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Hands On With Motorola's Moto X

adeelarshad82 writes "After months of speculation, leaks, and cryptic tweets, Motorola's new flagship smartphone is upon us. The Moto X runs Android 4.2.2 and is powered by the new Motorola X8 mobile computing system that includes several chips: a 1.7GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro, as well as a natural language processor and a contextual computing processor that handles the sensors. The phone carries a 4.7-inch, 1,280-by-720 display with 316 pixels per inch. Also since the phone features an active display, time and other selected alerts — text messages, missed calls, etc. — are shown without having to wake up your phone. Among the other features that Motorola talked up was the touchless control. Once activated, you can talk to your Moto X from up to 15 feet away. The Moto X differentiates itself from the other droid phones with customization options, and since Motorola is assembling the Moto X in Fort Worth, Texas, the company expects users to have their customized Moto X within four days of placing an order."

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  1. Android 4.3? by KugelKurt · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So a Google subsidiary can't use Google's latest OS? Lame... I rather get a Nexus instead.

    1. Re:Android 4.3? by AuMatar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Believe it or not, validation testing for carriers takes a long time- months. Switch a major piece of the software and you have to restart from scratch. This device probably entered testing before 4.3 was announced.

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    2. Re:Android 4.3? by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 2

      So a Google subsidiary can't use Google's latest OS? Lame... I rather get a Nexus instead.

      My guess is they were already well into the carrier qualification/test process with 4.2.2 when 4.3 launched. It seems reasonable that a 4.3 upgrade would be forthcoming. And since the unlocked versions are supposed to have an unlocked bootloader, I imagine CM10 will be available pretty quickly, so you can get your 4.3 goodies that way instead.

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    3. Re:Android 4.3? by figleaf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't understand.
      If Nexus and iOS devices can be updated without carrier interference, why can't everything else be similarly updated.

    4. Re:Android 4.3? by Sir_Sri · · Score: 2

      You take the chance on your end that your phone accidentally uses 50MB of data a day doing that, or no longer works or the like.

      Well, apple I'm sure has a special deal. But with a droid, that's your problem if you do that. But if the carrier is pushing it out they want control over it.

      This is definitely somewhere MS or one of the big Android players could have gone for the jugular in the market and said 'the carrier is a dumb pipe and you control updates to YOUR device".

    5. Re:Android 4.3? by tlhIngan · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, apple I'm sure has a special deal. But with a droid, that's your problem if you do that. But if the carrier is pushing it out they want control over it.

      This is definitely somewhere MS or one of the big Android players could have gone for the jugular in the market and said 'the carrier is a dumb pipe and you control updates to YOUR device".

      Except Apple has pretty much DONE that. Hell, they've gotten carriers to bend over and take it too - see Russian carriers dropping iPhone support because of onerous terms.

      Samsung is officially larger than Apple now - they beat Apple at their own game - turning $600M more profit than Apple in mobile devices. Profit, not revenue - $5.2B vs. $4.6B. Yes, over 10%.

      And Microsoft was smart enough to be able to do this too - while their Windows Phone rollouts are more phased rather than Apple's just-click-upgrade-yourself method, but they control those updates as well.

      Hell, Apple still does two things that few Android vendors do - they provide the OS update file so you can update it on your PC (Nexus devices have images you can flash, but it's not as easy or convenient as just clicking "Upgrade" in iTunes). Second, with iOS apps, you can download them on your PC and sync it over to your phone. If it's a large app, it's a lot more convenient to use your PC to download it over its wired connection rather than your phone to do it over wifi. And you have a backup too - doesn't matter if Apple removes it or anything, you always can reinstall it via iTunes sync.

      Yes, iTunes is hated, but it certainly has some useful features.

  2. Active display? by uglyduckling · · Score: 2

    "Also since the phone features an active display..." - as opposed to all the phones with inactive displays? Nice slashvertisement, with almost no technical details.

  3. Re:How about the big question... by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How unlockable (if at all) is the bootloader?

    It's a fully locked device. This is not a Nexus successor.

    How conventional. Google could have thrown a grenade into the portable world. Instead they make a Samsung wannabe, complete with bloated marketing budget.

    Not interested.

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  4. Re:yes but.... by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hiding is not the same as removing.

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  5. Re:This got me, too. by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 4, Informative

    What, exactly, does this mean, and how is it different from my current Android phone and widgets to show me these things on the lockscreen?

    It uses the screen instead of a notification LED, but only powers the portion of the screen necessary for the alert instead of turning the whole display on. I'm not sure how this works, but that's what they're claiming. It's not at all like a lock screen.

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  6. Re:This got me, too. by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 3, Informative

    My Nokia C6-01 does this. It has an oled display, so presumably it only uses power for the illuminated pixes, with little power drain (as opposed to backlighting an entire LCD screen). So it always has a clock and other notifications on-screen all the time, without needing to press anything.

  7. $575- 16GB, mid-range CPU, AT&T-only 32GB/colo by CritterNYC · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's $575 for the 16GB ($630 for the 32GB which is AT&T only at present) and no microSD so you're locked to that size. The customizations options are similarly on the worst-rated carrier in the US, AT&T. T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon get a black or white 16GB version. That's it. It's $199 for the 16GB one on a 2 year contract, which is the same as you'd pay for a top-tier phone like the HTC One 32GB or the Samsung Galaxy S4 16GB (with microSD so you can add up to 64GB more space on the cheap).

  8. Re:yes but.... by contrapunctus · · Score: 2

    it still takes up space. and does hiding it mean disabling it? or does it still use up the battery if it runs in the background?

  9. Re:This got me, too. by timeOday · · Score: 2

    That is really cool. With the advent of 4K TVs, it has occurred to me that it will be awesome to watch video games, sports, or movies on a 70" 4K display with surround sound and a big subwoofer, but that's way too much for watching news, or kids shows, or anything that should be background for at least some of the people nearby. It would dominate the whole living area and waste a lot of power. So it would be nice to just use 1/4 of the area in the middle for a non-upscaled 1080p display.

  10. Re:How about the big question... by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Informative

    Engadget's preview claims that any custom Moto X ordered from their Moto Maker site comes with an unlocked bootloader. I'm guessing carrier-sold phones would have a locked one.

  11. Re:This got me, too. by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    And then your 1080p stream can be surrounded by 3 more 1080p's worth of adverts

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  12. Re:yes but.... by Adult+film+producer · · Score: 2

    No.. but it does listen to you 24/7. That's a nice feature.. don't worry about the NSA or anybody else snooping on your conversations.

  13. Re:yes but.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm tired of excuses from people like GP. If a binary still exists on the storage medium. It is not hidden, uninstalled, or anything else. It is still prone to being executed. This is basic IT folks.

    What does "prone to being executed" mean? You can't launch it. The OS won't launch it. I suppose you could root the phone and launch it from the debug shell?

  14. No difference by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    Apple makes both the OS and the phone

    In this case, the same is true of Google. They wholly own Motorola and designed and produced the X.

    Nexus phones are different.

    Yes they are - they are re-badged phones made by someone else!!! They are not AS close to Google as the X phone and yet they always get the latest release.

    What you want is for Moto to crawl up inside the Android team

    Do you really mean to say the Motorola team was not working hand in hand with coreOS developers? No way is Google that stupid.

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  15. Re:yes but.... by Miamicanes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > I suppose you could root the phone and launch it from the debug shell?

    This is Motorola we're talking about. I'd strongly advise NOT taking that for granted if it's a factor in your purchasing decision.

    Motorola has a long, sordid history of locking down bootloaders, then abandoning once-flagship phones less than a year later. Did I mention that the Photon & Electrify have the nearly-exclusive notoriety of being just about the only known modern Android phones with a real risk of getting bricked while rooting?

    Personally, I'd buy a pocket hostpot and haul around a wifi phablet for the rest of my life before I'll *ever* willingly buy another Motorola Android device with a locked bootloader. I totally bought into the mass delusion at XDA that Google would somehow clean house at Motorola, make them non-Evil, and turn our phones into de-facto (if officially-unsupported) Nexi. Obviously, we were wrong.

    Motorola (with Google's blessing) didn't just abandon us... they chained us up first, then shoved us face-first onto an anthill just to make sure we were *really* fucked.

    Don't buy a Motorola phone unless you're 100% cool with buying a dead-end phone that you'll never be allowed to fix when it ends up sucking.

  16. Re:yes but.... by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    Yes, but does Motorola know it yet?

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  17. Re:yes but.... by davester666 · · Score: 2

    Yes. Motorola is the reason why Google's evil bit got set to 1.

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  18. Re:Ingress... by shuz · · Score: 2

    Likely better than most other phones. You'll have a much better chance to be able to run both ingress and either a G+ chat or something like ITTC mobile/Ingress intel map. All other non-nexus 4 phones, as far as I am aware of, have the Android 4.2.2+ dual app feature restricted to using only about 12 apps, non of them worthwhile to ever run two of them at the same time. Unless of course you really enjoy being in a G+ chat while watching youtube or looking at google maps while chatting or watching youtube...

    This could be a good phone, we will just have to wait until people have more time to play with it, break it down, and develop for its unique features.

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  19. Re:Not close to essentially by kllrnohj · · Score: 2

    Not on a device without expandable storage its not.

    And really not even then.

    Yes it is, because it sits on /system which is a fixed size partition. Actually deleting the APK would get you exactly 0 bytes more storage *and* would break the factory reset option *and* breaks incremental OTAs.

  20. Re:yes but.... by jkflying · · Score: 2

    The Moto X ships with an unlocked bootloader. Take that as you want, but to me it is a sign of change. I know, personally, I swore off of Moto after one particularly bad experience, but this might change my mind.

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  21. Stereotypical objections to the MotoX by jkflying · · Score: 2

    ERMAGERD LESS CPU CORES SUCKS!!! I RUN 4 CPU INTENSIVE TASKS AT ONCE, ONE WITH EACH OF MY INDEX FINGERS, AND ONE WITH EACH OF MY NIPPLES.
    I LIKE TO KEEP 1BAJILLION MOVIES ON MY PHONE IN HIGHER RESOLUTION THAN THE SCREEN! I NEED A 1TB SD CARD.
    I CAN TELL BETWEEN 1080p AND 720p AT NORMAL VIEWING DISTANCES ON A 4.7" SCREEN!
    I NEVER EVEN USE MY PHONE, I JUST DROOL AT THE SPEC SHEET!

    Yep, that pretty much summarises all the complaints I've seen.

    If you look at the benchmarks, it does better than or equal to a Galaxy S4 on everything except GeekBench, where it still ties for memory speed. So I wouldn't call the CPU/GPU 'mid-range', like everybody seems to be saying.

    People want 1080p on a 4.7" screen - are they crazy? I really don't understand where that sentiment comes from. It's just more pixels for the GPU to push around, and it means your games will run worse.

    So, they have 'just' 2 cores and a 720p screen, this gives better battery life without making the phone massive. I can totally live with that. I really like what they've done here. They've looked at the system as a whole, and instead of loading it with pointless shit like Samsung, or going with massive bezels on something that's meant to fit in your pocket like HTC, they've made almost the entire front of the phone a screen, make it fit in your hand nicely, given it great battery life, and great performance. And it's customisable and made in the USA. It even has 802.11ac.

    What else do you want? And be reasonable, this is today's tech we're talking about.

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