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Omate TrueSmart Watch Stands Alone — No Phone Required

jarold writes to point out an intriguing entry in the expanding smart-watch field: the Omate TrueSmart watch. Production of samples is about start on the watch after a successful Kickstarter campaign. Unlike some of the smart watches now out (or promised for soon), the TrueSmart is capable of making voice calls, sending texts, and using social media messaging without a separate smartphone or tablet. The specs are impressive, for something you wear on your wrist: Android 4.2.2 running on a dual core Cortex A7 and half a gig of RAM, 4GB of storage (expandable via micro-SD slot).

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  1. Watch phones are nothing new. by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    The only special thing about this one is the specs and it's running Android.

    Is this commercial break almost over?

    1. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Tukz · · Score: 1

      Several Android smart watches already exist.
      This is nothing new.

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    2. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Several Android smart watches already exist.
      This is nothing new.

      Where are they?

    3. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by notknown86 · · Score: 2

      http://www.imsmart.com/en

      The reviews are not flattering.

    4. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by RDW · · Score: 2

      There's a specialised market for phones of this size in the UK - if they make a version without the strap lugs, they could be on to a winner!:

      http://gizmodo.com/uk-moves-to-ban-phones-designed-to-fit-up-prisoner-butt-1178815285

    5. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Several Android smart watches already exist.
      This is nothing new.

      Where are they?

      http://www.imsmart.com/en
      The reviews are not flattering.

      Nope. That's just another watch that connects to your actual smartphone via bluetooth... It's not an actual smartphone IN a watch. Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

    6. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

      It very clearly is a relevant statement for this article. The question is whether it is a true statement.

    7. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by somersault · · Score: 1

      That.. adds a whole new facet to the concept of "phone sex" :p what's even more ludicrous is the linked story where people were smuggling in normal smartphones.. ouchhhh.. :s

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    8. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by omatetruesmart · · Score: 0

      Hahahaha, great sense of humor... uhm btw TrueSmart is indeed without lugs lol

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    9. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by omatetruesmart · · Score: 3, Informative

      We are presenting a few leaps forward that are new 1) First Smartwatch that is water-resistant companion to phone (like the rest) AND standalone phone 2) First Smartwatch with Google Play App store - we believe apps will do to smartwatch like they did to smartphones 3) and if we successfully surpass $500K funds raised on Kickstarter, TrueSmart will be the First Smartwatch with Sapphire Crystal glass - the best scratch-proof, stuff used by the Grandmasters of watchmakers (Rolex, Omega, Hublot, Tag Heuer, etc). The specs like Android 4.2.2, dual core, GPS / Wifi 802.11bgn / Bluetooth 4.0 are simply technical specs one-up on what's out there.

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    10. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by jkflying · · Score: 2

      Does it come with a 'vibrate' ringer option?

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    11. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Still waiting for proof of "Several Android smart watches already exist. This is nothing new." being a relevant statement for this article.

      It very clearly is a relevant statement for this article. The question is whether it is a true statement.

      It's irrelevant to this article about a smartphone-in-a-watch because they posted a link to a nonsmartphone-in-a-watch-that-connects-via-bluetooth-to-an-actual-smartphone as proof that this article is old news and that there are already several smartphones-in-a-watch on the market. It may have been a relevant statement in an article about a new nonsmartphone-in-a-watch-that-connects-via-bluetooth-to-an-actual-smartphone, but not to this one.

    12. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      So... Another made-in-china Android device that you're supposed to trust with your personal data? Where's a privacy-oriented smartphone maker when you need one? Why didn't Ubuntu's marketing for their phone focus on that?

    13. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

      Hell, when I was in the joint, there were guys who could have fit an LG Optimus up there and still have room for an ounce of weed and a Dremel tool.

      We used to joke, "...help me find my keys and we'll drive out of here."

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    14. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      YES it has vibrate... very funny on this post thread :-)

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    15. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      The world's consumer electronics and smartphones are indeed manufactured in China. That's just the way it is. Omate TrueSmart is too manufactured in China. The apps, software, user interface etc are actually produced by our very international team in USA, Canada, Finland, France, Netherlands, Singapore, Hong Kong, China. The underlying system that actually controls the privacy is made by Google though. ps. we think Ubuntu Edge failed because of the amount of pledge it was asking for. Nothing wrong with their marketing and product - which were both great.

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    16. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by jezwel · · Score: 1
      Undoing mod points to ask:
      Does the screen permanently display the time - as a normal watch does - or do you need to 'wake' the watch up?

      I've only seen one phone that boasted an 'always on' time display, and that was my old Nokia N8 with an AMOLED screen (very low power). This thing needs to work as a watch first and foremost! TIA

    17. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you seem to have come here for the sole purpose of finding someone making that mistake and then making a big deal about it. You could ofcourse have picked the nice way and just corrected him without being jerkish about it, but why bother being a nice to the people around you...

    18. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      I've only seen one phone that boasted an 'always on' time display, and that was my old Nokia N8 with an AMOLED screen (very low power). This thing needs to work as a watch first and foremost! TIA

      I know it's not what you're asking, but the N9 also has the same "always on" display feature with current time. Technically, it's not always on. It's dark when the proximity sensor is covered, as it would be if it were in a pocket, purse, holster, fanny pack, etc.

      But you're right that this would be an essential feature of wrist-mounted device. I'm old enough to have had an LED watch, and the need to push a button to display the time was the worst thing about it. Worse than the horrible battery life and the "can't read in the sun" feature. Because when you think about it, if you need to push a button or whatever on a wristwatch, you really need both hands to check the time, whereas most pocket device users can pull out a phone (or pocket watch with a flip-up cover) and wake it up without dropping whatever they're holding in the other hand. (I know where your minds are going you perverts, and I mean your coffee/pencil/standee pole/etc., not that.

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    19. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Comen · · Score: 1

      Actually I was just looking for a Bluetooth waterproof watch that would vibrate or something for when I am riding my jetski, because I do not want to drop my expensive phone in the water when I need to make a call or take a call.
      So I did a search on Amazon and found nothing but non Bluetooth cell phone watches just a couple days ago.
      I do not know why someone would want a cell phone in a watch its not going to be as nice as current phones are, and you would have to pay for a another carrier contract and separate numbers etc. Bluetooth to a phone in a waterproof bag inside my ski is what I was looking for and could not really find that.

      Here are the phone watches I found.
      http://www.amazon.com/ECOMGEAR-Waterproof-Quadband-Mobile-Bluetooth/dp/B00809X0VY
      http://www.amazon.com/Water-Proof-Stainless-Unlocked-Mobile/dp/B0055A4E98/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_1
      http://www.amazon.com/Tw810-Unlocked-Watch-Phone-Bluetooth/dp/B007SSNY00/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_2
      http://www.amazon.com/G13-Black-Quad-band-Watch-UNLOCKED/dp/B0064U47HC/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_3
      http://www.amazon.com/WaterProof-Stainless-Screen-Unlocked-Bluetooth/dp/B00EC0HZDY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_4
      http://www.amazon.com/Waterproof-Watch-Mobile-Phone-Unlocked/dp/B006XBMY9A/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_5
      http://www.amazon.com/Digital_Family-Intelligent-Waterproof-Ultra-Thin-sensitivity/dp/B00AQUOX7A/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_7
      http://www.amazon.com/MQ998-Phone-Watch-Mobile-Camera/dp/B0043V5QE2/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_8
      http://www.amazon.com/N388-Unlocked-Screen-Mobile-Adjustable/dp/B00ATJC2GM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_9
      http://www.amazon.com/Worldwide-Ultra-thin-Touchscreen-Watch-Phone/dp/B008J9ZRDY/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_12

      There are tons more also, I could go on and on.
      Now someone find me a simple Bluetooth add on watch for my current phone that can make calls and receive them, a vibration of some kind when a call comes in would also be nice!

    20. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Comen · · Score: 1

      BTW, I have seen the Pebble and Sony watches that are just Bluetooth extensions like I want, but they do not seem to be able to actually take a call on the watch, they just let you get messages/email or apps on the watch.
      It would be nice to be able to use a small speaker phone on the watch even if I had to hold it to me ear, nothing expensive Bluetooth devices like this that just go in your ear are pretty cheap, but I wear glasses and wearing one on my ear the whole time would suck. I just want a cheap Bluetooth watch that is a small speaker phone that lets you see whole is calling, make calls to a small contact list or number, and maybe text message support also. But I could find nothing.

    21. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by BluBrick · · Score: 2

      Undoing mod points to ask: Does the screen permanently display the time - as a normal watch does - or do you need to 'wake' the watch up?

      I've only seen one phone that boasted an 'always on' time display, and that was my old Nokia N8 with an AMOLED screen (very low power). This thing needs to work as a watch first and foremost! TIA

      I don't know about this particular device, but it got me thinking that, at least in similar devices, I can't imagine it would be too difficult to include an accelerometer and have it wait for a gesture to wake up the display. For example, a quick flick of the wrist through 120 degrees and back again would be sufficiently unusual to not be done accidentally, not so odd that you'd look conspicuous doing it, and very easy to remember. Yeah, you wouldn't wanna try it with a Starbucks soy chai latte in your hand, but regular watches have similar issues on that front.

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    22. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shut the fuck up.

    23. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dealbreaker for me was the Android operating system.

    24. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure. Only lymie's have butt's even though they call them booms. It's in the costatution.

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    25. Re:Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It runs android...

    26. Re: Watch phones are nothing new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you're in luck, you just described the HOT Watch by PHTL, look it up. Only a few more days left to back!

  2. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...what about the battery? how long will it last?

    1. Re:But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's lunchtime now and i've go

  3. Refreshing by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Nothing like having the refreshing backplate of a smoldering hot CPU tied around your wrist.
    I hope it comes with a quick release mechanism.

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    1. Re:Refreshing by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It looks low end enough not to get particularly warm. Dual core A7 and 512MB RAM are not a lot.

      Battery life looks like more of an issue. The advantage of smart watches without their own phone functionality is that they can run for a week on a charge (the good ones anyway).

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    2. Re:Refreshing by Thanshin · · Score: 2

      A pocket watch would dissipate heat better and the chain could work as usb cable.

    3. Re:Refreshing by omatetruesmart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No worries about that, mate. We've been fiedtesting and none of our staff has been sent to the Emergency room for burn wounds lololol. On a more serious note, the CPU is the latest low power dual core 28nm processor. Low power, low heat (which is waste of energy) and that's good for battery life too.

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    4. Re:Refreshing by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      phone functionality is there when you need it. Otherwise, it's ALSO a smartwatch without phone functionality if you prefer :-) We designed TrueSmart to be best of both worlds.

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    5. Re:Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your wrist is liquid-cooled, calm down. If it had a way to conduct heat to the underside of your wrist and maintain contact, it could dump a lot of heat energy right into you without ever making you feel at all uncomfortable.

    6. Re:Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing like having the refreshing backplate of a smoldering hot CPU tied around your wrist.
      I hope it comes with a quick release mechanism.

      Just wait until the version comes out with a built in projection HD screen!.

    7. Re:Refreshing by NatasRevol · · Score: 2

      Lighten up, Francis.

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    8. Re:Refreshing by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 1

      It looks low end enough not to get particularly warm. Dual core A7 and 512MB RAM are not a lot.

      Battery life looks like more of an issue. The advantage of smart watches without their own phone functionality is that they can run for a week on a charge (the good ones anyway).

      Someone will figure a way to adapt the old "self winding" eccentric weight system to a charging component like a spring driven micro generator. The old self winding watches went to great lengths to prevent over-winding, and the amount of energy the watch collected and used was a lot less than what was actually available by collecting momentum from the users movements.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_watch

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    9. Re:Refreshing by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      For Christ's sake, if you want someone to take you seriously, never use the words "lololol" ever, ever. Ever.

      AC is right. If people online don't take you seriously, then... um... hmm...

      What's the advantage of slashdotters taking someone seriously? The article states that they have had a successful kickstarter, so they have convinced people to give money to them. Between people "taking me seriously" and people giving me money, I'd prefer the second. I don't take myself very seriously, nor does my ego depend on people (especially ones who have never met me thinking I'm not "a forty year old, divorced single mother secretary at the end of the hall who is desperately trying to stay relevant, or as a mentally challenged teenage girl who doesn't understand how to show emotion in text."

    10. Re:Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The name is Psycho. Any of you HOMOs calls me Francis, and I'll kill you.

    11. Re:Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Between people "taking me seriously" and people giving me money, I'd prefer the second

      After a while, one bleeds into the other. Are you willing to stake a bet on someone who acts incredibly immature? Or would you rather hand your money to someone who seems to know what the fuck they're doing?

    12. Re:Refreshing by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      "LOLOLOL" is not "incredibly immature."

    13. Re:Refreshing by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      Maybe it was supposed to be a "lol" with a tiny watchband around it?

    14. Re:Refreshing by camperdave · · Score: 1

      The power draw on a CPU, even a modest one, is a lot larger than that of a lightweight, near frictionless gear train.

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    15. Re:Refreshing by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Someone will figure a way to adapt the old "self winding" eccentric weight system to a charging component like a spring driven micro generator.

      I hear Seiko are working on something called a kinetic. I can't give any more details as I'm off to a Duran Duran concert.

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    16. Re:Refreshing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "LOLOLOL" is not "incredibly immature."

      Laughing Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud is redundant, regardless of maturity level.

  4. Old Technology by techno-vampire · · Score: 3, Funny

    There's nothing new here. Dick Tracy had one of these over sixty years ago.

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    1. Re:Old Technology by Assmasher · · Score: 1

      Anonymous Cowards are only pretend...

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  5. Heat by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I have what is now a quite low end phone, Galaxy Ace.

    That thing gets warm if you use it "intensively", i.e. play a game that maxes it out. It has a considerably larger area over which to dissipate heat. I wonder how this one does.

    Though I'm struggling to think of what would max out such a tiny device anyway. I can't see it running games or sitting there headless running a folding client.

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    1. Re:Heat by viperidaenz · · Score: 4, Informative

      The idea is probably that this watch device uses a newer SoC that requires less power.
      Your Galaxy Ace has a 65nm CPU. I dare say a brand new dual core Cortex A7 is built on something a little smaller. All of MediaTek's Cortex A7's with 3G support appear to be 28nm.

    2. Re:Heat by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You have the wrong idea. It's not about functionality. It's about making people envy you by the products you buy. Moreover, you identify yourself as well-off and on top of the latest trends. Why do you think the iPod came with easily-identifiable white earplugs? Even if you're dressed like a homeless person, with this device on your wrist nobody will actually mistake you for one.

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    3. Re:Heat by omatetruesmart · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can be assured there's no heat issues with the TrueSmart. Technology progresses and energy efficiency improves too - the processor is the latest low-power 28nm processor, low power and less heat generated (which is a waste of power actually). No problems here

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    4. Re:Heat by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1, Redundant

      EXACTLY, well said.

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    5. Re:Heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No problems here

      Where are they then? This sounds too good to be true...

    6. Re:Heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's running android.

    7. Re:Heat by stenvar · · Score: 1

      Technology gets more power efficient. Something as computationally powerful as your Galaxy Ace these days uses a lot less power and generates less heat.

    8. Re:Heat by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      On a tiny screen.

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    9. Re:Heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you want a game, you get a large smart phone.

      This is for people that don't want something in their pocket or on their belt.

      Even texting on it looks awkward.

      No one will be playing games on this, they will instead be using it mainly for phone calls.

    10. Re:Heat by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

      One thing I've noticed is that what seems to eat the most power on my phones is the "display" (it's never been clear to me how much of that battery-usage figure represents the actual screen and how much of that is the GPU, but whatever). This appears to have a comparatively tiny, relatively low-resolution display, which I'm guessing will limit how much power it can eat up (and as a result how much heat it will generate). Like you said, this doesn't seem like a device that's going to be tasked with really heavy workloads anyway, so heat generation ought not to be a major issue.

    11. Re:Heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure how much gamming your going to get done on this.

    12. Re:Heat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wear black headphones with my ipod, but the ipod itself is a nice device.

  6. Charging position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Placing the charging position in the high corrosion area against the skin seems like a bad idea.

    1. Re:Charging position by quantumphaze · · Score: 1

      Placing the charging position in the high corrosion area against the skin seems like a bad idea.

      Good point. I notice that the charging pins are indented to avoid direct contact with the skin, though whether that is enough to reduce corrosion I can not say. Arm hairs can still deposit corrosive oils.

      This would be great if it could use inductive charging instead. Coils in the wrist strap maybe?

    2. Re:Charging position by Camael · · Score: 1

      Corrosion, I think, would be less of a problem than the accumulated skin/gunk which will clog up the charging slot.

    3. Re:Charging position by omatetruesmart · · Score: 5, Informative

      These are special water-resistant connectors, so they are certainly made to handle corrosion! We have some inductive charging in our labs, tried various prototypes, couldn't get a satisfied design with enough charging surface for a meaningful charge and not end up with a huge watch, so we'll leave inductive charging to the next generation, hopefully with some advancements in inductive charging by then. By the way, the watch is designed strictly to watch sizes, a 45mm size, slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch.

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    4. Re:Charging position by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "These are special water-resistant connectors"

      Water resistance isn't the issue. Sweat is acidic. You need some serious protection to cope with that, and then you add resistance to the charging function.

  7. I want one by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    That's all I've got. A standalone device,,, very interesting. Depending on price and availability, I'd like one.

    Back in the nineties there was a watch that was a pager, and you could also get news headlines and stock reports on it. I wore mine 24 hours a day and got a skin infection... wait, too much information. Suffice it to say, I really liked that product and this one looks very interesting.

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    1. Re:I want one by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      I wore mine 24 hours a day and got a skin infection... wait, too much information.

      You got a skin infection from too much information? Hmm. Maybe that crusty orange lump isn't a cheeto...

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    2. Re:I want one by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I wore mine 24 hours a day and got a skin infection... wait, too much information.

      You got a skin infection from too much information? Hmm. Maybe that crusty orange lump isn't a cheeto...

      Cute. Dermatophytosis, if you must know. It happens sometimes when sweaty skin is kept covered for too long by something that doesn't breathe. The moral being, rubber watch straps aren't a good idea, and "take off your watch once in awhile".

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  8. What's the use of putting the phone inside? by sturle · · Score: 1

    What if I want a smart watch but no phone? Putting the phone inside the watch isn't going to help. I value my privacy, and don't want to walk around with an effective radiolocation beacon.

    1. Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you are a dangerous terrorist!

    2. Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? by omatetruesmart · · Score: 2

      You can use the TrueSmart as a smartwatch without the phone function - it is BOTH a companion to your phone AND a standalone. Don't put in a SIM card, it's a smartwatch, a truly smart one, Android 4.2.2 with full access to Google Play apps store (the first and only smartwatch with this). Has Bluetooth, Wifi which you can use to pair with your regular smartwatch or use it on its own.

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    3. Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? by Arker · · Score: 1

      Is there an easy way to completely remove the radio circuits, or physically disconnect them from any power leads?

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    4. Re:What's the use of putting the phone inside? by mspohr · · Score: 1

      This is a smartphone and a watch.
      It you don't want the smartphone part, then don't buy it. Buy something else (like a watch).
      (OTOH, you could try hitting it with a hammer or putting it in the microwave but these are not very precise methods and may not produce the intended results.)

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  9. Glass and Smart Watches by Tyr07 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've wanted something like this since I was a kid. Something incredibly useful, portable, does many functions, even phone calls, from a watch? Hell yeah I'll buy one. Someone mentioned heat and games. I don't want to play games on it. I want to text, make phone calls, maybe pictures / video, and get information on it. Like news or directions. It shouldn't heat up too much with that barring the video. Technology has been useful, and it has been convenient for the task it's replacing/performing. However it is rarely convenient to carry with you all the time. Priceless.

    1. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by Nyder · · Score: 1

      I've wanted something like this since I was a kid. Something incredibly useful, portable, does many functions, even phone calls, from a watch? Hell yeah I'll buy one.

      Someone mentioned heat and games. I don't want to play games on it.
      I want to text, make phone calls, maybe pictures / video, and get information on it. Like news or directions. It shouldn't heat up too much with that barring the
      video.

      Technology has been useful, and it has been convenient for the task it's replacing/performing. However it is rarely convenient to carry with you all the time.
      Priceless.

      Seriously? Remember texting on the old dumb phones? The ones with the small screens? Ya, you get the small screens with these "smart watches" . Hope the texting works for you, using 1 hand (after all, you aren't going to take the watch off to hold it in two hands to text, right?) on that small screen. Not even sure how you want to use it as a phone, hold it up to your ear? bluetooth headset? Did you even think this thru?

      I know this sound cool when we were kids (not sure when you were a kid, but they didn't even have them big ass brick cell phones when I was a kid. But now I'm not a kid, and I can see the value of a "smart" watch is very, very low.

      I stopped wearing my watch when I got a cell phone. Why? Because it's that convenient item that does it all that I can carry with me.

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    2. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by Tyr07 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I don't need a giant screen for simple text messages. If it's a large conversation worth that would be very difficult to type on one single small screen, I'd just call the person. I don't intend to write an email from it.

      Yes, I was imaging using a blue tooth device paired to it. I did think this through, you may not have.
      Ever use a speaker phone before? If it's an important quick call, it can be handy, ideally not used in areas where having a conversation
      on the phone where 3rd parties can hear the conversation is an issue. Say you're just out walking and buddy calls you. You can
      just pick it up, have a quick chat, where are you, oh, I'm here walking over to X store or whatever. Alright, meet you there.

      Personally I'd rather hold my arm up like looking at the time for a few seconds than a phone to my ear.
      Obviously for more private conversations you'd want to use your blue tooth device and be somewhere you're not disturbing people.
      Plus I think it would be quite convenient for reading quick text messages.

      What's also nice is that you can pair it with a phone if you need a bigger device for extended text messaging and other features.
      The real boon is having a display on your arm that is easy to look at, instead of digging your phone out to see who is calling or texting.


      My personal experience with my phone in my pocket or a case is it falling out, into water, or just on concrete. Getting scratched and damaged
      Or just pressure from being in pockets damaging the touch screen etc.

      Honestly until I saw this, my next phone was going to be as old styled as possible, hopefully no touch screen etc.
      My current phone is touch screen and it's going, but it doesn't do smart phone stuff, doesn't run android etc
      Means I don't facebook or do data from it, I charge it once every week or two weeks, I text and phone from it, and it works good.

      So maybe not for everyone, but for me, a functional stand alone watch phone would be great.

    3. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      I only use 1 hand to write text messages (the other is holding the phone) Swype is very effective at this. If the device is strapped to my arm, it's being held, and my other hand does the Swyping. There is one issue though, and it's something that nothing really can be done about it. It suffers the same issues that plague so many pieces of equipment, not left-hand friendly. I guess it can be overcome by wearing the watch on the right arm, but that feels unnatural.

      Either way, I'm certain it takes voice commands so you can dictate messages to it.

    4. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just die. Caggies are deviants anyway.

    5. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      Nice, glad you like it!!! Come join us on Google+, we've got a Omate TrueSmart & GLASS community going on! https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/104860063598575161591/communities/111599684337254042909

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    6. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      TrueSmart ships with a special Keyboard enhancer, from a reputable onscreen keyboard most people are familiar with. In addition to the Keyboard enhancer, there's Voice-to-text, Swipe Gestures, Gesture Control... a combination of user input methods. It's a new thing not to be compared with smartphones, not meant to replace smartphone but rather move forward. Not trying to change your mind now, but hope you will keep an open mind. Afterall when typing with an on screen keyboard was first introduced, many people said it would not take off (remember Blackberry?)

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    7. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      Very well put, we couldn't have said it better! It's a new use, not to be compared with phones.

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    8. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by bazorg · · Score: 1

      How about strapping a normal smartphone to your wrist? I tried it with elastic bands just for a laugh.

    9. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      You won't text on it, that's so last century. You'll talk to it, and it will send text. Standard Android speech-to-text is very good these days.

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    10. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by camperdave · · Score: 1

      I only use 1 hand to write text messages (the other is holding the phone) Swype is very effective at this. If the device is strapped to my arm, it's being held, and my other hand does the Swyping. There is one issue though, and it's something that nothing really can be done about it. It suffers the same issues that plague so many pieces of equipment, not left-hand friendly. I guess it can be overcome by wearing the watch on the right arm, but that feels unnatural.

      Either way, I'm certain it takes voice commands so you can dictate messages to it.

      MessagEase might be better, considering the limited space.

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    11. Re:Glass and Smart Watches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i've always wanted a watch phone as well (no more phone in my pocket) but you don't need a bluetooth headset, you just put the microphone and speaker on the bottom of the watch band (so it's on the bottom of you're wrist) then when you get a call just hold you're wrist to you're ear (super easy).

  10. Knight Rider by Freultwah · · Score: 1

    So, watches like this with Google's operating system combined with Google's self driving cars... I want to call my KITT now, thank you.

    1. Re:Knight Rider by aliquis · · Score: 1

      I also want to get a new one after each jump! :D

      Instant 3D printing on the spot! No need to get out!

    2. Re:Knight Rider by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      For the Omate TrueSmart launch party, we'll be getting Michael Knight (and KITT of course), Dick Tracey and James Bond :-)

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  11. Question: by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1

    how do I talk over this thing?

    Is it James Bond or Dick Tracy like, with my left arm riased & talking to watch & looking as if in some sort of conspiration?

    Well, I still might like it. Pondering whether to order one or not...

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    1. Re:Question: by Tukz · · Score: 1

      Bluetooth earpiece or similar.

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    2. Re:Question: by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      From the Article:

      600mAH battery
      Multi-touch Capacitive Touch Screen at 1.54 inches
      Color display of 240×240 resolution
      Bluetooth 4.0, Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n
      3G WCDMA : HSPA 7.2Mbps / 5.76Mbps

      I'm guessing a bluetooth headset

    3. Re:Question: by omatetruesmart · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can indeed talk into the TrueSmart like James Bond, Dick Tracey and Michael Knight (KITT) :-)) There's a water-resistant speaker / mic built-in. A bluetooth headset can be used too. Texting (special enhanced onscreen keyboard + swipes) is an alternative. Perfect for those quick and short messages like "OK I'll be there", "I miss you too", "What are you doing Saturday"... audio or text :-)

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    4. Re:Question: by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 2

      wow, you registered on slashdot, just after these news appeared on front page.

      What can you tell about battery life & daily usage & charging? 100hr is a mere 4 days.

      How is it supposed to work on day to day: whenever I get home, I take off the watch, put it on my desk and connect to the charger?
      What if I want to spend 2 weeks in mountains?
      Can I charge in a car?
      What about travelling & battery consumption - I discovered that while in my current (crappy) phone battery lasts about 3 days, it lasts only 6 to 8 hours while I am travelling by car across my country - it must be due to constant seeking&switching of phone cell towers. How does the smartwatch cope with that?
      Is it possible to carry around some extra batteries (to spend 2 weeks in mountains, you know :)

      Some other points you want to make about battery?

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    5. Re:Question: by Arker · · Score: 1

      Very good questions. In my experience, smartphones cope very poorly in areas that lack dense cellular coverage (ie rural areas - most of the US and most of the world.) It seems the people designing them simply cannot get their heads around the fact that people exist outside of built up urban areas.

      So you get a device designed with just adequate battery life, but also designed around assumptions that do not actually hold true in the environment as well - so the thing wastes power constantly seeking and losing signals, beeping frantically (on some phones it is even impossible to disable that beep!) while draining that battery faster and faster until you just turn it off.

      It's a shame, because all the capabilities are there for something I would find useful, but just enough stuff is always baked into hardware or closed drivers where I cannot even conceivably change them to screw it all up.

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    6. Re:Question: by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      We can only agree with you that smartphones these days don't have the battery life that their predecessors had. Of course, the two can really not be compared with one another, however we too have smartphones that run out of battery before the day runs out of sunshine. For our smart watch we have chosen the right technical components to allow you to get through the day enjoying all that the watch has to offer. And when recharging on your night stand it can act as your night light, alarm clock or wake up light. TrueSmart comes with a charging USB cable, so you can hook it up to charging adapters in the car, at home, on your computer or tablet. When it comes to two week hiking trips you could bring along on of those portable batteries with USB outputs. Those have become pretty popular and come in very handy.

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    7. Re:Question: by triffid_98 · · Score: 1

      I don't know about your alleged smartphone(s), but I can turn cell-data off with one click. Problem solved.

      If there's no tower coverage period, airplane mode is 2 clicks away.

    8. Re:Question: by Arker · · Score: 1

      Airplane mode is indeed the only solution, but it's a procrustean solution at best because it turns off wifi and bluetooth as well. It's quite annoying to be sitting here with a fairly decent fibre connection and a perfectly good wireless router but unable to use them without also enabling the pointless waste of battery power called a CDMA transceiver.

      The cellphone towers here provide reasonable coverage for old dumb phones with large antennas, with a smartphone you tend to find areas where you have 3 or 4 signals the phone can 'see' just well enough that it will keep maxing up transmit power and trying to reach them in turn until it dies.

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    9. Re:Question: by triffid_98 · · Score: 1

      I guess my old 'dumb phones' sucked balls then, because I honestly can't tell much difference. Yes there's no stubby antenna sticking out of most smartphones but the gain seems quite similar based on my previous phones (LG and Nokia, both CDMA).

      Battery life in general is much poorer on a smartphone but even with spotty coverage (1-2 bars) my phone is good for a day of heavy usage. If I use it like a dumb phone, several days. This shouldn't surprise you, fancy processors and giant screens use battery. If you leave data on, that can use a LOT of battery in really spotty areas.

      Perhaps you should try a different phone, ideally one that can accept an extended battery? Plenty of them have that option, provided you don't demand it be white and have a piece of fruit on the logo.

    10. Re:Question: by Arker · · Score: 1

      The older cellphones often have no better antenna, this is true, but certain models did and people in this area learned quickly to favor them. I dont see any newer smart phones coming out with this feature.

      It makes no sense to add an extended battery to keep driving hardware that I dont want turned on in the first place. I am waiting for a device that isnt so poorly designed in the first place - I wasted enough money on this crap already so if they want my money at this point the onus is on them. I doubt they will, but I can live without it, so I will.

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  12. Battery... by Edis+Krad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hope it comes with its own hand-crank, because I find it hard to believe that is going to hold a charge past 60 minutes...

    1. Re:Battery... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      I sometimes wonder why they are putting high-end hardware in these watches when there isn't enough space for a large battery. This has 600mAH, not much for an Android phone. Something like the Nokia 100 can run for a month on 800mAH by omitting all the bells and whistles I think you would rarely use on a keyboard-less 1.54'' screen watch phone anyway, and just being a phone.

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    2. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just make the screen turn off after 30 seconds. After all, nobody minds having to press a button whenever they want to check the time.
      Truly, the perfect accessory that we ape-descended lifeforms (who are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea) have been waiting for.

    3. Re:Battery... by ncohafmuta · · Score: 2

      The screen is 1/3 the size of a high-end smartphone. The resolution is 1/4 that of a high-end smartphone. The battery is 1/4 that of a high-end smartphone. Sounds fine.

    4. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Current smartphones rarely last more than a day. Doesn't sound fine at all for a watch.

    5. Re:Battery... by Bert64 · · Score: 1

      Well most people don't need more than 1 day worth of battery, when you go to bed you take the device off and attach it to a charger next to your bed...

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    6. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may be a weird question to pose to slashdotters but, what if you're not in your bed?

      These things need multi-day capable batteries (even if that mean a low power, reduced capability mode).

      3-7days to get you through a weekend at the minimum. ... oh that's right, we can just carry another charger about *sigh*.

    7. Re:Battery... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1

      Or how about maybe an old-school low-power always-on grey-scale reflective LCD, sunlight readable - like digital watches have been using forever.

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    8. Re:Battery... by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      Hah 60 minutes that's barely a challenge with the technology these days. Standby time is 100 hours. We're field testing active usage times now and should cover this topic in our video blogs later this week. Without batting an eyelid, it's gonna be way more than 60 minutes for sure! :-) We're talking the latest low-power energy efficient processors, not something from a couple years back.

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    9. Re:Battery... by omatetruesmart · · Score: 2

      It depends on how you use the TrueSmart. Say if you use as a standby for that important message esp. when you don't want to or cannot bring your smartphone (swimming, jogging, day at the beach), and still want to be notified say when that girl / guy (or boss / client) finally replies your message. You could go standby for up to 100 hours. We are certainly not suggesting to replace your regular smartphone with TrueSmart, more of a complement and extension.

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    10. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A use case predicated on constantly swapping SIM cards between devices doesn't seem very practical.

    11. Re:Battery... by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1

      What can you tell about battery life & daily usage & charging? 100hr is a mere 4 days.

      1) How is it supposed to work on day to day: whenever I get home, I take off the watch, put it on my desk and connect to the charger?
      2) What if I want to spend 2 weeks in mountains?
      3) Can I charge in a car?
      4) What about travelling & battery consumption - I discovered that while in my current (crappy) phone battery lasts about 3 days, it lasts only 6 to 8 hours while I am travelling by car across my country - it must be due to constant seeking&switching of phone cell towers. How does the smartwatch cope with that?
      5) Is it possible to carry around some extra batteries (to spend 2 weeks in mountains, you know :)

      Some other points you want to make about battery?

      PS: reposting this question in a battery thread

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    12. Re:Battery... by ncohafmuta · · Score: 1

      that's because it's not a watch in the sense you're talking about and trying to compare. if you want something that lasts 30+ days, buy a timex. if you want to wear a computer and have it last that long then you'll have to take your time machine 20 yrs into the future where battery tech is that advanced.

    13. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? Smartphone chargers are standardized. When people sleep over my place, I often get requests for a charger. I actually have spares for that reason (also makes packing chargers for traveling easier). I don't know if the watch can charge off micro-USB though; the article has a photo with some visible contacts for what might be a proprietary charging connector/dock, but it also shows a covered area which might just be for the SIM/microSD.

    14. Re:Battery... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But does that "standby" include keeping the time (maybe + notifications) on the screen all the time? I'm positively not interested in a watch where I can't just glance at the time and would have to click something to have it displayed.

    15. Re:Battery... by mspohr · · Score: 1

      Most of the battery drain in a smartphone comes from the display back light and the fact that this has a very small display (about 2.3 sq.in.compared to about 8 sq. in. for many smartphones) should mean that there will be a very small battery drain for the display.

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  13. Rather useless by Cyfun · · Score: 2

    Pro's:
    1) Its small size can be convenient in an era of bulky phones.
    2) Attached to your body, it will theoretically be harder to lose it or let it get stolen.

    Con's:
    1) The screen is going to be too small to be very usable.
    2) Battery life will likely suck since it is also too small.
    3) With such a small screen, will be difficult to use, and you won't get many buttons, if any.
    4) You can only use it one-handed.
    5) The screen will probably get scratched to fuck since it sticks out from your wrist, and will probably stick out farther than your average watch.
    6) Hot battery may get uncomfortable.

    IMHO, smart watches are a great idea, but only as a bluetooth device for alerting you to new messages, calls and emails; using as a microphone Dick Tracy-style, and of course for checking the time. As a full-fledged smartphone, though, they're far too small to be that useful, but they might be decent as more of a dumb-phone for only making calls and such.

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  14. Pocket version, please by trumpetplayer · · Score: 1

    I'd be very interested in a pocket version (that's with no bracelet). I have thin wrists and tend to wear small, light watches or no watch at all. But since all I use to carry stuff around when I leave the house is my pockets (I never carry purses or bags), I like to take very little with me (typically small wallet + key ring + phone), and reducing the phone size by a factor of 4 or 5 would make it a lot more comfortable in my pocket.

    1. Re:Pocket version, please by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      What is your wrist size? We designed the TrueSmart to look like a watch and feel like a watch, according to watch sizes. It's watch face is 45mm, slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch. Tell us your wrist size (width and if possible also circumference) we'll check that out and reply.

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  15. Too ugly by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1, Insightful

    ...like all digital watches without hands. Sorry, 'smart watches' will never be relevant for anyone but a few geeks without taste.

    1. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't know shit about taste. You use absolutes and simple rules without understanding why.
      The amount of hands on the watch is irrelevant and historically people who say 'never' have always ended up looking like fools.

      This watch might not be great, but none of the reasons you named are valid.

    2. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You don't know shit about taste.

      Yes I do - regarding watches, at least.

      The amount of hands on the watch is irrelevant

      You're wrong, presumably because you have no taste. There is not a single watch on earth without hands that looks even presentable, let alone good.

      historically people who say 'never' have always ended up looking like fools

      You're wrong about that one, too. It only looks that way because of selective apprehension.

    3. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is not a single watch on earth without hands that looks even presentable, let alone good.

      That's just your opinion. The Casio F-91W is regarded by many as a modern design classic.

    4. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Isn't that the watch that automatically makes you a terrorist if you're caught wearing it in the Middle East?

    5. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Folks that are most definitely not geeks absolutely love the looks of my pebble (the text watchface is well liked, for example), even a watch nerd that I know (and I am something of one myself) loves it. I agree that casios,etc, are pretty ugly. But like the GP says, you are talking out your ass about taste. Welcome to the 21st century my friend, where things like eink screens can make even a smartwatch look nice (and in fact, significantly nicer than some blingy rolex or many other overwrought "fine" watches).

      toodles

    6. Re:Too ugly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      LOL. Sorry, no amount of posterior rationalization will turn your shitty pebble into gold.

      However, there is good news for you guys (who seem quite desparate to sell their 'smart watches'): Just because your watches look like shit doesn't mean people won't buy them! On the contrary, if you advertise them enough, people will buy them happily at four, even ten times the manufacturing costs.

      So: No need to get angry at people with good taste who are in the minority anyway!

  16. the crucial problem with this product by jkg2 · · Score: 0

    I think the developer and many others are missing the crucial problem with this product and with this type of idea in general: interacting with a watch that does anything more than tell the time and date makes the wearer appear to be a giant dork. This has not changed since the days of the early 80s calculator watch; any consumer foolish enough to bring attention to their “cool watch” is immediately singled out as a dork, nerd, geek, or generally friendless loner/brainiac type. Don’t even get me started on TALKING into your watch.

    1. Re: the crucial problem with this product by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Funny

      any consumer foolish enough to bring attention to their âoecool watchâ is immediately singled out as a dork, nerd, geek, or generally friendless loner/brainiac type.

      Fortunately, anyone who can afford this watch has left school and is now in the "real world". At that point you can cease to care, tell the other person to fuck off, or call the police if they get violent.

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    2. Re: the crucial problem with this product by omatetruesmart · · Score: 2

      It's not a must to talk into your Smartwatch if you prefer not to. You can simply use it for notifications, urgent messages. I do remember a time too when using a mobile phone in public was considered "rude" and frowned upon. Not trying to change your mind, it's something personal, we understand that. Just hoping you would keep an open mind and "watch" this new thing :-)

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    3. Re: the crucial problem with this product by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 1

      p>Fortunately, anyone who can afford this watch has left school and is now in the "real world". At that point you can cease to care, tell the other person to fuck off, or call the police if they get violent.

      WTH are you doing with your "cool" watch that gets the man on the street to assault you?

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    4. Re: the crucial problem with this product by jittles · · Score: 1

      I think the developer and many others are missing the crucial problem with this product and with this type of idea in general: interacting with a watch that does anything more than tell the time and date makes the wearer appear to be a giant dork. This has not changed since the days of the early 80s calculator watch; any consumer foolish enough to bring attention to their “cool watch” is immediately singled out as a dork, nerd, geek, or generally friendless loner/brainiac type. Don’t even get me started on TALKING into your watch.

      Dick Tracy talked to his watch, and I am pretty sure that James Bond and Maxwell Smart both had talking watches. But my memory could be misinforming me this morning. Not that I would get one. I love analog watches.

    5. Re: the crucial problem with this product by jittles · · Score: 1

      I do remember a time too when using a mobile phone in public was considered "rude" and frowned upon.

      It is still rude, and frowned upon in many places. I don't care if you talk on your phone while walking down the street, but in a restaurant, movie theater, waiting room, airplane, elevator, while in the grocery checkout line, and other places, I will consider you to be rather uncouth.

    6. Re: the crucial problem with this product by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

      WTH are you doing with your "cool" watch that gets the man on the street to assault you?

      Nothing. But if you read the GP's post he seemed to be assuming that real life was like high school. It isn't in many ways, not limited to that people who assult for things like wearing a techy wacth wind up in prison, rather than on a sports team or whatever.

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    7. Re: the crucial problem with this product by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      James Bond also is an attractive secret agent with a shitton of 'swag' who runs around in tailored suits beating up bad guys, saving the world, taking occasional time off to bed the hottest women around and cruise in his vintage Aston Martin. In short, the average audience that would be attracted to this watch, enough to buy and wear it, has nothing at all in common with Mr. Bond.

  17. Knowing what a battery hog Android is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...on a smartphone, this watch sounds like a very, very annoying story waiting to be told. I suspect this "watch" will need recharging at least once per day. Seriously, Android for a watch... what a lousy idea.

  18. The right direction by DeBaas · · Score: 2

    Since 'smart watches' were introduced I've personally believed that they were doing it the wrong way around. I'd rather have a watch that has radio and can do the basics (call/text) and have a mini tablet that tethers with the watch for it's connection.

    Now for me for this to become really interesting they'd have to:
    - waterproof them
    - partner with the better watch maker brands to make the watches look like 'normal watches' (for texting they could use the divers ring as an input device, just turn to right letter and press)
    - include car opening remote control (why not)
    - include a mini Bluetooth receiver that you can 'un-click' from the watch and hold close to your ear to make the calls less ''knight rider calls kitt'

    Great for going to the beach. No longer have to worry about your keys, phone when taking a swim. And no longer a need to carry your phone around all the time as it is around your wrist. There are many occasions I'd rather leave my smartphone at home or in my desk as long as I still can be reached

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    1. Re:The right direction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      seems that TruSmart responds quite quickly to questions it wants to answer but nowhere is there a response to the battery life! It reminds me of my time in Thailand, as soon as you had an issue with a good or service, they would forget how to speak english, which they were speaking perfectly before the conflict.

    2. Re:The right direction by omatetruesmart · · Score: 2

      Cool, a watch indeed is a very personal thing since it is something you wear rather than put in the pocket. We have kept very strictly to watch designs, going for a look that looks and feels like a watch. We've kept the size at 45mm, according to watch sizes, that's slightly larger than a dress watch, smaller than a sports watch. Omate Truesmart: - is waterproof - you can text on the screen itself (using a combination of special onscreen keyboard enhancer included, voice-to-text, swipe gestures, gesture controls) - you can call with it (built-in water-resistant speaker / mic) - you can connect Bluetooth devices (bluetooth headsets, bluetooth keyboards etc), if that's your preference So in a sense we are close to your idea of a Smartwatch other than these (which although not included in the shipped package, can be achieved too): - for texting they could use the divers ring as an input device : we've got a supporter on our Google+ community who is exactly going to do that, make a ring that can be connected to the TrueSmart via bluetooth - car opening remote control (why not) : yes why not, that's the spirit!! :-) some after-market car remotes uses Wifi, that's absolutely possible, or add a simple Wifi-to-RF controller device (available in the market) and voila, control it from TrueSmart watch Close, pretty close :-)

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    3. Re:The right direction by DeBaas · · Score: 1

      Nice :-) I'll be following this

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  19. Another kickstarter project... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... that will amount to nothing! I'm so excited.

    Has there been a single real, successful business out of kickstarter? kickstarter is to business as starbucks is to novel writing.

  20. Re:Old Technology - Michael Knight by umafuckit · · Score: 1

    Michael Knight also did (http://media.joe.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Michael-Knight.jpg) AND he had awesome hair.

  21. Re:Old Technology - Michael Knight by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

    and James Bond, awesome hair and a British accent ;) So for the perfect Omate TrueSmart launch party, we're getting Dick Tracey, Michael Knight (and KITT of course) and James Bond !! :-)

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  22. The smart wearable device fad will come and go, like it has in the past. I don't see much point in trying to cram technology into something with a small screen, it just not practical for much more than telling time and wireless communication to a headset. And do I need to start wearing smart glasses to pair with my smartwatch and then wave my hands in the air or talk to myself like a crazy person to get things done.

    The Smart Watch and Glasses fad will probably be the most annoying technical meme in the history of mankind. I don't look forward to a bunch of crazed hipster sociopaths wandering the streets aimlessly trying to Tweet and update Facebook using these things. I mean the only difference between these Glass and Watch wearing hipsters and zombies is that zombies are driven by a sense of purpose.

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  23. Try checking dealextreme, chinavasion, etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A bunch of the chinese dropship sites have them, ranging from the aforementioned bluetooth only models, to non-android smartphones, to android smartphones (I think I've seen three different models, all running MTK chipsets in the 400mhz to 800mhz processor range, with 128-512 megs of ram.)

    Most of them consist of a 300mAh removable battery, a 0.3MP camera, bluetooth, wifi, and quad band gsm (but not 3g/4g support!), and a small 1-2 inch (generally) resistive or capacitive touchscreen, ranging from 128x128 to 256x128 (specs taken from memory.)

    Basically, I'm not holding my breath for this new device because much like the aforementioned it is going to have a serious issue with battery life making this nothing more than a gimmick as either a watch, android device, or cellular phone.

    Honestly the bluetooth/watch combos make more sense since they generally get at least 12 hours of talk time, better fit the formfactor of a watch (all but one of the models I've seen are the oversized rectangle formfactor some company was touting a few years back for an android watch-phone.).

  24. useless by sribe · · Score: 1

    Unless it's tethered to a battery in your pocket that is ;-) Because otherwise battery life is going to make this useless as a phone.

  25. Improvements by ntropia · · Score: 1

    Can't wait for having to remember to recharge my watch every night (instead of every couple of years, as I do now)

    1. Re: Improvements by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

      The more intensely we use our electronics, the more we demand from their batteries. Phones, tablets, electric vehicles... But how much of a hassle is it really to hook it up to a charger on your night stand?

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    2. Re: Improvements by Janek+Kozicki · · Score: 1

      Hi, another question. How is it going to work as an actual watch? You know, with a regular watch I just take a short glance at it (regardless of current lighting conditions, unless it's very dark) and I immediately know what time is it. Will I be able to check the time without using other hand to touch the watch to light up the display? Will I be able to check time in direct sunlight?

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  26. interesting by Tom · · Score: 2

    It's been almost 20 years since I last wore a wrist-watch. This or something like it might actually make me do it again. I find it increasingly irritating to dig out my iPhone just to check the time.

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  27. Re:Old Technology - Michael Knight by zlives · · Score: 1

    I always did prefer my carr watch, o wait i mean KITT watch

  28. surely the only TRUE Smart phone would be... by spike1 · · Score: 1

    The shoe phone as used by Maxwell Smart...

  29. You summed up why smart watches are dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You still need a phone to do all but the most trivial things, none of which will actually be easier on a watch-phone.

    Which is why this product is (one of?) the first to stand alone, rather than working as an extension of another phone -- the other phone is still necessary.

    Oh, and buying two voice/text(/data?) plans -- yeah, right.

    1. Re:You summed up why smart watches are dumb by Tyr07 · · Score: 1

      I summed up why I would want one. I personally don't want and or need a smart phone.

      Maybe for you, you shouldn't get a stand alone one if you were going to get two data plans, and just one phone with a smart watch addon
      Or not get one at all, since I don't think it works for you. You probably need to check your facebook every five minutes to make sure everyone
      still thinks you're cool.

      . I also said for those who did need a smart phone, the screen on your wrist could be handy to see if you even want to answer a call etc, without pulling
      out your phone. The rest of us who only need to really use it for communication and display light information it's great.

  30. What it really is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... is an iPad case with a wristband.

  31. Benefits of a smart watch by omatetruesmart · · Score: 1

    Thank you all so far for the comments. There is a nice mix of sceptics and fans in discussion and that's what communities are all about. We are respect all you comments, it actually helps us develop the product in the final stages. Of course we understand smart watches are not for everyone and by no means do we want to imply that it will replace the smartphone. We love our smartphones too, but we can think of many scenario's where we would be more comfortable leaving the phone at home. For example, and I'm not just making this up to make a point, I often go mountainbiking my phone is always in my pocket with the risk of losing it or dropping it in a puddle of mud. I use the GPS to find my way and keep track of the progress, take pictures here and there, and want to be able to keep in touch with friends/home. I'd absolutely love to leave my phone safely at home and just bring the TrueSmart either on my wrist or on its handlebar clamp. There are many other activities where you'd benefit from having access to particular apps on your wrist instead of on your phone.

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    1. Re:Benefits of a smart watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since the watch is waterproof, it would be very useful to know what are the practical limits of its waterproofness. Is it usable in salty water? I am a windsurfer, and I have been looking for a similar device for quite some time. Do you think this watch can survive a smash into salty water with 50 km/h speed (30 miles/h)? Is it possible to make a call while the watch is wet (I am not kidding, if you need help a mile or two out in the sea, there often is reception, so such a device can be of great help).

      In general, such a device will be very tempting to use in various sports with more or less extreme conditions - water sports like (wind) surfing, swimming, or mountain sports like skiing. It will be very useful if Omate could specify what are the acceptable temperature and pressure limits, how this watch should be cleaned once it gets dirty or salty.

  32. I'm waiting... by Meski · · Score: 1

    For a watch that doesn't require watch hardware. IOW, a bluetooth implant.

  33. So how precise will it be? by Hentes · · Score: 1

    Because if it's as imprecise as phones then it's useless as a watch.

    1. Re:So how precise will it be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What? Any phone with GPS enabled is going to be accurate to a few nanoseconds. That's far more accurate than literally any mechanical watch.