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NSA Broke Privacy Rules Thousands of Times Per Year, Audit Finds

NettiWelho writes "The Washington Post reports: The National Security Agency has broken privacy rules or overstepped its legal authority thousands of times each year since Congress granted the agency broad new powers in 2008, according to an internal audit and other top-secret documents. Most of the infractions involve unauthorized surveillance of Americans or foreign intelligence targets in the United States, both of which are restricted by law and executive order. They range from significant violations of law to typographical errors that resulted in unintended interception of U.S. e-mails and telephone calls."

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  1. Well finally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now congress HAS to do something about it!

    1. Re:Well finally by TrekkieGod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Now congress HAS to do something about it!

      Yeah. They're going to increase the NSA budget so they can implement an internal office of surveillance review or something like that.

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  2. Re:3 frightening words by TWiTfan · · Score: 5, Funny

    But...but...President Obama and the NSA chief assured us that abuses don't happen and that there's plenty of oversight to stop them. So surely the Washington Post MUST be mistaken!

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  3. Re:3 frightening words by causality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it time to say "We told you fuckers."?

    Don't worry. The next time you see it coming because you understand this concept of a "track record" or have read a little history, you'll still be called a tin-foil hatter.

    There are large numbers of people who never really grew up emotionally and are unable to cope with reality despite possibly having high intelligence. It's not that they have any solid reason to doubt you (in fact it's the opposite if they bothered to look). It's that they want so badly to believe their government is not out-of-control that they're personally offended you would suggest otherwise. Of course anything that offends them must be wrong, right?

    This is actually how the average person perceives reality. Yes it's scary. It's why so little effort is put towards prevention.

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  4. clever by Triv · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The findings conveniently move the goalposts - it implies that the issue is that the spying is being done incorrectly, not that it's being done at all; if it were done "correctly" we would never know, which was the NSA's original win condition.

    Yep. We're fucked.

  5. Re:so basically, what we knew by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It isn't like they were digging up dirt on political candidates in order to sway elections or blackmailing the leaders of the Occupy movement to make them back off.

    no but we DO know that the IRS was abusing political opponants, damn near everything that we have been told has been a lie since obama took office (and before he did to be clear) I dont know how you or anyone can still say things like "well we dont know...." we know enough to know they lied, about ALOT. I feel that we have only just begun to find the truth in this administration.

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  6. Re:Take a breath, get some perspective. by ATMAvatar · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Whether it is deliberate or through incompetence is irrelevant. The NSA is still depriving US citizens of their rights on a frighteningly large scale. In addition, the director lied directly to Congress while under inquiry. Nothing is happening to the agency or its members as a result. There's plenty of reason to be upset.

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  7. Re:3 frightening words by kilfarsnar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is it time to say "We told you fuckers."?

    I informed you thusly! I so informed you thusly.

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  8. Re:so basically, what we knew by ImOuttaHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Americans seem too easily distracted to really do much more than complain.

    Habeas corpus? Gone. Being spied on in clear violation of the 4th Amendment? No problem. Invade and occupy a country that had nothing to do with the events of 911? Bring it on. Grant China entry to the WTO, and in the end, loose millions of American job to the PRC? Hey, that's just "business."

    It doesn't really matter if the Man In Office is Baby Bush, the Blue Dress Stainer, or Obama. In-action on the part of We The People tells the people in power everything they ever wanted to hear. They can get way with anything and no meaningful action against them will be taken. Never.

    The question left is, what are we(the people) going to do about it?

    It is a very serious question. At what point do westerners say enough is enough and overthrow governments, or at the very least hold people accountable and arrest them?

  9. Re: 3 frightening words by number6x · · Score: 5, Interesting

    2008? I didn't know Obama POTUS then.

    Well...

    If the 'Obama'-recession started in 2007, and the 'Obama'-phone program started in 1984, he must have been president in 2008!

    2008, 2007, 1984 What party were those presidents from? Oh yeah, that 'less government' party that keeps giving us more government.

    Don't listen to what politicians say to you, look at what they actually do. Democrats spend too much money and Republicans spend even more.

  10. One article I actually read, and now wish I hadn't by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Informative

    A few interesting tidbits to share...

    1) The documents reports 2776 violations of American privacy in just the 12 months ending in May 2012. Oh, and that's only for their Fort Meade data center and a few others in D.C. area, rather than for all of their data centers across the U.S.. They acknowledge the number would be significantly higher if it included all of them. Oh, and those are the number of incidents that occurred, not the number of Americans who were violated in each incident, which is actually a much higher number but isn't reported.

    2) They quadrupled their oversight staff after a series of significant violations in 2009. And the results? Between 2011 and 2012, the number of infractions nearly doubled. Not halved, doubled.

    3) They accidentally collected a "large number" of calls for people in Washington D.C. when there was a mixup between the international code for Egypt (20) and the area code for D.C. (202). No disclosure on what they meant by "large number", but considering the severity of other infractions, it has to be pretty large.

    4) They didn't report the Egypt/D.C. mixup to the organization that oversees/audits them, nor to Congress or anyone else outside the agency, because it was deemed irrelevant to any of them. It was deemed irrelevant since "there were no defects to report", to quote a March 2013 report on the issue.

    5) "Incidental" information on Americans that is collected when targeting foreigners is regularly allowed to enter their database and is freely searchable from then on. They don't count these as violations, nor do they report them, and they are apparently pervasive under their current way of doing things.

    6) In one violation, they hijacked a fiber line going through the U.S. and temporarily held onto all data going through it so that they could process it. This went on for several months before the FISC ruled that what they were doing was a violation of the 4th Amendment since they were incapable of filtering out the communication of American citizens. FOIA requests have been submitted for the ruling, but the Obama administration is apparently working to block the requests.

    Geez. After reading something like this, I can see why no one around here reads the articles. They're way too depressing.

  11. Re:Take a breath, get some perspective. by JWW · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yep. Us citizens do not get a pass if we "accidentally" break the law. The NSA should not get one either. Plus their definition of "accidentally" is pretty lame and not really that far removed from intentional.

  12. Re: 3 frightening words by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    1916 US troops occupy the Dominican Republic

    1917 US enters WW1

    1941 The US enters WW2

    1950 The US Invades Korea

    1961 US invades the Bay of Pigs

    1965 US combat troops enter Vietnam

    What party were those presidents from? Oh yeah, the peace loving party. What party was the only president to ever detonate nuclear bombs against another country from?

    Republicans are hawks, Democrats enter us in some of the biggest wars.

    Republicans are supposed to be for family values, but how many get caught in extramarital affairs?

    Democrats want to help the minorities. But almost the entire party fought the civil rights movement.

    Don't listen to what any politician says. I'm starting to think that more often than not they will do(or have done) the exact opposite of what they tell you.