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Ostrich-Egg Globe Believed Oldest To Show New World
The National Post is carrying a report of an exciting discovery for cartographic historians: an ostrich-egg globe purchased last year at the London Map Fair is now believed to be the oldest to show any part of the New World. "In a lengthy essay published in the latest issue of The Portolan, the peer-reviewed journal of the Washington Map Society, Belgian map collector and historical researcher Stefaan Missinne argues that the ostrich-egg globe not only predates the Hunt-Lenox Globe but was probably used as the model for casting the more famous copper object. If true, then the small, unnamed island shown to the far north in the 'Mundus Novus' portion of the egg-globe’s western hemisphere — a crude depiction of the 'New World' as it was understood just a few years after the discovery voyages of Christopher Columbus, John Cabot and others — is the earliest image of Newfoundland or any other part of Canada on any surviving globe in the world."
More at the Washington Map Society's page.
It is obvious to anyone with even a modicum of education that the world is flat.
This so-called "globe" is merely the first example of state-sponsored misinformation, designed to keep the general populace ignorant of the true nature of the world.
one very clever ostrich
I got to the chocolate box before you, that's why the hard ones have teeth marks.
There are strong evidences that the Portuguese discovered America long before Columbus. But do not take my word, do your own research.
Also, there are indications that Columbus himself was Portuguese.
I will let this sink in (no pun intended).
You can read a bit about it here http://www.dightonrock.com/discoveryofnorthamerica.htm, although it doesn't look like a very credible site, seems to be inline with texts I read elsewhere.
Disclaimer: I am Portuguese.
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i see your point however it is obvious they are talking about known globes/maps. I am positive that there were others before this of the area however they are lost or still hidden from modern society.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
oh yeah, all those examples of native american made globes out there really prove your point.
I suppose the Native Americans didn't use maps or globes?
I'm sure they used maps, but as they weren't a seafaring race, I doubt they had globes.
If I can be modded down for being a troll, can I be modded up for being an orc, or a balrog?
I'm sure they used maps, but as they weren't a seafaring race, I doubt they had globes.
Actually, northern Native American "maps" were more like "narratives" on how to get from once place to the next, and were mostly stored on human media. So a "map" would be more like directions, "Travel in the direction of the setting sun, hang a Ralph at the big snowy mountain . . .", etc.
They weren't geographical maps in that sense.
Schroedinger's Brexit: The UK is both in and out of the EU at the same time!
Everybody was fishing off the Grand Banks and trying to keep it a secret. Although throughout the beginning of the Age of Discovery maps were kept top secret.
Da Vinci may have made that globe, or someone working with him. They had access to maps and books in the Vatican, which were gifts from the Chinese in 1434.
Were the maps the result of the The Ming Voyages? There's old tales that tell of the Chinese reaching the west coast of the Americas in the same era. China's xenophobic history seems to have been punctuated by just that one era of exploration. I've never found an authoritative, definitive read on the subject.
And the photograph of this great, revolutionary globe
depicting the New World is centered on... Europe.
Great job, National Post, fantastic reporting, that's what we
need good journalists for.
(Second link has a better picture)
Who used hard C? Try EVERYONE who spoke or wrote Latin in the Renaissance, which basically meant everyone with any education and literacy. K was only in use for a few rare words (kalendae, sometimes Karthago, but even that usually had a C). "Kanada" would be nigh impossible; "Canada" is exactly what you'd expect. Latin: it's why there's an "America" instead of an "Ameriga" today.
There wasn't a "race" of Native Americans, there were many different peoples of varied descent. There were at least three major and many minor influxes of people from northeast Asia, and possibly some from northern Europe, and maybe even Africa and southeast Asia. Scandinavians had more in common with Arabs than Algonquins did with Andean peoples.
There were a number of seafaring American peoples. There were many in the Pacific Northwest and the Caribbean, traders sailed from northern Chile to Central America and others from Central America to central California, and IIRC there was also trade between the mouths of the Amazon and the Rio Plata. Because the only written histories were destroyed by the Spanish (Bishop Landa boasted of having burned over a million books in his diocese alone) they're mostly forgotten.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
They may have traded as far away as the Gulf of Guinea, as Ming Dynasty ceramic has been excavated in the ruins of Timbuktu. An interesting book on the Chinese naval expeditions of the time is '1421, The Year China Discovered America' by Gavin Menzies. Although his conclusions are somewhat dubious the research he has done is quite interesting.
"Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
Not of the world.
If you want a map that includes both newfoundland and cape horn you're not likely to find any native american maps from before 1504 that has what you're looking for. If you want to find any native american maps that include european or asian coasts from before 1500 you're SOL.
An interesting book on the Chinese naval expeditions of the time is '1421, The Year China Discovered America' by Gavin Menzies.
I get sad whenever I see someone take Menzies seriously. He is a crank, nothing in his books can be trusted.
Stevanius Jobus placed the first copywrite on 'directions to and of the New World' and then charged a lot of gold for it. Good thing is was so badly wrong to begin with.
Oh. For a second there I thought the previous AC had a speech impediment due to trauma suffered when they were a schoolboy and were attacked by a bat.
Menzies is an idiot, and Chinese ceramics in Timbuktu are much more easily explained by down-the-line trading than actual voyaging. not to downplay what the Chinese accomplished; Zheng Hei's fleet was certainly technically capable of making transoceanic voyages, but there is absolutely no evidence that they ever did.
IFR navigation is largely following directions in relation to radio beacons, largely VOR headings marking "Victor airways" and the intersecting points of VOR headings.
Pre-9-11, I had conversations with cockpit crews and was told that IFR nav, in turn, is for General Aviation weenies as the Big Guys up in the Positive-Control Airspace of the Flight Levels and Terminal Control Areas do it by The Great Spirit in the Sky giving them radar vectors . . .
But didn't the Vikings carry a credit card that gave them more usable Rewards Points for their overseas travels?
At 57 comments (plus this one), it's not even in contention. I've submitted articles with lower comment counts than that. And noting that you've a lower UID than I have (rare!), I wouldn't be terribly surprised if you had too.
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"
There's an old adage that "if it seems too good to be true, it probably is" ; always worth remembering when something comes along like this which seems too good to be true.
Hitler Diaries, anyone?
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"