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Should the Next 'Doctor Who' Be a Woman?

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Jennifer Finney Boylan writes in the NYT that for those who did not get beaten up in high school, 'Doctor Who' is a beloved British sci-fi series about a character called the Doctor who is able to regenerate into a new body whenever a mortal would die or whenever an actor grows tired of the gig. The Doctor has been played by 11 different men since the show went on the air in 1963 and with Matt Smith, stepping down this Christmas, many fans had hoped that this time, a dozen cycles in, the Doctorship would finally go to a woman. 'Maybe it was the election of Barack Obama that made it seem, fleetingly, as if there were no more glass ceilings, for offices from president to pontiff,' writes Boylan. 'Whether the 45th president is a woman (Hillary Rodham Clinton?) or a Latino (Marco Rubio?), it still feels, on a good day, as if we've entered a time when there are fewer limits on what men and women can aspire to.' But unlike presidents or popes, we may not get that many more chances at a glass-shattering Doctor. According to long-held Doctor Who mythology, the character's 13th regeneration could be his last. 'As the producers think about whom they want to take on the role next, they should keep in mind the way people's hopes are lifted when they see someone breaking the glass ceiling, even when it's for something as seemingly trivial as a hero on a science-fiction program. Equal opportunity matters — in Doctor Who's universe as well as our own.'"

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  1. Really? Political correctness? by gelfling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not a vegan tranny black lesbian Muslim in a wheelchair?

    1. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's what they said about daleks and stairs. Didn't stop them.

    2. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Finally a worthy opponent for the Daleks!

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    3. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Doctor: "You know the definition of a vegan don't you? They're people too insensitive to hear a carrot citizen of Denigula VI scream."

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    4. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Tx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So true. I don't understand why this keeps coming up. Just because Who happens to have the regeneration plot device, which would make it possible for him to come back as a woman, doesn't really make the why of it any different than any other long-running series with a male lead. Should the next James Bond be a woman? I'm a big fan of sci-fi with female lead characters; Buffy, Lost Girl, the Underworld movies, Resident Evil. You do not need to screw around with a series with a male lead character if you want female leads.

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    5. Re:Really? Political correctness? by interval1066 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the next Dr. Who should be a woman, deffinately. With the usual hot female sidekick. Deffinately.

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    6. Re:Really? Political correctness? by 1s44c · · Score: 5, Funny

      The next James Bond should be Jessica Alba. Now that would breathe new life into a tired out francise.

      Leave Dr Who alone.

    7. Re:Really? Political correctness? by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Funny

      They wouldn't be able to do all the running involved...

      New tagline:

      "Lets Roll"

    8. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, what kind of sexist demands for Doctor Who to be a woman? Certainly not a single woman I've ever met. They want a charming sexy man, and who 'd blame them? :)
      But those same sexists would probably call that "sexism" too.

      Doctor Who is a man. I don't go demand that female roles be played by men either!

      The whole thing is fucking retarded, and a textbook example of what happens to a good cause, when a bunch of monkey-see-monkey-do passive-thinking morons go overboard with it.
      The women who originally started the equal right movement would probably die just to turn in their graves.

    9. Re:Really? Political correctness? by N1AK · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just because Who happens to have the regeneration plot device, which would make it possible for him to come back as a woman

      It also makes it possible for 'it' to come back as a man. The point some people are making is that there is no reason not to have 'it' come back as a woman. The character has been largely asexual and could remain so. Personally I think they've selected the next doctor well but I think it'd be nice if they cast one of the many capable actresses available at some point in the future.

      I think you're probably fully aware of the nonsense of your James Bond remark; largely because if you're able to use the internet you would realise that James is a man's name, a male character and human thus not able to change gender. That said, I personally would have no issue with it if they rebranded as "007: The next films not enough" and the next 007 was a woman; it'd be quite refreshing to see the bravado of James Bond portrayed by a woman and I think we're finally reaching the point where it wouldn't seem jarring.

    10. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mellon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't think Dr. Who as a female would make for some interesting stories? Are you dead inside? Political correctness is the last reason in the world why we'd want a female Doctor. We'd want a female Doctor because it would be interesting. Honestly, male Dr. Who has been done to death!

    11. Re:Really? Political correctness? by metrix007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Could you paste your post a few more times to make sure everyone see's it?

      Look, the character is male. He should remain male unless there is a convincing reason to make him female. Because it would be interesting is not reason enough, not when there are are still many interesting stories to tell with him as a male.

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    12. Re:Really? Political correctness? by JWW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      John Barroman is actually pitching for a spinoff show with his Captain Jack character traveling through time with River Song.

      I would much rather they create a spinoff with a Time Lady than change the Doctor into a woman.

      The biggest reason for this is that if they change the Doctor to a woman, the ratings will be big for an episode or two, but then since the whole premise of the show had been upended, ratings will crash and it'll get cancelled.

      I'd rather they try out a new show than mess with the concept of the original show.

    13. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      A female doctor would run like a girl.

    14. Re:Really? Political correctness? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The other Gallifreyans are all gone. If they wanted a female Timelord, they should have done a Romana spinoff years ago.

    15. Re:Really? Political correctness? by datavirtue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Having breasts does not make you interesting.

      [citation needed]

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    16. Re:Really? Political correctness? by niado · · Score: 5, Funny

      Having breasts does not make you interesting.

      ( ) - Strongly Agree
      ( ) - Agree
      ( ) - Disagree
      (*) - Strongly Disagree

    17. Re:Really? Political correctness? by niado · · Score: 5, Informative

      BS. Guys just do different types of/more exercise because that's the societal norm. If you asked a female to do the work every time you needed something carried or a jar opened you'd be a wimp too. Sure testosterone plays a role, but almost any woman can get strong if they eat and train right. And by strong I mean sincerely fuck up 99% of the male population. Why? Because most people don't exercise to their potential.

      This is very disingenuous. Of course many women could become stronger than the average man if they were involved in an Olympic-class workout/diet regimen, but even a very large, very strong woman will have difficulty matching a man's strength, if he's even doing casual strength-conditioning.

      Sexual dimorphism is not caused by "societal norms", it is caused by genetics and specifically testosterone.

    18. Re:Really? Political correctness? by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not a bad idea to bring in Susan, but I think people want The Doctor.

      Honestly, I've been watching him since the late 1970's as a male. After all that time, making him female just seems like a gimmick. While I don't think there is any in-universe reason he couldn't be a female, but there's been almost zero reason to believe it would ever happen.

      And what's worse, they'd probably have to do something like make it either traumatic or "super cool" for the Doctor. In either case, I could see that being annoying, story-wise. Given the tenure of current actors in the role, they'd spend half their time on the "I'm a female now" arc before moving on.

      I do think that they should somehow work in a female Time Lord, like they have in the past, and make her a lot more integral than Romana or the Rani were. The other females like River Song, or the Doctor's daughter might have Time Lord physiology, but they aren't Gallifreyans culturally and never lived in Time Lord society. I think they need a new, actual female Time Lord, but I'm not sure how that would work out.

      Susan is technically the best candidate (if she's still alive outside the Time War), but I think they'd benefit from introducing a new character.

    19. Re:Really? Political correctness? by agrounds · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The other Gallifreyans are all gone. If they wanted a female Timelord, they should have done a Romana spinoff years ago.

      The best part of a show about time travel is that there is nothing that is actually immutable. Doctor Who has rewritten plot lines in the past, and utterly ignored previous canon when it suits the writers.

      That said, bringing back Romana would be awesome. Preferably the Mary Tramm version in terms of character. The haughty brilliance she brought to the show was the perfect counterpoint to Tom Baker's goofiness. Our newer doctors really need that authority figure to contrast the manic screwdriver-waving stupidity we have gotten lately. Donna Noble was the closest we got to a proper companion like the original show, and her departure was noticeable in every aspect of the character interactions.

  2. WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is just absurd !!

    1. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is just absurd !!

      Not nearly as absurd as his archenemy being The Mistress.

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    2. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A joke is technically something intended to make you laugh. It is not necessarily factually accurate, or even representative of the beliefs and opinions of the teller.

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    3. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, see: when The Nurse and the Mistress get together, they show the audience how to get along. Giggity.

    4. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'd need to be careful. A female playing the Doctor would risk being objectified. Then it would be Doctor Whom.

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  3. Ever notice by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems there is a subset of people out there who just can never be happy unless they are going against the grain. There will be people out there who make a big deal about who the next Doctor is regardless of who gets it. Not everything has to be groundbreaking or new. Sometimes tried and trusted are the way to go.

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    1. Re:Ever notice by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sometimes tried and trusted are the way to go.

      From here:

      We learn how to act, and how to accept things, through our fiction, and we have a gigantic problem with women in authority. By creating a female Doctor, and then giving her interesting male companions and having them work together without falling mutually in love, having sex, or keeping her locked in the male gaze, we could begin to work through some of the issues our society has with women in authority.

      It may seem silly to pin these hopes on pop culture, but remember that it took Star Trek to bring us one of the first scripted kisses on television. A female Doctor wouldn't just be fun, it would be important. It could be a way to teach young men how to treat powerful women with respect, a lesson that is rarely discussed well, anywhere.

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    2. Re:Ever notice by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't accept the premise. We have lots of powerful women in our society. Not enough, granted, but the ones we do have don't seem to have trouble being taken seriously by the majority of people.

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    3. Re:Ever notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes indeed. Everything, and I mean everything must be co-opted to support the feminist cause or it has no right to exist.

    4. Re:Ever notice by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole point of Dr. Who (well, one of the points) is that the female assistants keep on showing him up...it's a showcase for smart, self-empowered women.

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    5. Re:Ever notice by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So how are men supposed to look up to capable, masculine role models? Tim "Tool Time" Taylor and his thousands of bumbling, idiot clones did massive cultural damage to men by teaching them the best thing they can do is nothing. Helping only harms or makes you look stupid.

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    6. Re:Ever notice by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sarah Jane Smith was very much a strong female role model, and solved several mysteries on her own. Most of the time The Doctor solved things before her during her era, it was because it either required some esoteric knowledge that you don't get from growing up on Earth, or because it required some technology from the TARDIS.

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    7. Re:Ever notice by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's a showcase for smart, self-empowered women.

      It's a common trope of portraying men as bumbling fools in need of a woman to steer them through life. Witness just about every sitcom and police procedural in existence. There would be much hell raised if a female doctor was constantly being upstaged by a male companion in the same manner.

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  4. No by davidbrit2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, because that means Samuel L. Jackson would be out of the running. (Admit it, you'd watch that.)

    1. Re:No by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Hand me my sonic screwdriver. It's the one that says bad motherfucker on it!"

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    2. Re:No by Vermonter · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Say 'exterminate' again, I dare you!"

    3. Re:No by Talderas · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm tired of these motherfucking daleks on my motherfucking ship.

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  5. Only a silly uneducated Yank would write this by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Funny
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  6. From people who don't watch the show... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that people who want to see the next Doctor be some sort of handicapped post-op lesbian hermaphrodite never watch the show but just want to push some sort of agenda to get some checkbox filled somewhere. They would never watch a single episode with their politically-corrected Doctor but that's not really the point.

  7. "13th regeneration" by barlevg · · Score: 3, Informative

    the character's 13th regeneration could be his last

    Okay, first, the article means his TWELFTH regeneration, his thirteenth INCARNATION. Secondly, it's already canon that doctors can regenerate far more than twelve times.

  8. Re:and how do you resolve the paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It has already been established in canon that they can.

    "See that snake. The mark of The Corsair. Fantastic bloke. He had that snake as a tattoo in every regeneration. Didn't feel like himself unless he had that tattoo. Or herself a couple of times. Oo hoo! She was a bad girl!"

  9. Re:Time Lord by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Funny

    The clue is in the title. Who ever heard of a "Time Lady"?!

    Um, everyone who ever watched season 16?

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  10. Or maybe.... by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So somehow changing an indubitably male character into a woman is a 'victory' for women?

    Perhaps we could just work on creating an interesting, engaging, successful female character and celebrate her? Or celebrate one of the many strong female characters already present in media?

    Perhaps there's a moral in here for the whole feminist movement.

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  11. How about a new SF series then? by ggraham412 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Surely a science fiction concept with a female lead can be developed outside of the current Dr. Who franchise. Or, a spin-off series featuring a female timelord can be developed in parallel, like Star Trek did with Voyager. The can have separate adventures and then guest star from time to time on each others' shows. Seems like you get more audience that way. Why is there a need to take an established character and turn it into something completely different?

    Dr. Who will always be Tom Baker in my imagination anyway.

  12. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also it has no explosions caused by bullets hitting a car tire, no bodybuilders screaming slogans only three words long yet still incomprehensable, no storylines designed to last for 20 seasons only to be cancelled after the second season, nobody trying to be "cool" or "edgy" or "bad-ass". Quite frankly, it's a breath of fresh air amongst so many sci-fi series desperately trying to appease pubescent boys.

    I thought Dr. Who would be tacky/cheesy/lame as well until I actually saw a whole episode, now I'm hooked.

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  13. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    garbage

    It seems you are not British, so perhaps you see it differently to us. A lot of the Russell T. Davies stuff was cheesy crap, but Moffat's episodes are good. Many of them are quite dark and produce a real sense of drama.

    It works both ways of course. A lot of US shows that people rave about seem pretty bad to us too. Many of the good ones have British actors in the major roles.

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  14. Re:Time Lord by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Romana, played by the rather lovely Lala Ward.

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  15. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by The+Pirou · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It takes different strokes. Possibly you don't appreciate the story because you're not familiar with older plot lines from 30 years ago that are quietly addressed. Possibly you've never read any of the well written books from that time either. Possibly you like Mango Ice cream or Kardashian's when everyone else is going 'yuck.' It's television. If you don't get it, don't hurt your brain trying to figure it out. Some people simply have different tastes, and your perception of lame is someone else's uber. It's perfectly reasonable to hate the old black and white shows, specific Doctors, or the entirety of the show, but it's not a mathematical proof that can be explained to you in hopes that one day you'll understand (especially since you've already walked into the conversation with the idea that Dr. Who blows monkey chunks).

    My Uncle has been taping the show since it's inception, and he owns every book that came out prior to 1992. He's hated every single Doctor since 8, and calls the current show all manner of names. He'd agree with you that everything currently playing is garbage, but then again, he thinks the only good think on TV these days is H20.

  16. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In spite of its legendarily low budget in... well, just about all of it prior to the Christopher Ecclestone series, it's been some groundbreaking science fiction. Oh it's had its dud episodes, you might need to suspend disbelief more than you would for most other TV shows, and the special effects should be taken as a symbolic gesture rather than actually looking like something, but it does actually do some pretty interesting stuff.

    That said, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Culturally, the show is very British, so Americans don't tend to "get" it as much as the British or Australians.

  17. Oh, shut up. by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jennifer Finney Boylan writes in the NYT that for those who did not get beaten up in high school...

    Whining about diversity and coming out with the stereotyping right out of the gate(and yes, it's a quote from TFA, I did check). Maybe she thought that was cute?

    I had a nice rant with lots of big words about diversity not about messing with established characters and missing the point and all that, but you know what? Screw it.

    Why should we bloody-nosed, inhaler puffing masses give a fuck what this imbecile has to say?

  18. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really depends on what you've seen. A show that's spanned half a century has some good ones and some bad ones.

    If you want to check out the best of what the new series can offer, try The Girl in the Fireplace, or Blink.

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  19. One word... by bazmail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. why? If gender doesn't matter any more why are we fixating on it here?

  20. No, it has already been done by isj · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Doctor should never be a woman. We have seen how that turns out in the spoof "Doctor Who and the Curse of Fatal Death", where the female Doctor notices the sonic screwdriver has "three settings".
    Links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_and_the_Curse_of_Fatal_Death
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18DKN27IZQ

  21. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by Warma · · Score: 3, Interesting

    While I try to refrain from insulting entertainment by insinuating that it's aimed at pubescent boys, and while this might make me seem one in your eyes, I feel that Dr. Who actually is cheesy and lame.

    I had avoided the show for various vague reasons until recently, when a friend of mine forced me to watch the first episodes of the most recent series to change my mind. While the writing was rather interesting and the retro visuals had enough charm to make me understand why someone might like it, there are some serious problems with the show.

    First, I was annoyed that The Doctor is portrayed as somewhat all-powerful for no reason at all. He can threaten his enemies and make appeals with no credentials whatsoever. I kind of understand that scenes where he says that "the Earth is protected" by him are perhaps awe-inspiring to a 50's born nerd who has watched all of the previous 200 episodes, but I really don't get why the aliens he is currently facing won't just incinerate him on the spot. To an outside observer, it simply seems like a lame would-be superhero saving the day by just boasting about it. This is actually repeated twice during the first three episodes.

    Secondly, while all of the previous posters are talking about strong female leads, I was left with pretty mixed feelings about this character in the most recent show. Of course she is shown as intelligent and resourceful, but at the same time, she is shown to be a slave to his charms, eloping the very day before her wedding. The convenience of the former is rather astounding, as the series of course contains time travel and implies that the female lead can experience a whole new life, whisked away to adventure by an exciting man, and still return to her life with the random beta (or absence of it, depending on the attitude of the scriptwriters), like nothing had happened.

    Is this really what being a strong woman is about?

  22. What about the woman sidekick? by Latent+Heat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    C'mon people, Dr. Who has always had a female sidekick, a very youthful and "pneumatic" (borrowing a term from Huxley) female sidekick, or somehow acquires such a woman companion in the course of the particular adventure or story arc. One such companion was a "cave woman" dressed in (poorly draped, yes!) skins; another was a flight attendant from an airliner that got caught up in a time warp.

    These sidekicks are hot by the standards of women on British TV where the extremes in cosmetic dentistry, dermatology, and plastic surgery are not followed as rigorously as in Hollywood.

    So would the female Dr. Who have a beefcake dude sidekick? Would the female Dr. Who be a babe or perhaps a mature woman in the tradition of Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, or Amanda Richardson? Or maybe a West Indian babe with a delicious regional accent as the police captain who thinks Holmes is a dangerous vigilante and medler into police business as in that Sherlock Holmes reboot (and gosh no, not the Robert Downey Jr. one).

    1. Re:What about the woman sidekick? by Nethead · · Score: 3, Informative

      The 10th Doctor had a beefcake sidekick, Capt. Jack Harkness.

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