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Google Chromecast Reviewed; Google Nixes Netflix Discount

adeelarshad82 writes "While it's more limited than the Roku 3 and by no means Google's answer to Airplay, Chromecast sets itself apart from other similar products simply based on its price and potential of bringing Internet HDTV streaming to many more people than before. Priced at only $35, it's a direct stick that plugs into your HDTV's HDMI port and lets you stream media from Netflix, YouTube, and Google Play through your smartphone, tablet, or notebook. Unlike the Roku Stick, it uses a separate micro-USB port instead of MHL to power it. This on one hand means you need to run a cable from the stick to a USB port, making it much less neat than it would seem. On the other hand, it means the stick works with any HDTV, whether it has an MHL-capable HDMI port or not. Once connected, the setup itself is fairly simple and entirely app-controlled. Past the setup, your streaming content choices are currently limited, though Google released an API for the Chromecast, so more apps could support it in the future. For now Android users can stream media from Google Play Movies and Music, as well as Netflix and YouTube whereas iOS users can watch Netflix and YouTube via the Chromecast. From a computer, users can stream media from Netflix, YouTube, Google Play, and Chrome. Unlike Apple TV and AirPlay, Chromecast doesn't let you stream your locally stored media. In fact Google Play Music gives an error message when you try to play music you loaded on your device yourself and not through the Google Play store. All in all, at $35 it's the most affordable way to access online media services on your HDTV." El Reg also got their hands on one. Alas, one perk of grabbing the Chromecast is gone: Google ended the free three month Netflix bundle that was worth almost as much as the cost of the Chromecast itself after sales were much higher than expected (so high it looks like they ran out of them after only a day). Update: 07/26 21:20 GMT by U L : iFixIt posted a teardown of the Chromecast.

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  1. Local media does stream by symbolset · · Score: 5, Informative

    From Wired's Dongle Style review:

    Yes, you can play local video. At least some of it. A not-strictly-speaking legitimate copy of Black Mirror in MKV file format played magnificently on our television when we dropped it in a Chrome browser window.

    Likewise, if you’re running it in a browser, Amazon Instant video, Hulu, Rdio, and HBO Go all just work. As did video from Wired, Gawker media, and Flickr slideshows. We ran photos from Facebook fullscreen. We watched a live Flash stream of a Braves game on an extremely shady bootleg site that spawned approximately a gazillion Chrome windows in the background.

    Good luck getting one though.

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    1. Re:Local media does stream by Shados · · Score: 2

      it can still be useful: I have a smart tv, and it has an "app store" with quite a few more obscure video streaming service, not just the big ones like netflix and hulu.

      It, however, doesn't support Google Video. And while it supports Amazon Video, that has pretty shitty support on Android if you don't use a Kindle Fire.

      Yeah yeah, DRM evil blah blah, but if you WANT to use the same "evil" service on both devices, this helps a lot.

  2. Re:What's the big deal? by TWiTfan · · Score: 3, Interesting

    When you can buy a full-featured Roku 3 for only $100, I don't really get it either.

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  3. Clever strategy by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. Make a splash with all the tech review sites by announcing your new $35 product comes with three free months of Netflix, guaranteeing that you'll get tons of press.
    2. Stop the offer after one day, without warning.
    3. Profit! By taking advantage of all the people that will only find the initial review when they check out your product, and so won't know the deal is off.

    4. Whisper "don't be evil" al the way to the bank...

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    1. Re:Clever strategy by Pope · · Score: 5, Insightful

      5. Only show pictures of the device itself plugged into the back of a TV, not with the required power adapter & cord, to make it seem smaller than it really is.

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    2. Re:Clever strategy by arnott · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you have HDMI 1.4+, the power adapter is not needed.

    3. Re:Clever strategy by LordLimecat · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It seems like the most surefire way for Google to "be evil" in people's eyes is to have special offers and go the extra mile. Offer google reader for free for years with a cutoff date? Evil! Offer free netflix, with a cutoff date? Evil! Donate to charity-- but only SOME of your assets? Evil!

      Apparently the only way for them not to be evil is to only ever donate the entirety of their assets, offer services in perpetuity, and ever make any money whatsoever.

    4. Re:Clever strategy by Demoknight · · Score: 2

      I'm fairly confident somewhere near 100% of the people who are the market for this device would have made the purchase without the Netflix voucher at that price point... please provide counterpoint.

    5. Re:Clever strategy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      False. HDMI 1.4 did not add any additional power to the spec, and the 50mA that HDMI does require actually comes from the *source* - which would be the Chromecast.

      MHL does add power, which is what the Roku streaming stick uses, but it's not clear whether or not the Chromecast supports that.

  4. Cute, But ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's a cute device, but not really ready for public consumption. Its restricted (or incomplete?) support means you can only use what Google lets you rather than any video on the source device.

    I'm sure they'll improve the compatibility, but until then it's just a device that streams Google approved content.

    1. Re:Cute, But ... by bjwest · · Score: 2

      It's a cute device, but not really ready for public consumption. Its restricted (or incomplete?) support means you can only use what Google lets you rather than any video on the source device.

      I'm sure they'll improve the compatibility, but until then it's just a device that streams Google approved content.

      This makes it just as ready for public consumption as any 'i', Win8 or kindle device out there.

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    2. Re:Cute, But ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      google approved content??? no, its limited to those apps that have the ability to use the cast feature, right now netflix, some google services (youtube,play music, ect.) and through the chrome browser, are what have the ability, not because of some conspiracy of google approved content, but because the SDK was just released with it, so it a couple of months there will be an several video players that allow you to play whatever.

      Until then its just a device that works with apps that take advantage of the cast feature, whether google "approves" of it or not.

  5. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I can buy an entire movie studio for a few million bucks, so I don't see why anyone would want something less than half the price.

  6. Re:What's the big deal? by slaker · · Score: 2

    Android Media Players tend to be a little bit sketchy. I have a Pivos Xios and I quite like it, but mine is running Linux. Under Android, there are a few too many drawbacks to make it worthwhile, starting with the limitations of a stock Android interface when using a remote control or some kind of mouse.
    The general problem that Android players have is that they tend to be under-powered, particularly compared to top-end phones and tablets. Developers are working hard, but for now there are still odd limitations in playback support or worse, an inability to support high quality playback when a proper source IS available. They wind up being acceptable targets for streaming media, but only at modest bit rates and for a limited subset of codecs. We all WANT a low-power, fanless device that can run Plex or XBMC with application support for every streaming service under the sun, but no one is making that box quite yet.

    That said, I don't think the world is exactly crying out for another way to get Netflix or Youtube onto a TV in the living room.

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  7. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    When you can buy a full-featured Roku 3 for only $100, I don't really get it either.

    According to Wired.com "[I]f you’re running it in a browser, Amazon Instant video, Hulu, Rdio, and HBO Go all just work. As did video from Wired, Gawker media, and Flickr slideshows." I have a Roku and love it, but I also have Comcast. That means, in its infinite retardery, I can not watch HBO Go on my Roku. If this really does work as well as Wired says it does, I can watch it through the Chromecast Chrome browser, making my Roku a paperweight.

  8. watch bootleg sports for cord cutters by alen · · Score: 2

    that's the only thing i can see using it for if i didn't have an apple tv and a Mac

    if you don't pay for cable you can stream live sports to your TV now instead of watching it on a computer

  9. Re:What's the big deal? by slaker · · Score: 2

    Roku units are god-awful for playback of local content. They're only half a solution to the Smart TV problem.

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  10. Re:What's the big deal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Roku units are god-awful for playback of local content.

    I'm running Plex on mine, which seems to work well. Gotta set the server up on a pc, but it seems pretty low impact.

  11. Re:If it doesn't even play homemade ogg/mp3 files by Baloroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Doesn't allow"? You mean none of the apps at launch do that. Considering you can write your own sender and receiver apps, it allows you to do just about anything you can code.

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  12. Except that it completely sucks that way. by guidryp · · Score: 2

    That is a very poor workaround, that plays the video locally then does some messy screen casting to give you compression artifacts/chop/stutter and lip sync issues:

    http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/24/4553368/hands-on-googles-35-chromecast-a-streaming-tv-stick

    Perhaps most interesting of all, we got to try a new beta feature of Chrome that lets you stream the contents of a web browser tab itself to your TV via the Chromecast. It's not particularly impressive yet: scrolling doesn't come close to keeping up with your finger, and there's visible compression artifacts whenever there's rapid motion: it's a lot like streaming game services like OnLive and Gaikai, but with a lot more delay. ... Video plays with only a bit of chop and stutter, and lips don't quite sync up with the audio, which could be maddening for some.

    WD TV, Roku aren't that expensive and handle local streaming flawlessly.

    1. Re:Except that it completely sucks that way. by guidryp · · Score: 3, Informative

      I see nothing at your link which differs from information here.

      You just have people arguing about the same two Verge/Wired stories on the tab casting.

      Regardless that Wired didn't notice any issues with it, it is still a poor solution. Wired used it to play a TV show MKV, likely lower resolution so they may not have noticed the problems. They spent a whole 2 and half lines of text covering the feature.

      Verge has more extensive coverage, including how it works. It plays the video locally on your computer, then uses WebRTC to essentially send screen caps to the device.

      This is the critical part: it needs to recompress the video again in real time to send it to the chromecast.

      That is bound to destroy quality for most people and cause hiccup on higher resolution materials.

  13. Re:Nice except that it needs Google's cloud... by stigmato · · Score: 3, Informative

    I want a cheep device that simply mirrors my screen (from whatever device, like a VNC viewer) to my TV over my LAN. Give me that and I'll be a happy camper.

    Using Chrome and the Chromecast Extension you can mirror your screen. Simply click the "Cast" button and select "Cast entire screen" under the arrow.

  14. Re:What's the big deal? by maccodemonkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do you not know how to set up a webserver to stream your library from your local share?

    Is there a reason I should have to do this?

  15. Re:What's the big deal? by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

    Because that "something else" in this case is a million dollar Sony Handycam, fucktard.

    And not even one of the good first gen ones that let you see through clothing.

    I think if you own the movie studio you will have little need of seeing "through" clothing. ;)

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  16. Hacking. by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 2

    I really hope the hacking community gets behind this thing. (At $35 I expect they will.) If someone can figure out how to get XBMC to run on it then my Christmas shopping is done.

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  17. Re: What's the big deal? by Karlt1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Setting up Plex Server:

    1. Download Plex and click install.
    2. Choose folders to share from.the web admin client.

    Setting up client on Roku:

    1. Choose Plex app from store
    2. Let Plex find server.

  18. Re:If it doesn't even play homemade ogg/mp3 files by shimage · · Score: 4, Funny

    Perhaps I am in the minority here, but "anything I can code" is the same as "nothing".

  19. fucking AMATEURS! by sootman · · Score: 2

    Even if most products are NOT hits, everyone HOPES for one, and an organization as big as Google should at least PLAN for the possibility of one -- and at this price, SOMEONE in the googleplex should have figured out that it had a good chance of actually being one. They should have either a) had an infinite number of Netflix discount codes available, or b) CLEARLY publicized "First N customers get 3 free months of Netflix!" And then be prepared to reach N in a matter of minutes.

    For as many PHDs as Google has, it's continually surprising how much stuff like this they screw up.

    (Sorry for the caps. I'm tired and don't feel like writing tags. Dear Slashdot, its 2013. Please get a rich text editor for comments -- bold, ital, underline, strikethrough, lists, blockquote, and link oughtta do it.)

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  20. Re:If it doesn't even play homemade ogg/mp3 files by LordLucless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So the fact that you can't do it equates to you being not allowed to do it?

    I'm gonna find the bastard who's not allowed me to be a pro athlete and sue him for decades of lost income.

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