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First Laptop With Full-Sized Solar Panels Will Run On Ubuntu

iwritethings writes "The Sol, a rugged-looking laptop with built-in foldable solar panels is designed for use in the military, education and developing countries where electricity is scarce. The Canada-based makers behind the Sol claim that the device can run directly off solar energy or can harness the sun's rays to charge the laptop's battery in under two hours. Once fully charged, the battery is expected to last between eight and 10 hours. While the concept of solar charging gadgets isn't new, this type of battery life is unprecedented. There's no word on when Sol will launch, but its headed to Ghana first, and it will run Ubuntu Linux."

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  1. Matte screen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hope it comes with a matte screen. A glossy screen would be unusable out in the sun.

    1. Re:Matte screen by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

      Seriously, I wonder if they thought this out. Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun? You can't even see the screen cupping your hands over part of it.

      Maybe LED backlighting could get it barely bright enough without sucking down the battery in 3 minutes.

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    2. Re:Matte screen by niftydude · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whatever happen to those colour E-ink screens Pixel Qi was working on? They would be perfect

      I was at a conference last year where some japanese guys were working on a microfluidic transflective displays - they are essentially as bright as the ambient light level is - those would also be pretty good for this.

      Come on people - we need low power daylight readable screens already.

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    3. Re:Matte screen by Dereck1701 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Who says you need to use it in sunlight? Use it for a for however long you want indoors/under shade and then put it outside to charge. According to the article/summary it has a 10 hour battery life (probably embellished to be sure, but it probably lasts at least 6 under normal usage). If the designers are really clever, they'll give it two separate battery packs, one that stays with the laptop and one that is attached to an undockable solar module. Use the laptop indoors (theoretical 5 hour battery life) while you leave the solar module in the sun. Re-dock the solar module and it starts transferring at least partial power back to the laptops batteries (not sure how well laptop battery packs can transfer +90% of their power to another battery but 50/50 distribution should be relatively easy) so you can place the solar module back in the sun more quickly.

    4. Re:Matte screen by Seumas · · Score: 3, Funny

      Has anyone ever tried using a laptop in the sun?

      This is Slashdot. We haven't even been in the sun.

      Maybe LED backlighting could get it barely bright enough without sucking down the battery in 3 minutes.

      My 2.8ghz 17" Macbook Pro probably consumes around 30 watts for normal usage, so with a 13" screen and lower powered everything, I would imagine this laptop would do fine - especially if they were to replace the hard drive with an SSD. Unless there has been a dramatic improvement in solar panel technology, I believe you should be able to get about 10 watts per square foot of panel, right? This looks like it has around 1.5sqft of solar panel, so while it might not be able to run continuously on solar power, using it in the sun should certainly supplement a fully charged cell such that it could run all day long without another charge?

    5. Re:Matte screen by fast+turtle · · Score: 2

      the OLPC (one laptop per child) project has a sunlight usable screen so why in hell couldn't this one use the same thing?

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    6. Re:Matte screen by X0563511 · · Score: 2

      I have seen (it was a long time ago) a device that had some kind of light-collector on the top of the screen, that worked like those little plastic light-guides used for LEDs. The end result was that the brighter the ambient light, the brighter the screen.

      If they don't have something like that on this, I don't know why the hell not - if only to save power by reducing the requirements for screen backlighting!

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  2. Seems like a terrible design by SSpade · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A separate set of solar panels could be used to power / charge things other than a laptop, and a set of solar panels connected by a cable would let you sit in the cool shade while using the laptop during the day, rather than having to sit out in the sun (where it's hot and you can't see the screen).

    Assuming it's real, which I have some doubts about - a couple of square feet of solar panels provides enough power to drive four or five laptops?

    1. Re:Seems like a terrible design by pla · · Score: 5, Informative

      a couple of square feet of solar panels provides enough power to drive four or five laptops?

      My PC draws under 45W average, and around 20W idle. At my latitude, that would require about 4 square feet (as in, 2x2, not 4x4), and I live pretty far North.

      Computers have gotten a lot more efficient since the bad ol' days of the P4, and solar panels have gotten a lot cheaper (like under $2/W). Given a laptop specifically designed for low power, I have no trouble considering this an entirely realistic design goal - An 8sqft 100W panel and a few laptops that draw 10-20W? You could probably even manage it with OEM hardware, never mind anything hardcore optimized for power.

  3. But wait, there's more! by Dputiger · · Score: 2

    For just $350, you can buy a laptop with implausible capabilities at an improbable price point! But does it clean with the power of lemon?

    Yes. Yes it does.

    1. Re:But wait, there's more! by gman003 · · Score: 2

      Actually, other than the solar panels, this is a completely plausible machine. Ultracheap 13" 1366x768 display? Check. Ultracheap, low-power Atom? Check. Less RAM than my laptop from five years ago? Check. Cheap disk drive, not pricey flash? Check.

      And don't forget, they're probably getting some subsidies, just like the other "cheap computer for the Third World" projects.

  4. Re:In a nutshell by Skapare · · Score: 5, Funny

    I want you to have one. You obviously need a new caps lock key.

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  5. FINALLY! by chromaexcursion · · Score: 2

    Leave it to an African company to understand, and try to get it as right as they can.
    Living off the grid is not easy.
    In the tropics the sun shines hard. Solar charging is a no brainer.

    Fortunately I only live off the grid for a week or 3 when I'm doing interesting travel.

  6. The specs... by afxgrin · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't like their website design, I find it annoying to navigate. :P

    http://solaptop.com/en/products/laptops/

            System

                    CPU: Intel Atom D2500 1.86 GHz Duo Core, Intel 945GSE + ICH7M
                    HDD: Seagate 2.5” SATA HDD 320GB
                    RAM: Kingston 2-4GB DDRIII SDRAM (Options Available)
                    Graphics: 1080p HD Vide, Built-In Intel GMA3600 Graphics
                    Battery Operating Time: 8 - 10 hours

            I/O

                    Display: 13.3" LCD, WXGA, 1366 x 768
                    Camera: 3MP
                    Audio: Realtek ALC661 HD Audio, Built-in 2 Speakers | Internal mic + 1/8” input
                    3 USB2.0, Headphone jack, HDMI, LAN(10/100), Card reader (SD/MS/MMC)

            Wireless

                    Modem: 3G/4G World/multimode LTE
                    GPS: gpsOne Gen8A
                    WiFi: MIMO 802.11b/gn (2.4/5GHz)
                    Bluetooth: Integrated Digital Core BT4.0

  7. Save Frequently by cdxta · · Score: 5, Funny

    Every time a cloud goes over you're going to loose your work, or is your work in the cloud?

  8. Re:Believe it when I see it by TooTechy · · Score: 2

    All the images looked CGI to me. I could not see an actual product image there. I infer that the product is still vaporware.

    Anyone actually have a link to a real world image?

  9. device running *on* Ubuntu by wylf · · Score: 2

    Last time I checked, software (i.e. the OS) ran on the hardware, not the other way around.

    And if this thing is just a solar charger - admittedly a pretty cool one - where's the linux tie-in? My USB charger works with my phone (that runs on Android*, incidentally). Does that make it big Android news?

    * yes, I see what I did. wonder why...

  10. Errrr.... by sunking2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty sure that Ubuntu will run on the laptop. The laptop will run on the Sun.

    1. Re:Errrr.... by Neo-Rio-101 · · Score: 2

      ...and then the Sun will be bought out by Oracle.

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  11. Samsung NC215s by iamhassi · · Score: 4, Informative
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  12. PowerBook 1400 by martinX · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Apple's PowerBook 1400 had a removable book cover style lid so you could put in pretty pictures etc. A company called Keep It Simple Systems made a solar panel that slipped right in. (TidBITS article here). Here's a quote from MacFormat magazine describing it (source):

    The PowerCover is especially neat because it fits into the BookCover slot on PowerBook 1400s, so you can leave it on more or less permanently. This will extend the battery life by around 35% (the PowerCover is, after all, a bit smaller than the Mercury II). KISS claims you can expect its products to give you up to 20 years of free energy. An extreme example of these devices’ usefulness is that of Ralph Harvey, a research scientist who uses a solar charger on his PowerBook in the Antarctic where power’s clearly at a premium. [...]

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  13. Re:If it's real... by tftp · · Score: 2

    'scuse me for asking: why would you need a laptop in a post-apocalyptic world?

    Knowledge will be the most valuable asset after the collapse of the civilization. Do you know off the top of your head how to make powder? No, not the smokeless propellant - just the good old black powder? It's not entirely trivial; many a powder plant blew up before scientists and engineers figured out how to work with it in relative safety. Or take the initiating explosives, such as primers. There are about twenty formulations known to man today; some are obsolete, some are OK, some are top notch. Do you know how to make one? Without a primer you will be relegated to flint locks, if not to muskets with ignition from a cord.

    There will be a lot of technology left over after the collapse. Most of it will need repair. Who would readily remember how to disassemble, repair and put back together a certain pump? If you have a manual, you are golden. But the most valuable repair manual is the manual on repair of humans. Do you have medical ebooks in your collection? It just happens that I have a few broad references; not enough for brain surgery, but enough to deal with everyday injuries and diseases.

    But where would you store all those Libraries of Congress with all that valuable data, in such a way that you can carry it, and in such a way that you can access it easily? A laptop with a terabyte drive would do it nicely. A bicycle, outside of a direct survival situation, does not even compare. But in a survival situation nothing matters except what helps you to survive. It doesn't mean that canned food is useless if you are, at this very moment, shooting at your pursuers.

  14. Re:If it's real... by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    You're focusing on individual survival. No one individual has everything it'll take on their own. You're going to have to cooperate with other survivors. That means something of value to trade, an skills are of value.

    The life of a post-apoc engineer may consist of 'Give me a place to sleep and food for a few days, and I'll get that old well-pump working again' or 'Can I join your little community? I'm no good at farming, but I can loot a load of old solar panels and car batteries and get you electric light and piped clean water.' You offer your skills to maintain technology that makes life easier, in return for protection from wandering bandits, food and residence.

    With the collapse of technology, even improvised equipment is going to be valuable. Can you rip radiators from a building, paint them black, put them under glass and get the temperature up to near-boiling? You just gave a community back sterile, disease-free water. They will be grateful.