Can a Japanese AI Get Into University?
the_newsbeagle writes "Japanese researchers are trying to develop an artificial intelligence program that can pass the standardized test required of all college-bound high school students. Interestingly, the AI is showing good progress in the history portion of the exam, because it's fairly adept at looking up answers in a vast textual database. But the so-called Todai Robot is having trouble with math, 'because the questions are presented as word problems, which the Todai Robot must translate into equations that it can solve,' as well as with physics, which 'presumes that the robot understands the rules of the universe.' If the AI does succeed in mastering the general university exam, researchers will next tackle the notoriously difficult University of Tokyo entrance exam, which will require the bot to write essays."
With all the rote memorization and simple-minded pattern recognition that goes on over there (and here, and in many countries), it probably wouldn't be impossible.
There is something fundamentally broken if tackling the University is considered easier than passing the Turing test.
There's even some rather stupid "law of headlines" that says so (it has to be right at least sometimes).
BTW: That is not limited to Japanese AIs.
A popular book was written about a bunch of delinquents trying to get into one of Japan's top universities using special techniques, which mostly revolved around memorization and borderline cheating. A common criticism of the entrance exams is that they do rely too much on recall and can be gamed in this way.
For example to pass the English language exam it was necessary to write extremely simple but correct sentences. You lose marks for mistakes so trying to write naturally and fluently is a bad idea. Simple, factually correct statements that don't flow together are the best option.
I can see why they think a computer might be able to succeed here.
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I have already teached math to pupils of 17yo. The most classical theme was the study of a function, but in most of the subjects, the questions are badly phrased and disturbing. My strategy was to teach them how to study a function with only the function as input (without the questions). And when they have understood how to do this, study the different wording of questions and how thy match what they have already understood.
In mathematics, I think the program should first understand the equations, then try to understand the text.
Maybe it can, but if it does wouldn't that just demonstrate that the exams are testing for the wrong things?
Time is what keeps everything from happening all at once.
FYI, "Todai" is the abbreviation for "Tokyo Daigaku" (University of Tokyo).
If it fails, it still makes it.
But could it spend a year boozing and partying when it gets there?
Since the 1980's there had been a rush to develop AI in many countries. From America to Europe to Asia, many universities, even countries, invested a lot in Artificial Intelligence.
While some AI initiatives were just for fun, many had serious objectives.
Some AI research had already borne fruits - The computer trading programs utilized by big trading firms are powered by sophisticated AI engines.
And then, there are AI research which carry a dark objective - intelligent war bots.
Japan is one of the few countries which had invested a lot in AI, and robotics - seemingly fun projects such as the Sony Aibo is serious business to the Japanese, for their aim is to build bots that can tackle all terrain with ease, and when coupled with their AI (like this one which can take exams), can become, if the Japanese wish to, a formidable force of war bots which they can send to front line, in a moment's notice.
The world of "Terminator" may not be very far from being reality, after all.
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If the AI cannot get into Tokyo university, maybe it should apply Devry
We're determined to create a human-like AI and we'll one day succeed, it's just a matter of time...of course we still don't fully understand learning in humans and how, in fine detail our brain functions on all levels.
Passing some standard tests is not a worth goal for an AI development in my opinion. It's the ability to dynamically adapt and respond based on past experiences that is closer to human intelligence. When the AI can get drunk the night before, wake up late, lace shoes and run to class and manage a respectable B on a paper he or she was not really prepared for then we can call it "AI".
You know, that's a pretty standard test humans pass all the time. (many don't)
A 'singular oddity' is an event that cannot be explained and only happens when you are alone.
I have to say, I didn't see the 'ai' bit and read it as 'can a Japanese get into university?' and thought 'how racist is that?' and 'you really need to improve your grammar' :-)
Then they want it to win an idol singing contest.
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It's a little mean to make fun of somebody just because he's Japanese and has a non-traditional name. Or are you suggesting that guys named Al are usually dumb, but that somehow if there was a Japanese Al, he'd get some kind of racial bonus that makes up for it? If so, that's pretty racist, as well as oddly biased against people named Al.
I personally know a great guy named Al, who is probably smarter than most of you are. I have no idea where this anti-Al sentiment is coming from. It isn't like Als are routinely represented in TV and movies as being mentally deficient. For example, the character Al Borland in the show "Home Improvement" was very intelligent and had a myriad of impressive skills. Then there's Al Bundy from "Married with Children", and while he isn't highly educated, he has a significant amount of worldy wisdom and knows how to deal with all the bullshit that goes on in his life without going insane. Not to mention he scored four touchdowns in one game!
Overall I just don't understand... wait, what was that? Oh, that's an "i" not an "L". My bad. I bet Al would have caught that immediately.
"No." Thanks, Dice, I mean /. It's getting to the point where I'm going to have to start looking elsewhere for news of this kind, cause this crap is getting as bad as the news on TV.
Call me when the AI program commits suicide because it is not able to crack the entrance examination. Then you are talking.
sed -e 's/Chuck Norris/Rajnikant/g' joke > fact
Can it qualify for a boat loan?
Can the AI bot *afford* to pay for university ??
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Then it can go to school.
--paul
I have that exact same problem. Like me, it'll just have to settle for a state U. Since it's Japanese I'm sure it's parents are very dissapointed.
Which field are we talking about here? If it is mathematics/science then I would definitely expect that software could be written to answer standardized questions.
Making any sense of the humanities? Now there is a field even intelligent beings struggle to comprehend...
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Albert, Alfred and Alfonse are very uncommon names in Japan.
So it's very likely there are no Japanese Als in university.
Make the AI play piano, be part of the math team, and about 50% of the time be a conservative protestant and the other 50% of the time not speak a lick of english and they'll be perfect match for any university in Canada.
Other than the chess club what other club activities did it do?
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University: Sorry your student application could not be accepted due to an overwhelming list of 200.000.000 AI students.
Try again next year.
Nope, a robot is nowhere near being able to pass the University of Tokyo entrance exam, because it can't have hijinks with a bevy of cuties while trying to study to pass the exam.
Japanese Universitys are why to much about the test over real skills.
BTW, some research has been done on algebra word problems, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUDENT_%28computer_program%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astro_Boy_(character)
Due to word problems? So, you're saying that math problems are so poorly written, either deliberately or through incompetance in communicating, that the AI can't get them? Any chance of this explaining why humans have trouble with them?
mark
PS: Yes, before you ask, when I took the SATs many decades ago, my math score was probably higher than yours is now, kiddies.
Designing a system to pass the test is what most IT outsourcing companies do !
Its when you try to do something useful with it that you find all your code is good for is giving convincing answers to the test it had to face. Although I guess if skynet will be obsessive/compulsive about getting into University the future would be a less perilous place....
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I'm just curious if anyone reading this is interesting in building strong AI. I'm interested and do like to meet such like minded people.
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I've written code. I haven't worked directly on an AI project, but I've been around them in academia.
The coding (and 'AI' I guess you could say) and software for taking some kind of entrance exam and differentiating targets and choosing which to kill on a battlefield are two separate things.
You're in LA LA land...as in L.A....Los Angeles...Hollywood to be exact...you're theory is not very plausible
Sure, governments do weapons research and call it toy research or whathave you...maybe you're onto something with the Aibo robot dog...
But the Israelis and others just develop this shit right in the open...probably with an eye towards selling it
I think the whole 'let's fear AI' thing is misplaced (there are legit issues...keeping humans in the loop for kill shots on drones for example)...it's the humans who are in control of the technology we need to keep accountable.
Thank you Dave Raggett