Android 4.3 Based CyanogenMod 10.2 Nightlies Arrive

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Android 4.3 Based CyanogenMod 10.2 Nightlies Arrive

Posted by Unknown on Wednesday August 14, 2013 @01:33AM from the might-eat-your-cat dept.

hypnosec writes "The CyanogenMod team has announced the release of version 10.2 nightly builds, which are based on Google's latest Android 4.3 Jelly Bean. The current nightly builds have been released for the Google Galaxy Nexus, HTC One, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy S3, LG Optimus G, Sony Xperia Z, and Motorola Razr among others. As always, CyanogenMod team reminds that these are experimental."

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Are popular Bluetooth keyboards supported? by tepples · 2013-08-14 01:45 · Score: 1

Do these CyanogenMod builds somehow work around Android 4.3's problem with some Bluetooth keyboards?
1. Re:Are popular Bluetooth keyboards supported? by Andy+Dodd · 2013-08-14 02:12 · Score: 2
  
  I'm not sure if they do yet, but one of the team members has been working on it and I think found the culprit. They're just trying to determine the ramifications of reverting the change that broke things right now. (They were about to leave on vacation, and I think may have band-aided it before leaving though...)
  
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2. Re:Are popular Bluetooth keyboards supported? by Beardo+the+Bearded · 2013-08-14 05:04 · Score: 1
  
  The problem with BT is that the way the stack handled got overhauled completely.
  I call it Linux Developer Syndrome, wherein the new code is technically correct, but practically nonfunctioning.
  It just happens -- by conicidence -- to hit every piece of hardware I have.
  
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Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 01:50 · Score: 1

Yes, but almost no one will have the update for another two years.
nice by stoolpigeon · 2013-08-14 01:50 · Score: 4, Informative

I made the mistake of buying a galaxy s3 from t-mobile in the U.S. T-mobile hobbled the thing so badly I switched away from the stock os for the first time. I have to say that there are a few bumps but over all I've loved it. Not waiting on Samsung for ever and ever to get Android updates is probably worth it alone.

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1. Re:nice by Nerdfest · 2013-08-14 03:25 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  I find their hardware is decent, and they have some cool add-on features, but they sure aren't doing Android any favours with the nasty interface wrapper they have.
2. Re:nice by dc29A · 2013-08-14 04:09 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  They are also one of the hacker friendliest devices with most having unlocked bootloaders and they publish kernel sources. Oh and SD card slot ... and removable battery.
3. Re:nice by jkflying · 2013-08-14 04:40 · Score: 1
  
  How is battery life and camera on CM? I have an S3, and on my old phone I went full CM and loved it, but heard the actual usability was pretty crap on non-stock for the S3.
  
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4. Re:nice by Beardo+the+Bearded · 2013-08-14 05:11 · Score: 2
  
  I have an S3 with CM. The whole process took about an hour, there are guidelines everywhere, but make sure you download everything, including Gapps, before you get started.
  Camera works fine in movie and still mode, and lots of options exist. The buttons require long presses to access functionality that I thought was lost when upgrading.
  I unplug my phone in the morning, use it for tracking my ride or run with Runkeeper while playing MP3s on PowerAmp. It generally plays MP3s all day long, often while I check FB using Chrome.
  Zero problems with phone and text, I have called 911 from my car stereo no problem.
  The only problem I've had is that GTA: Vice City doesn't work. For some reason, when you get into a car the screen freezes until you get out of the car.
  Oh, and the Bluetooth stack is done different, so I don't get track / album data transferred to my car stereo. Apparently this is because CM is doing BT correctly, which is different than everyone else so it doesn't work. I still get audio transfer. The text did transfer before I flashed to CM.
  It will run out of power within 24 hours with that usage.
  
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5. Re:nice by JestersGrind · 2013-08-14 05:30 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I had a similar experience with Verizon. Their bloatware essentially crippled the device. Even with a larger battery, I was lucky to get a half day out of it. I installed a minimalist custom mod and now battery life is 3-5 days, depending on use obviously.
6. Re:nice by jkflying · 2013-08-14 08:28 · Score: 1
  
  Awesome, thank you. I think I'll wait for CM10.2 to go stable then flash.
  
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7. Re:nice by stoolpigeon · 2013-08-15 07:24 · Score: 1
  
  What put me over the edge was that I went to use my phone as a wifi hotspot and it wouldn't let me. It gave me a message about needing to purchase a special plan to do that.
  I bought the phone for full price and unlocked. I don't live in the US and couldn't buy said plan if I wanted to.
  I was pretty ticked off. My Galaxy S was also from T-Mobile but did not have that issue. Being able to use it for internet access when other options weren't available is one of the major reasons I'm willing to pay for a data plan.
  There might have been other workarounds but that was the last straw. My next phone will be a Nexus device.
  
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Closed source drivers still a bane by Kinwolf · 2013-08-14 01:55 · Score: 3, Informative

I tried CM 10 on my GS3 and sadly I had to remove it. Wi-fi, camera and bluetooth refused to work properly, kept crashing or had awful performance, depending on the revision installed. So I went back to the stock ROM, which isn't too bad thankfully, but still has alot of services and programs that I have no use of and yet are always loaded in memory. Next phone(which should not be before 3 years) I am going Nexus to avoid all that pain.(and hoping that Nexus phones still exist at that time)
1. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 02:35 · Score: 1
  
  Didn't we just have a front page article about how the Nexus 7 has closed source drivers and some guys stopped maintaining their build?
  Waiting for Tuppe666 to tell me why this is good, and how Google is jesus.
2. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Kinwolf · 2013-08-14 02:54 · Score: 1
  
  I will gladly retry it then.
3. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Kinwolf · 2013-08-14 02:57 · Score: 2
  
  Didn't we just have a front page article about how the Nexus 7 has closed source drivers and some guys stopped maintaining their build?
  Waiting for Tuppe666 to tell me why this is good, and how Google is jesus.
  I don't know if google is jesus, , but after googling it I found out that Jesus is ON Google +!
4. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 03:05 · Score: 1, Insightful
  
  The lack of microSD card slots on the Nexus crap is why I refuse to buy one. The morons responsible for creating that hardware would have us believe that the lack of microSD Card slot is a GOOD thing. Well, they're wrong. Jerks.
5. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by MightyMartian · 2013-08-14 03:40 · Score: 1
  
  It's a pretty small quibble. I use Dropbox, Google Drive and a USB connection to my computer to move data on and off my Nexus 7. I'd wager even if I had an SD slot, I'd rarely use it.
  
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6. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by evilRhino · 2013-08-14 03:41 · Score: 1
  
  It seems as though the microSD medium is now depreciated. Don't expect any of the new phones to have removable media slots.
7. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by dc29A · 2013-08-14 04:12 · Score: 1
  
  My SGH-T999 works great on CM 10.2 nightlies, before I was on 10.1.2+ nightlies, never had any issue with BT, WiFi nor camera.
8. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by dc29A · 2013-08-14 04:13 · Score: 1
  
  Maybe it's a way for Google not to compete with their partners, especially Samsung.
9. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by tepples · 2013-08-14 04:17 · Score: 1
  
  I use Dropbox, Google Drive
  Which take 500 MB of one's monthly cap to move a 250 MB video file (250 up + 250 down) and don't work if there's no Internet connection (such as on a bus or in a bowling center). What works for me more often is sharing a folder over the network and using Rhythmsoft File Manager on my tablet to copy files out of the shared folder.
  
  and a USB connection to my computer
  Nexus 7 uses MTP protocol to move files on and off. Should I upgrade my laptop from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to 12.10 to 13.04 to get the new Gvfs that supports MTP out of the box, or is there another good MTP client for Ubuntu?
10. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by bprice20 · 2013-08-14 04:32 · Score: 1
  
  I second that. I have a gs3 with ting and cm10.1.2, it works a treat.
11. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by TheGratefulNet · 2013-08-14 04:36 · Score: 1
  
  its NOT a small problem!
  there are many times when I don't have net access (maybe I'm in my car and not getting signal; and if I want to play back mp3's it has to come from local storage).
  cloud sucks. I won't ever COUNT on cloud shit being there.
  no local storage == no phone purchase. its that simple.
  soldered in battery also is a showstopper for me, even though I can unsolder and do my own repairs. if I need to swap batteries to get extended runtime (or any other reason) I'm not going to be told 'no' by the phone maker.
  my ancient N1 still gets me by even though its buggy as hell and won't upgrade past cm7.x. but it does have sd-card and a user swappable battery. until I see a phone that has these 2 must-haves, I'm not going to re-buy hardware.
  tell the unwashed masses to 'live in the cloud', but I'm not buying that weak-assed excuse for hardware hobblement.
  
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12. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by TheGratefulNet · 2013-08-14 04:37 · Score: 1
  
  they won't .... until they do!
  I can't believe they'll all join the group of hobbled-hardware-by-design. one has to break from the pack and think on its own.
  that one will be my next purchase. I will skip all the others that force cloudiness.
  
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13. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by IndustrialComplex · 2013-08-14 04:58 · Score: 1
  
  Which take 500 MB of one's monthly cap to move a 250 MB video file (250 up + 250 down) and don't work if there's no Internet connection (such as on a bus or in a bowling center). What works for me more often is sharing a folder over the network and using Rhythmsoft File Manager on my tablet to copy files out of the shared folder.
  How often are you swapping SD cards on a bus?
  
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14. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by clgoh · 2013-08-14 05:18 · Score: 1
  
  The battery is not soldered in in the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7.
15. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Crudely_Indecent · 2013-08-14 06:12 · Score: 1
  
  You must've done something wrong. CM10 works fine on my GS3. Everything - camera, gps, bluetooth, wifi, tethering - it all works fine.
  Looking forward to the new camera app in CM10.2
  
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16. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by tepples · 2013-08-14 08:36 · Score: 1
  
  Wireless as in WLAN (Wi-Fi) or wireless as in cellular? If cellular, refer to what I wrote above about caps. I'd have to buy a MiFi and tether both my laptop and my tablet to it.
17. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by snadrus · 2013-08-14 09:42 · Score: 1
  
  I tried the MTP clients and they're all buggy. Since 13.04's got it built-in, it's nice & fast. It also has been bug-free for me, and I regularly push multi-GB files to SD.
  
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18. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by dfghjk · 2013-08-14 12:20 · Score: 1
  
  "no local storage == no phone purchase. its that simple."
  What phone has no local storage? I guess it's not that simple.
19. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by dfghjk · 2013-08-14 12:34 · Score: 1
  
  SD in phones is "hobbled-hardware-by-design" and always has been. It does not transparently expand the storage that exists on the device, storage that you seem to think doesn't exist. With such ignorance on display, why should anyone listen to you?
  Once upon a time, smartphones didn't transparently switch between cellular and WiFi. Then the iPhone came along and did it right and now it's taken for granted. Expandable storage on phones works poorly because talented people aren't committed to making it work well. If Apple supported SD in iOS, which they wouldn't, it wouldn't be the crippled POS that it is in Android and people would want it. Never underestimate the value of actually getting it right.
  Customers won't demand something that works poorly when there are better alternatives. For most users adequate internal storage IS a better alternative because it just works.
20. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by dfghjk · 2013-08-14 12:43 · Score: 1
  
  Went to the Google store and saw this here: https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=samsung_galaxy_s4&hl=en
  "1) MicroSD card only compatible with select third party applications. Not compatible with Google services. "
  By "select third party applications" they mean almost nothing.
  The problem is that SD cards in Android devices suck and few applications support them. Meanwhile, most users are satisfied with 16-32 GB and it's better in many ways to simply integrate that and leave the nerds to bitch and moan. You don't need more than 16GB to carry plenty of music with you.
21. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Miamicanes · 2013-08-15 18:39 · Score: 1
  
  I have to second that. CM10.1rc5 was a mess on the AT&T GS3, but a lot of that mess sorted itself out once I managed to get my hands on the new I747UCDMG2 radio modem. Apparently, 4.2 needs some new extensions to the radio modem to work properly, and most of them unfortunately had to be kludged for 4.2 to work on d2att/i747 until the new radio modem finally got released into the wild.
22. Re:Closed source drivers still a bane by Miamicanes · 2013-08-15 19:04 · Score: 1
  
  It's not so much that Google is Jesus, as "Qualcomm has fucked up licensing policies". For example, the REAL reason why every carrier in the US -- including our two nominally-GSM ones -- impose "LTE Lock-in" is due to the way Qualcomm licenses its radio modem firmware. Basically, if you're someone like Sony, Qualcomm will sell you the chips, but they insist on licensing the LTE (and CDMA) firmware directly (and ONLY) to the carrier itself. So, it's basically impossible to build a phone with carrier-agnostic LTE using a Qualcomm chipset and sell it in the US.
  The good news is that Qualcomm's monopoly on top-shelf American LTE-capable chipsets is almost over. The Renesas MP5232 was announced last December, and phones built with it (including the new HTC One Google Play Edition, which happens to be pretty much the only non-AT&T-blessed phone capable of doing LTE on AT&T). With a little luck, by this time next year, the floodgates will start to open, and there will be at least a few top-shelf imports capable of doing an end run around AT&T and using LTE without having to kiss their ring first.
Interested but will wait by rikkards · 2013-08-14 02:06 · Score: 1

I have 10.1 on my S4. I had it on within 24 hours of getting the phone. I find the Samsung ROM too busy and flashy. But I am waiting for the issues around the camera to be dealt with before trying it out.
Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Andy+Dodd · 2013-08-14 02:11 · Score: 5, Informative

How can we fix a bug in shit that isn't ours?
Play Store is part of gapps, which has always been a separate install because it's Google's stuff and not open source. It's a Play Store problem, not a base OS problem (which is why it started happening suddenly on devices that did not receive any form of OS update).

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Still waiting for S3 Mini Stable by Tukz · 2013-08-14 02:13 · Score: 1

When I read this story, I immediately checked if they finally made a CM for Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, but alas they haven't.
According to what I can find, there should be a very early alpha around, but certain important things are still not working in that build.
However, someone made a custom CM build from that alpha build, that should work.
http://maclaw.pl/2013/06/26/release-cm10-1-s3-mini-2/
I just don't feel like messing around with my phone with a custom-custom ROM.
Hopefully CM will release a stable CM for SGS3 Mini soon(tm), as I grew quite fond of CM on my HTC Desire, which prolonged the life of it substantially.
Only replaced it when I had enough of the extremely low internal memory.

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1. Re:Still waiting for S3 Mini Stable by Andy+Dodd · 2013-08-14 02:48 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  S3 Mini is NovaThor based, and I am not sure if a single NovaThor device is receiving nightlies.
  Some NovaThor-based Sonys got unofficial weekly builds from FreeXperia, but the platform was a nightmare to work with and I think jerpelea gave up on NovaThor after either CM9 or CM10.0
  And yes - there are platforms even worse for a CM maintainer than Exynos4. NovaThor and MTK65xx being two of them.
  
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Re:Update by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 02:23 · Score: 2, Informative

You mean 10.1.2 Stable?
Yeah, ages and ages. Or, yknow, a month. Whatever.
Re:do they fix the play store update bug by spartacus_prime · 2013-08-14 02:30 · Score: 2

I had that problem after flashing the latest Gapps build. What I did that fixed the problem was deleting my Google account from my phone and wiping all that data out, and then reinstalling it. My apps updated like normal.

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Hmm...cannot find .zip by dtotheatothevtothee · 2013-08-14 02:44 · Score: 1

I downloaded the latest update and gapps 4.3, but when I boot into recovery it says the .zip cannot be found. Would this have anything to do with my phone being encrypted?
1. Re:Hmm...cannot find .zip by dtotheatothevtothee · 2013-08-14 02:51 · Score: 1
  
  On my Nexus 4 ClockworkMod Recovery v6.0.2.3 Finding update package... E: Can't mount /sdcard/0/cmupdater/cm-10.2-20130814-NIGHTLY-mako.zip Installation aborted E: Can't mount /sdcard/
2. Re:Hmm...cannot find .zip by dtotheatothevtothee · 2013-08-14 04:23 · Score: 1
  
  I used the built-in encryption, so guessing the whole phone (it's the Nexus 4 with no external SD.) I can't find anyway to get the files downloaded to the root dir. I tried redirecting the download folder in Firefox to root. I can't seem to find out how to change it on Chrome or Dolphin. I have ROMmanager...it boots into Recovery mode & then I get the stuff posted above. I'm at work now so I can't hook it up to the computer. I'll mess with it when I get home...worse comes to worse I just do a clean boot.
3. Re: Hmm...cannot find .zip by cnj · 2013-08-14 07:07 · Score: 1
  
  use the sideload option in recovery
  
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correct that please by DragonTHC · 2013-08-14 02:48 · Score: 1

LG Optimus G is not one of the officially supported devices.

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Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 02:52 · Score: 5, Informative

lots of people are getting "package is invalid" errors when they try to update random apps. sometimes apps update, sometimes not
It's not just happening with Cyanogen, it's happening to people using the stock ROM's from their Carrier as well.
Re:do they fix the play store update bug by tepples · 2013-08-14 04:08 · Score: 1

I have two Google accounts on my phone: the one I originally created to use AdSense and YouTube, and the one I created to use Gmail. Some of my purchased apps are under my Gmail account because back when Google Play Store was called Android Market, it would complain that "something@something.com does not use Gmail". Would I need to try removing both?
Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 04:45 · Score: 1

This only proves the closed nature of Android. What makes it really funny is that not only is Android largely closed source, it *still* manages to have the worst fragmentation problem of any platform.
Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Anonymous Coward · 2013-08-14 11:49 · Score: 1

If Valve developed Linux, managed the entire source tree, and 99% of all Linux installations included Steam... then yes it would be just like that.
I'm waiting by LanMan04 · 2013-08-15 02:46 · Score: 2

I dirty-flashed my Nexus 4 (mako) with the new 4.3 nightly over the last/latest 4.2.2 nightly (and flashed the new gapps) and it was a disaster.
--Play Store broken, errors on every download/update even after clearing data/cache/etc
--No audio on phone calls
--Practically every Google app crashed
--No photosphere in the camera app
Bleh, I'll wait until it's stable.

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Re:do they fix the play store update bug by Weezul · 2013-08-15 03:06 · Score: 1

I soo need to switch to CyanogenMod for exactly this reason. Avoid closed source apps!

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