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Should the Next 'Doctor Who' Be a Woman?

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Jennifer Finney Boylan writes in the NYT that for those who did not get beaten up in high school, 'Doctor Who' is a beloved British sci-fi series about a character called the Doctor who is able to regenerate into a new body whenever a mortal would die or whenever an actor grows tired of the gig. The Doctor has been played by 11 different men since the show went on the air in 1963 and with Matt Smith, stepping down this Christmas, many fans had hoped that this time, a dozen cycles in, the Doctorship would finally go to a woman. 'Maybe it was the election of Barack Obama that made it seem, fleetingly, as if there were no more glass ceilings, for offices from president to pontiff,' writes Boylan. 'Whether the 45th president is a woman (Hillary Rodham Clinton?) or a Latino (Marco Rubio?), it still feels, on a good day, as if we've entered a time when there are fewer limits on what men and women can aspire to.' But unlike presidents or popes, we may not get that many more chances at a glass-shattering Doctor. According to long-held Doctor Who mythology, the character's 13th regeneration could be his last. 'As the producers think about whom they want to take on the role next, they should keep in mind the way people's hopes are lifted when they see someone breaking the glass ceiling, even when it's for something as seemingly trivial as a hero on a science-fiction program. Equal opportunity matters — in Doctor Who's universe as well as our own.'"

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  1. Really? Political correctness? by gelfling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not a vegan tranny black lesbian Muslim in a wheelchair?

    1. Re:Really? Political correctness? by JosKarith · · Score: 2, Funny

      They wouldn't be able to do all the running involved...

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    2. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That's what they said about daleks and stairs. Didn't stop them.

    3. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mwvdlee · · Score: 3, Funny

      Finally a worthy opponent for the Daleks!

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    4. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The Doctor: "You know the definition of a vegan don't you? They're people too insensitive to hear a carrot citizen of Denigula VI scream."

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    5. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Tx · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So true. I don't understand why this keeps coming up. Just because Who happens to have the regeneration plot device, which would make it possible for him to come back as a woman, doesn't really make the why of it any different than any other long-running series with a male lead. Should the next James Bond be a woman? I'm a big fan of sci-fi with female lead characters; Buffy, Lost Girl, the Underworld movies, Resident Evil. You do not need to screw around with a series with a male lead character if you want female leads.

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    6. Re:Really? Political correctness? by interval1066 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think the next Dr. Who should be a woman, deffinately. With the usual hot female sidekick. Deffinately.

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    7. Re:Really? Political correctness? by 1s44c · · Score: 5, Funny

      The next James Bond should be Jessica Alba. Now that would breathe new life into a tired out francise.

      Leave Dr Who alone.

    8. Re:Really? Political correctness? by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 2

      Exactly! No one had ever posed the question before that should the doctor regenerate as a female. If you want a strong female lead character then write a strong female lead character. Stop with this fucking bull shit.

    9. Re:Really? Political correctness? by bobstreo · · Score: 4, Funny

      They wouldn't be able to do all the running involved...

      New tagline:

      "Lets Roll"

    10. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also, what kind of sexist demands for Doctor Who to be a woman? Certainly not a single woman I've ever met. They want a charming sexy man, and who 'd blame them? :)
      But those same sexists would probably call that "sexism" too.

      Doctor Who is a man. I don't go demand that female roles be played by men either!

      The whole thing is fucking retarded, and a textbook example of what happens to a good cause, when a bunch of monkey-see-monkey-do passive-thinking morons go overboard with it.
      The women who originally started the equal right movement would probably die just to turn in their graves.

    11. Re:Really? Political correctness? by N1AK · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Just because Who happens to have the regeneration plot device, which would make it possible for him to come back as a woman

      It also makes it possible for 'it' to come back as a man. The point some people are making is that there is no reason not to have 'it' come back as a woman. The character has been largely asexual and could remain so. Personally I think they've selected the next doctor well but I think it'd be nice if they cast one of the many capable actresses available at some point in the future.

      I think you're probably fully aware of the nonsense of your James Bond remark; largely because if you're able to use the internet you would realise that James is a man's name, a male character and human thus not able to change gender. That said, I personally would have no issue with it if they rebranded as "007: The next films not enough" and the next 007 was a woman; it'd be quite refreshing to see the bravado of James Bond portrayed by a woman and I think we're finally reaching the point where it wouldn't seem jarring.

    12. Re:Really? Political correctness? by hey! · · Score: 2

      If you're concerned about political correctness making it's way onto Doctor Who, that tardis has long since sailed. It's not only gay-friendly to a fault, it's eco-friendly and anti-militarist. UNIT doesn't count -- our brave boys in berets represent a military reduced to its proper scope: gamely attempting to repulse cheesy alien invaders while someone with more brains figures out what to do about them.

      In Dr. Who the military isn't some kind of awesome war machine, it's more like occupational therapy for the incurably dunderheaded.

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    13. Re:Really? Political correctness? by gizmo2199 · · Score: 2

      I RTFA.

      "Bachiller polled in 18th place when she ran for a seat with the People’s Party (PP) in the last municipal elections. She replaced another councillor, Jesus Garcia Galvan, who had to resign his seat a month ago on account of charges of bribery and malfeasance in office."

      So really her nomination had more to do with the scandals of another Councillor, than with PC.

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    14. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mellon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You don't think Dr. Who as a female would make for some interesting stories? Are you dead inside? Political correctness is the last reason in the world why we'd want a female Doctor. We'd want a female Doctor because it would be interesting. Honestly, male Dr. Who has been done to death!

    15. Re:Really? Political correctness? by pla · · Score: 2

      Wow. I just love the way you encapsulated so much stereotyping and prejudice into one comment!

      Let's play the "can you spot the differences?" game:

      Vegan: The (11th) Doctor likes fish fingers and custard.
      Tranny: Unless they camp it up, this could already hold true and we wouldn't know.
      Furry: He already stole a TARDIS so he could hang out with evolved apes from Earth - Pretty damned close conceptually, minus the need for suits.
      Black: Melody already did that one. Next.
      Lesbian: Hello, Jack Harkness? Though actually - Consider me good with this one. Can she get both Rose and Amy back as her companions?
      Sense of Humor: Not yours.
      Wheelchair: Not really conducive to action scenes, cheesy floating Daleks aside.
      Retarded: The doctor solves problems largely with his mind (and a health dose of deus ex, but let's not go there). That would work sooooo well!
      Muslim: The Doctor has seen into the vortex, met the White Guardian and the Black Guardian, and fought the Devil in the pit. I suspect his religious beliefs, if any, go a bit beyond petty human lunar goddesses.

      So really, as you can (or rather you can't) see, the suggested change just offers an obvious spectrum of possible tweaks that would radically change the core character of The Doctor. If people hated the core character, that might make sense. Give that the show has run for 50 years this November and its viewers like the main character? Don't screw with what works.

    16. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mellon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You don't think Dr. Who as a female would make for some interesting stories? Are you dead inside? Political correctness is the last reason in the world why we'd want a female Doctor. We'd want a female Doctor because it would be interesting. Honestly, male Dr. Who has been done to death!

    17. Re:Really? Political correctness? by metrix007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Could you paste your post a few more times to make sure everyone see's it?

      Look, the character is male. He should remain male unless there is a convincing reason to make him female. Because it would be interesting is not reason enough, not when there are are still many interesting stories to tell with him as a male.

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    18. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Richy_T · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Possibly. But is there any particular reason it has to be the same Gallifreyan? Do you really want to break what appears to be continuity and almost certainly alienate a large proportion of the viewers just for that? (Personally it wouldn't bother me but it doesn't bother me that it's not either and I'd rather have a Doctor on the screen than than a PC Doctor cancelled. It took long enough for it to come back last time.)

    19. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Richy_T · · Score: 2

      It would seem jarring because this weird contemporary idea that women can match men in a one-on-one physical confrontation is simply bullshit for all but a tiny section of women (of which a female Bond could possibly be a member. But not any of the actresses they'd cast for her) vs a relatively small section of men (so all Bond's enemies would have to be wimps basically).

    20. Re:Really? Political correctness? by JWW · · Score: 3, Interesting

      John Barroman is actually pitching for a spinoff show with his Captain Jack character traveling through time with River Song.

      I would much rather they create a spinoff with a Time Lady than change the Doctor into a woman.

      The biggest reason for this is that if they change the Doctor to a woman, the ratings will be big for an episode or two, but then since the whole premise of the show had been upended, ratings will crash and it'll get cancelled.

      I'd rather they try out a new show than mess with the concept of the original show.

    21. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      A female doctor would run like a girl.

    22. Re:Really? Political correctness? by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The other Gallifreyans are all gone. If they wanted a female Timelord, they should have done a Romana spinoff years ago.

    23. Re:Really? Political correctness? by nosfucious · · Score: 2, Funny

      Exactly,

      It's a Doctor, not a Nurse.

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    24. Re:Really? Political correctness? by arth1 · · Score: 2

      Dr. Who coming back as a male twelve bloody times when he has no control over his new form is just loaded dice. Can you explain to me why Dr. Who as a female doesn't make sense?

      You gave the reason yourself. While he may not have control, there clearly is control. He hasn't come back as a banana either, nor black, nor with four arms. After as many as 11 iterations, it would be foolish to think that the dice being loaded isn't canon.

      There are lots of female actors who would be fantastic as the Doctor.

      Then write a story for an alternate universe, but leave this one alone. Instead of killing the doctor we know and love to get a female doctor, just get a female doctor.

    25. Re:Really? Political correctness? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

      And if I say that the wheelchair is actually a self-powered cold-fusion wheelchair?

      Sorry, Davros already used that one.

    26. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 2

      Well by canon only 3-4 Gallifreyans are sort of left... The Doctor's old nemesis is supposed to have died... again. His wife/amy pond's daughter, ie River Song, is supposed to be dead, but did regenerate at least twice. He does have a cloned daughter who we saw a couple years ago and dissapeared. Though she would have to be reintroduced after all this time (I was hoping for a spin off then).

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    27. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Mr.+Slippery · · Score: 2, Informative

      Possibly. But is there any particular reason it has to be the same Gallifreyan?

      Yes. The same reason every Superman comic is about the same Kryptonian: he's the main character of the story.

      All the instances of regeneration we've seen preserve gender. Not just the Doctor -- the Master and K'anpo Rimpoche stay male, while Romana, River Song, and Jenny stay female.

      Yes, Romana's regeneration doesn't fit 100% with how the other instances of regeneration occur. and yes, one transgender Time Lord /Lady, the Corsair, is mentioned in one episode, but given the gender-preserving quality of all the regenerations we see it doesn't seem credible that regeneration is the source of that person's transgender status.

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    28. Re:Really? Political correctness? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      We never saw Susan die on-screen. I'd have thought that an obvious way of handing it over would be for the TARDIS to take the dying Doctor to find her, and for him to hand over the TARDIS to her. Then you'd get a female lead character, without changing any of the mythology. You'd need some reason why Susan was off Galifrey, but the last time we saw her she was on Earth in 2150 (and while we didn't see her use the Chameleon Arch on screen, there's no reason why she couldn't have done, or constructed something similar from all of the post-invasion Dalek technology left lying around), so that's probably not too hard...

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    29. Re:Really? Political correctness? by agrounds · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, if the last few seasons are any indication, running is no longer required. Neither is a plot, creativity, or fun 4-episode arcs. Under Moffat's tenure, the only requirement is waving around a sonic screwdriver like it's a magic wand.

      Under these strenuous conditions, the vegan tranny black lesbian Muslim in a wheelchair would be more than sufficient.

      Hell, the good Doctor could be replaced by a muppet with the screwdriver firmly velcro'd to its hand with no noticeable impact to the show. Come to think of it, this describes Matt Smith's run perfectly.

    30. Re:Really? Political correctness? by datavirtue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Having breasts does not make you interesting.

      [citation needed]

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    31. Re:Really? Political correctness? by niado · · Score: 5, Funny

      Having breasts does not make you interesting.

      ( ) - Strongly Agree
      ( ) - Agree
      ( ) - Disagree
      (*) - Strongly Disagree

    32. Re:Really? Political correctness? by niado · · Score: 5, Informative

      BS. Guys just do different types of/more exercise because that's the societal norm. If you asked a female to do the work every time you needed something carried or a jar opened you'd be a wimp too. Sure testosterone plays a role, but almost any woman can get strong if they eat and train right. And by strong I mean sincerely fuck up 99% of the male population. Why? Because most people don't exercise to their potential.

      This is very disingenuous. Of course many women could become stronger than the average man if they were involved in an Olympic-class workout/diet regimen, but even a very large, very strong woman will have difficulty matching a man's strength, if he's even doing casual strength-conditioning.

      Sexual dimorphism is not caused by "societal norms", it is caused by genetics and specifically testosterone.

    33. Re:Really? Political correctness? by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It's not a bad idea to bring in Susan, but I think people want The Doctor.

      Honestly, I've been watching him since the late 1970's as a male. After all that time, making him female just seems like a gimmick. While I don't think there is any in-universe reason he couldn't be a female, but there's been almost zero reason to believe it would ever happen.

      And what's worse, they'd probably have to do something like make it either traumatic or "super cool" for the Doctor. In either case, I could see that being annoying, story-wise. Given the tenure of current actors in the role, they'd spend half their time on the "I'm a female now" arc before moving on.

      I do think that they should somehow work in a female Time Lord, like they have in the past, and make her a lot more integral than Romana or the Rani were. The other females like River Song, or the Doctor's daughter might have Time Lord physiology, but they aren't Gallifreyans culturally and never lived in Time Lord society. I think they need a new, actual female Time Lord, but I'm not sure how that would work out.

      Susan is technically the best candidate (if she's still alive outside the Time War), but I think they'd benefit from introducing a new character.

    34. Re:Really? Political correctness? by agrounds · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The other Gallifreyans are all gone. If they wanted a female Timelord, they should have done a Romana spinoff years ago.

      The best part of a show about time travel is that there is nothing that is actually immutable. Doctor Who has rewritten plot lines in the past, and utterly ignored previous canon when it suits the writers.

      That said, bringing back Romana would be awesome. Preferably the Mary Tramm version in terms of character. The haughty brilliance she brought to the show was the perfect counterpoint to Tom Baker's goofiness. Our newer doctors really need that authority figure to contrast the manic screwdriver-waving stupidity we have gotten lately. Donna Noble was the closest we got to a proper companion like the original show, and her departure was noticeable in every aspect of the character interactions.

    35. Re:Really? Political correctness? by immaterial · · Score: 2

      The 11th doctor, upon feeling his hair after regeneration, thinks for a moment that he might be a woman. Clearly it is possible, then.

    36. Re:Really? Political correctness? by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      With all due respect, "by canon" seems like a fantastically flimsy defence for anything Who. It only takes one paragraph of script preamble to decide that there's been a million of them trapped in a pocket dimension or outside of the universe, or to invent a one-use resurrection technology.

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    37. Re:Really? Political correctness? by PhxBlue · · Score: 2

      Dr. Who has been done to death!

      And death, and death, and death, and death, and ...

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    38. Re:Really? Political correctness? by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      What does the cannon have to say about time lords passing regenerations to eachother?

      We saw River Song do this, to which the Doctor remarked "You didn't have to do that", and indicated that she gave up all of her remaining regenerations. My circle of friends has been speculating that this was done to set him up to go past 13, using the regenerations she gave him.... which may also setup a situation where they can switch him to a female and create new cannon, if this is a new situation.

      Admittedly, I am no expert on The Doctor and only ever watched a handful of mostly Tom Baker episodes as a kid prior to the new series.... but it seems like it would open up possibilities.

      OTOTH does the cannon actually forbid it? Just because its never been seen before doesn't mean it can't happen, just means its potentially rare or requiring of some new element....which they seem to have already set up.

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    39. Re:Really? Political correctness? by mellon · · Score: 2

      "Political correctness" is generally a word that's used to dismiss what someone else wants as nonsense. Whatever TFA may be saying, the fact is that there's a lot of interest in a female Doctor online, and it's not out of political correctness. It's because people think it would be cool, for actually a wide variety of reasons. My personal reason is that I think it would spin off good stories and allow the writers to subvert some Whovian tropes in really fun ways.

  2. WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    That is just absurd !!

    1. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That is just absurd !!

      Not nearly as absurd as his archenemy being The Mistress.

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    2. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      A joke is technically something intended to make you laugh. It is not necessarily factually accurate, or even representative of the beliefs and opinions of the teller.

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    3. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, see: when The Nurse and the Mistress get together, they show the audience how to get along. Giggity.

    4. Re:WHAT AND CALL IT NURSE WHO ?? by FooAtWFU · · Score: 5, Funny

      They'd need to be careful. A female playing the Doctor would risk being objectified. Then it would be Doctor Whom.

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  3. Ever notice by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It seems there is a subset of people out there who just can never be happy unless they are going against the grain. There will be people out there who make a big deal about who the next Doctor is regardless of who gets it. Not everything has to be groundbreaking or new. Sometimes tried and trusted are the way to go.

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    1. Re:Ever notice by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sometimes tried and trusted are the way to go.

      From here:

      We learn how to act, and how to accept things, through our fiction, and we have a gigantic problem with women in authority. By creating a female Doctor, and then giving her interesting male companions and having them work together without falling mutually in love, having sex, or keeping her locked in the male gaze, we could begin to work through some of the issues our society has with women in authority.

      It may seem silly to pin these hopes on pop culture, but remember that it took Star Trek to bring us one of the first scripted kisses on television. A female Doctor wouldn't just be fun, it would be important. It could be a way to teach young men how to treat powerful women with respect, a lesson that is rarely discussed well, anywhere.

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    2. Re:Ever notice by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It was bad enough with Russel T. Davies ramming it down our throats.

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    3. Re:Ever notice by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't accept the premise. We have lots of powerful women in our society. Not enough, granted, but the ones we do have don't seem to have trouble being taken seriously by the majority of people.

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    4. Re:Ever notice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Yes indeed. Everything, and I mean everything must be co-opted to support the feminist cause or it has no right to exist.

    5. Re:Ever notice by Joce640k · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The whole point of Dr. Who (well, one of the points) is that the female assistants keep on showing him up...it's a showcase for smart, self-empowered women.

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    6. Re:Ever notice by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      but remember that it took Star Trek to bring us one of the first scripted interracial kisses on television.

      Fixed. Silly cow.

      It could be a way to teach young men how to treat powerful women with respect, a lesson that is rarely discussed well, anywhere.

      Um, how about respecting all women? Like the strong female human characters who've been the Doctor's companions since 2005 (actually since 1987, and prior to that as well if you ignore Mel)?

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    7. Re:Ever notice by oconnorcjo · · Score: 2

      I would simply argue that it would hurt the show. Male fictional characters should stay male. If you want a show about a strong female- start a NEW show about a strong female character. I don't want the show addressing:
      -The whole idea of a man trapped inside a woman's body.
      -Is the new doctor attracted to men or women?

      Please let the show just be cheap sci-fi and not about social re-engineering.

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    8. Re:Ever notice by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

      We learn how to act, and how to accept things, through our fiction

      That rather over-emphasizes the importance of fiction. I learned how to act, and how to accept things, from my parents and peers -- you know, the REAL WORLD. Most people do.

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    9. Re:Ever notice by AxemRed · · Score: 2

      Not everything has to be "important" or has to teach people something. And that goes double for teaching them something specific. If we're going to have a female Doctor specifically for the purpose of "teaching," why not have a black or an Indian or a middle eastern Doctor? Or we could teach people about other social issues of the day... drugs, poverty, etc. Or maybe the Doctor could come out of the closet?

      People watch Doctor Who primarily for entertainment. When you start forcing changes, it feels forced and takes away from that entertainment value. The story is never going to work out right when you say "we need to do ___ for political/social/whatever reasons, now let's write the story around it."

    10. Re:Ever notice by oh_my_080980980 · · Score: 2

      Which society would that be? American or British? Britain has had many Queens ruling the country and a female Prime Minister, whereas the United States has not had one female President. Doctor Who is a BRITISH TV show and it's cultural identity is British not American.

      You got a problem with American TV, write to the networks. Stop badgering a British icon.

    11. Re:Ever notice by 1s44c · · Score: 2

      I remember some of the old assistants being far from helpless. What about Ace who used to blow things up? And Leela who always had a knife to stab people with?

    12. Re:Ever notice by fermion · · Score: 2

      You every notice how there is a subset that get upset when anyone suggests that we might go against the grain? These are the folks who got upset when we put in personal computers, and they could no longer control our lives by controlling the mainframes. These are the people who hated GPS on the phone because they could no longer charge us $200 for map updates. Certainly a women doctor may not matter one way or the other, but complaining that we are discussing it is like complaining that we are discussing whether steam power is a good idea.

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    13. Re:Ever notice by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So how are men supposed to look up to capable, masculine role models? Tim "Tool Time" Taylor and his thousands of bumbling, idiot clones did massive cultural damage to men by teaching them the best thing they can do is nothing. Helping only harms or makes you look stupid.

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    14. Re:Ever notice by TheRaven64 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sarah Jane Smith was very much a strong female role model, and solved several mysteries on her own. Most of the time The Doctor solved things before her during her era, it was because it either required some esoteric knowledge that you don't get from growing up on Earth, or because it required some technology from the TARDIS.

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    15. Re:Ever notice by wiredlogic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's a showcase for smart, self-empowered women.

      It's a common trope of portraying men as bumbling fools in need of a woman to steer them through life. Witness just about every sitcom and police procedural in existence. There would be much hell raised if a female doctor was constantly being upstaged by a male companion in the same manner.

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  4. No by davidbrit2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    No, because that means Samuel L. Jackson would be out of the running. (Admit it, you'd watch that.)

    1. Re:No by oodaloop · · Score: 5, Funny

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    2. Re:No by Vermonter · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Say 'exterminate' again, I dare you!"

    3. Re:No by TWiTfan · · Score: 2

      Neither Samuel L. Jackson nor Chuck Norris could ever be the Doctor. No one would buy the series lasting beyond the one or two episodes needed for them to kick the shit out of every conceivable bad guy in the universe.

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    4. Re:No by Talderas · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'm tired of these motherfucking daleks on my motherfucking ship.

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  5. Only a silly uneducated Yank would write this by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 5, Funny
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  6. Why does anyone like this show? by Karmashock · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It seems awful to me. The writing is bad. The characters are bad. The plots are bad. The props/special effects are bad.

    Is it something we Ironically like because its so bad or does it have good aspects I've over looked?

    Don't get me wrong. I love science fiction. But this seems like garbage.

    Anyone have an idea as to what I'm missing here?

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    1. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also it has no explosions caused by bullets hitting a car tire, no bodybuilders screaming slogans only three words long yet still incomprehensable, no storylines designed to last for 20 seasons only to be cancelled after the second season, nobody trying to be "cool" or "edgy" or "bad-ass". Quite frankly, it's a breath of fresh air amongst so many sci-fi series desperately trying to appease pubescent boys.

      I thought Dr. Who would be tacky/cheesy/lame as well until I actually saw a whole episode, now I'm hooked.

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    2. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      garbage

      It seems you are not British, so perhaps you see it differently to us. A lot of the Russell T. Davies stuff was cheesy crap, but Moffat's episodes are good. Many of them are quite dark and produce a real sense of drama.

      It works both ways of course. A lot of US shows that people rave about seem pretty bad to us too. Many of the good ones have British actors in the major roles.

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    3. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by The+Pirou · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It takes different strokes. Possibly you don't appreciate the story because you're not familiar with older plot lines from 30 years ago that are quietly addressed. Possibly you've never read any of the well written books from that time either. Possibly you like Mango Ice cream or Kardashian's when everyone else is going 'yuck.' It's television. If you don't get it, don't hurt your brain trying to figure it out. Some people simply have different tastes, and your perception of lame is someone else's uber. It's perfectly reasonable to hate the old black and white shows, specific Doctors, or the entirety of the show, but it's not a mathematical proof that can be explained to you in hopes that one day you'll understand (especially since you've already walked into the conversation with the idea that Dr. Who blows monkey chunks).

      My Uncle has been taping the show since it's inception, and he owns every book that came out prior to 1992. He's hated every single Doctor since 8, and calls the current show all manner of names. He'd agree with you that everything currently playing is garbage, but then again, he thinks the only good think on TV these days is H20.

    4. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In spite of its legendarily low budget in... well, just about all of it prior to the Christopher Ecclestone series, it's been some groundbreaking science fiction. Oh it's had its dud episodes, you might need to suspend disbelief more than you would for most other TV shows, and the special effects should be taken as a symbolic gesture rather than actually looking like something, but it does actually do some pretty interesting stuff.

      That said, it's not everyone's cup of tea. Culturally, the show is very British, so Americans don't tend to "get" it as much as the British or Australians.

    5. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by LordLucless · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Really depends on what you've seen. A show that's spanned half a century has some good ones and some bad ones.

      If you want to check out the best of what the new series can offer, try The Girl in the Fireplace, or Blink.

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    6. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by SirGarlon · · Score: 2

      Nostalgia. Try a couple of the Tom Baker episodes from the 1970s: say The Talons of Weng-Chiang, The Ark in Space, or Genesis of the Daleks. If you don't like those, then Doctor Who is probably just not for you. (I cannot recommend anything from the more recent seasons because I haven't gone out of my way to find them in the US.)

      If you are looking for great production values and special effects, the Doctor Who is definitely not for you. It's always been campy, yet cerebral. Much like classic Star Trek, the merit lies in colorful characters and intelligent themes.

      Even in the good old days, there were bad scripts mixed in with the good. That's going to happen in a series that runs for 33 years.

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    7. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by dbIII · · Score: 2

      Most of the stuff written by Douglas Adams and played by Tom Baker (among other highlights with other writers and actors) made people think it's worth it for the rest that has a few elements inherited from earlier bits of Dr Who. "Brain of Morbius" and "City of Death" are two stories that bring to mind the quote that great artists steal.
      The series has been going on for so long that it has jumped the shark a dozen times but then got back on the bike and recovered to do something well worth watching again for a while until the next shark jump. There's plenty of good stuff along with the bad.

    8. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by Warma · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While I try to refrain from insulting entertainment by insinuating that it's aimed at pubescent boys, and while this might make me seem one in your eyes, I feel that Dr. Who actually is cheesy and lame.

      I had avoided the show for various vague reasons until recently, when a friend of mine forced me to watch the first episodes of the most recent series to change my mind. While the writing was rather interesting and the retro visuals had enough charm to make me understand why someone might like it, there are some serious problems with the show.

      First, I was annoyed that The Doctor is portrayed as somewhat all-powerful for no reason at all. He can threaten his enemies and make appeals with no credentials whatsoever. I kind of understand that scenes where he says that "the Earth is protected" by him are perhaps awe-inspiring to a 50's born nerd who has watched all of the previous 200 episodes, but I really don't get why the aliens he is currently facing won't just incinerate him on the spot. To an outside observer, it simply seems like a lame would-be superhero saving the day by just boasting about it. This is actually repeated twice during the first three episodes.

      Secondly, while all of the previous posters are talking about strong female leads, I was left with pretty mixed feelings about this character in the most recent show. Of course she is shown as intelligent and resourceful, but at the same time, she is shown to be a slave to his charms, eloping the very day before her wedding. The convenience of the former is rather astounding, as the series of course contains time travel and implies that the female lead can experience a whole new life, whisked away to adventure by an exciting man, and still return to her life with the random beta (or absence of it, depending on the attitude of the scriptwriters), like nothing had happened.

      Is this really what being a strong woman is about?

    9. Re:Why does anyone like this show? by nedlohs · · Score: 2

      Oh please. Blink is as well written as anything written for a weekly TV show. Which is amazing since the lead is a female and Moffat can't write females (which happens to be the best reason for not having a female doctor).

      Yes there are also terrible episodes.

  7. No, just no. by Rantank · · Score: 2

    If you want a sci-fi story with a strong female protagonist, then feel free to write one. Leave the doctor alone. He is a he, has been a he, and should remain a he. He's had complex relationships that would be all too complicated and distracting to bring up and try to weave into a "she". And this isn't that kind of story. It's not meant to be going into social situations and analysing them. It's sonic screwdrivers, weeping angels, tardis and interesting companions. Go away with your politically correct nonsense.

  8. From people who don't watch the show... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that people who want to see the next Doctor be some sort of handicapped post-op lesbian hermaphrodite never watch the show but just want to push some sort of agenda to get some checkbox filled somewhere. They would never watch a single episode with their politically-corrected Doctor but that's not really the point.

  9. "13th regeneration" by barlevg · · Score: 3, Informative

    the character's 13th regeneration could be his last

    Okay, first, the article means his TWELFTH regeneration, his thirteenth INCARNATION. Secondly, it's already canon that doctors can regenerate far more than twelve times.

  10. Re:and how do you resolve the paradox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It has already been established in canon that they can.

    "See that snake. The mark of The Corsair. Fantastic bloke. He had that snake as a tattoo in every regeneration. Didn't feel like himself unless he had that tattoo. Or herself a couple of times. Oo hoo! She was a bad girl!"

  11. Re:Time Lord by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Funny

    The clue is in the title. Who ever heard of a "Time Lady"?!

    Um, everyone who ever watched season 16?

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  12. Or maybe.... by argStyopa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    So somehow changing an indubitably male character into a woman is a 'victory' for women?

    Perhaps we could just work on creating an interesting, engaging, successful female character and celebrate her? Or celebrate one of the many strong female characters already present in media?

    Perhaps there's a moral in here for the whole feminist movement.

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  13. How about a new SF series then? by ggraham412 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Surely a science fiction concept with a female lead can be developed outside of the current Dr. Who franchise. Or, a spin-off series featuring a female timelord can be developed in parallel, like Star Trek did with Voyager. The can have separate adventures and then guest star from time to time on each others' shows. Seems like you get more audience that way. Why is there a need to take an established character and turn it into something completely different?

    Dr. Who will always be Tom Baker in my imagination anyway.

    1. Re:How about a new SF series then? by TDyl · · Score: 2

      Agreed about Tom Baker. For the female - they could just spin-off a new show featuring the Dr's daughter - I'd follow her anywhere ;)

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    2. Re:How about a new SF series then? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      Or, a spin-off series featuring a female...

      If I can conveniently cut you off just there, there was The Sarah Jane Adventures. More for kids, admittedly, but still. There's also Gwen Cooper in Torchwood (essentially joint lead with Captain Jack, just minus superpowers). And she's a mother!

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  14. Re:Time Lord by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Informative

    Romana, played by the rather lovely Lala Ward.

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  15. Oh, shut up. by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jennifer Finney Boylan writes in the NYT that for those who did not get beaten up in high school...

    Whining about diversity and coming out with the stereotyping right out of the gate(and yes, it's a quote from TFA, I did check). Maybe she thought that was cute?

    I had a nice rant with lots of big words about diversity not about messing with established characters and missing the point and all that, but you know what? Screw it.

    Why should we bloody-nosed, inhaler puffing masses give a fuck what this imbecile has to say?

    1. Re:Oh, shut up. by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Whining about diversity and coming out with the stereotyping right out of the gate(and yes, it's a quote from TFA, I did check). Maybe she thought that was cute?

      FYI she's transexual, so 'she' grew up as a boy. What you say is correct, but that just adds another twist to the mystery of her insanity.

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  16. Re:and how do you resolve the paradox by Thugthrasher · · Score: 2

    One of the few things Neil Gaiman has done that I don't like (it was his script, if I remember correctly, though I don't know if it was his idea to have that in there).

    Don't get me wrong, now that it's there, I would accept a female Doctor, but up to that point there had been no indication that time lords ever changed sexes. With sex being a changeable characteristic, labels like "mother" and "father" get confusing and they've previously been used. What do you call a time lord who fathered you while he was male, but is now female? What if your birth mother is still female? Are they both mother? Are they both father? It just seems like it doesn't add all that much to the show except a level of confusion (it's not like there is a shortage of actors to play the part).

    Of course, I realize this is all my opinion and, like I said, I would accept a female actor there, now that it has been established as canon. I just think it was a silly idea to establish it as canon.

  17. Android by zodwallopp · · Score: 2

    Half Dalek, Half Timelord! Time stream cross-species re-integration! Just kill off Dr Who and make the show about his kid. Then stick it in the Firefly universe for half the season until it learns how to use a Tardis properly. SHOVE IN ALL THE OPTIONS!

  18. One word... by bazmail · · Score: 3, Insightful

    .. why? If gender doesn't matter any more why are we fixating on it here?

  19. Makes no sense ... by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    I realize she's pushing for gender equality here, but the Doctor is male.

    He had a wife and kids, and in the newer series someone made a partial clone of him which is now kind of his daughter. There were female time lords, be he isn't one. So why would his regenerations turn him into a female?

    Now, I don't know how they'd drum up a TARDIS for her, but Jenny should still be out there in the universe.

    I realize that with Doctor Who you may not need to worry about being strictly canonical, but there's never been anything to suggest (that I know of) that regenerations could flip your gender.

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  20. Re:Ever notice / Fluff opinion piece? by Aguazul2 · · Score: 2

    It is probably a fluff opinion piece, just to stir up some mild controversy -- so she got paid this week. Ever noticed how Magazine articles on BBC news are similar, ask some brain-dead question with a hint of controversy, discuss it a bit, then back down from the controversy without reaching a definite conclusion. This is obviously what keeps 'magazine' readers entertained, and everyone gets paid. It is not to be taken seriously in any way.

  21. No, it has already been done by isj · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Doctor should never be a woman. We have seen how that turns out in the spoof "Doctor Who and the Curse of Fatal Death", where the female Doctor notices the sonic screwdriver has "three settings".
    Links:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Who_and_the_Curse_of_Fatal_Death
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p18DKN27IZQ

  22. Re:Why not by mellon · · Score: 2

    Apparently you wouldn't watch it, but I sure would. It would make me more likely to watch it. Half the human race is female, and I know lots more female Doctor Who fans than male. So what on earth makes you think that a female Doctor wouldn't get watched? I bet even you would watch it, protesting the whole time. And if you wouldn't, is that an aspect of your character you should be bragging about? What difference does it make? It's a bloody TV show! You make decisions about what to put in a TV show because they're entertaining, and there is no way that a female Doctor wouldn't be entertaining!

  23. It's been done, and it was fine by uCallHimDrJ0NES · · Score: 2

    "Wrath of Eukor" does it seriously, "Curse of Fatal Death" does it humorously. It does work. It's fine. It doesn't matter. Also, not worth making a big deal about. Since the community can't seem to be gender neutral, if I were a programming officer at the BBC, I would probably advise against it...just to avoid the banal public discussion.

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  24. What about the woman sidekick? by Latent+Heat · · Score: 3, Interesting
    C'mon people, Dr. Who has always had a female sidekick, a very youthful and "pneumatic" (borrowing a term from Huxley) female sidekick, or somehow acquires such a woman companion in the course of the particular adventure or story arc. One such companion was a "cave woman" dressed in (poorly draped, yes!) skins; another was a flight attendant from an airliner that got caught up in a time warp.

    These sidekicks are hot by the standards of women on British TV where the extremes in cosmetic dentistry, dermatology, and plastic surgery are not followed as rigorously as in Hollywood.

    So would the female Dr. Who have a beefcake dude sidekick? Would the female Dr. Who be a babe or perhaps a mature woman in the tradition of Helen Mirren, Judy Dench, or Amanda Richardson? Or maybe a West Indian babe with a delicious regional accent as the police captain who thinks Holmes is a dangerous vigilante and medler into police business as in that Sherlock Holmes reboot (and gosh no, not the Robert Downey Jr. one).

    1. Re:What about the woman sidekick? by Nethead · · Score: 3, Informative

      The 10th Doctor had a beefcake sidekick, Capt. Jack Harkness.

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  25. When I formed my opinion of Dr. Who... by GPS+Pilot · · Score: 2

    I watched a few episodes in the late '70s. They were supremely boring and had dreadful special effects. (Even when compared to other British sci-fi of the era, such as Space: 1999.) Has the show improved since then?

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