (and the optocoupler used in the feedback loop) is all that prevents the output side from presenting a shock hazard with respect to earth ground. The quality of construction of many of the Chinese knockoff chargers is downright terrible, and I could easily believe that an insulation breakdown. Dave Jones "EEVBlog" did a teardown of one of these a while back. Scary stuff if you know what you are looking at:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wi-b9k-0KfE

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