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Forrester: NSA Spying Could Cost Cloud $180B, But Probably Won't

itwbennett writes "Forrester's James Staten argues in a blog post that the U.S. cloud computing industry stands to lose as much as $180 billion, using the reasoning put forth by a well-circulated report from The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation that pegged potential losses closer to $35 billion. But Staten's real point is that when it comes down to it the cloud industry will likely not take much of a hit at all. Because as much as they voice their displeasure, turning back isn't really an option for businesses using the cloud."

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  1. "the cloud" is just mainframes again by Dan667 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    and all the problems of mainframes (like people spying on you) are being "rediscovered". The problems have not changed and no one will ever care about your data as much as you do.

  2. Two years to go by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It'll take about two years for this problem to disappear.

    There's an enormous monetary incentive for cloud services to implement good privacy. Anyone who doesn't implement it will get their lunch eaten by someone who does.

    There's already a massive exodus away from US based servers, both at home and abroad. People are thinking through the ramifications of having their sensitive information used as "incentives" to help business. Your client lists, sales information, costs and accounting - if any part of your local network is in the cloud, the US can rifle through it and trade the information to another company in return for help fighting terrorism. Many people will choose to believe that this is not happening, but what the heck - who can tell any more?

    This is a self-correcting problem.

    Mega has announced an encrypted E-mail service, the client software will be open for public inspection, and none of it will be hosted on US servers.

    Google has admitted in court that they don't think users have an expectation of privacy.

    Which E-mail service would you rather use? The one from a sleazy convicted criminal, but with impenetrable security? Or the one from a company that always rifles through the contents, but promises to only do it for the better good?

    1. Re:Two years to go by rtb61 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The real question is will US three letter agencies bloated top heavy with for profit corporate contractors, simply indulge themselves in industrial espionage, there are just hundreds of billions to be made. Will they see an opportunity for inside trading on shares again billions to be made and just a key press away on the cloud.

      How many countries will be stupid enough to allow this to happen, not just in global markets but locally in their markets. How destructive could the US become in economic warfare, how destructive could all the for profit corporate contractors neck deep in US intelligence agencies in their quest for profits.

      Seriously will they resist the temptation to strip mine other countries economies, buy up all the assets and leave everyone beholding to the US. Stop and really think about what can be fiscally done when you have free access to the business cloud, every business email, every business phone call and can hack into every business network. Total global financial control and can't US corporations be trusted with that, ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT.

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  3. Open Source Failure by buswolley · · Score: 5, Insightful
    My information is my private property.

    Why isn't there a "simple" host your own "data manager" for people that will be their "email, social, storage server"?

    If opensource had a cause, that should be it,

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  4. Re:Facinating... by profplump · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The harm caused by exposing these programs isn't a result of their exposure -- the programs are harmful in their own right, whether or not they are exposed.

    Essentially you're arguing that if Warren Buffet murdered someone the government would be justified in keeping it a secret because exposing his crime would disrupt his economic contributions.