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Why We Need to Keep Our Night Skies Dark (Video)

Kelly Beatty has a unique perspective on the world of astronomy: Beatty's been on the staff of Sky & Telescope magazine for nearly 40 years as a writer and editor, including a stint heading "Night Sky" magazine. He's also written what's been called "the definitive guide for the armchair astronomer," and teaches astronomy to people of all ages. (He even has an asteroid named after him.) Besides being fascinated with the objects we can see in Earth's skies, Beatty takes the skies themselves seriously: his Twitter handle is NightSkyGuy for a reason. We talked a few weeks ago, in dark-skied rural Maine, about his involvement with the International Dark-Sky Association, and why you should care about ubiquitous light pollution, even if you don't have a deep interest in star-gazing. (And it's not just to be courteous to your neighbors.)

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  1. As a photographer by Gagek · · Score: 3, Insightful

    We need to help be able to see the galaxy. I enjoyed as a kid. Now as a photographer for Impostor Magazine shooting fashion, this makes me miss the good old days!

  2. Re:Need Light For Security by PlastikMissle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Have you at least read the transcript? He isn't advocating the removal of night lighting. He's advocating LED lights that are focused downwards, which would not only help with the light pollution problem but is more efficient energy wise.

  3. Happiness by EmperorOfCanada · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't think that I have ever met a person who, when away from the city lights, didn't marvel at the grand display overhead. I also don't think that I have ever met a person who upon re-entering a built up area ever said, "I'm glad those twinkling stars have finely gone away."

    To be even more specific the darker it has been the more people have always marveled. When you can see our galaxy edge on in all its glory then the whole experience becomes just that much better.

    But for some reason we don't fight the big box stores when they blast a megawatt or two into the completely unused corners of their lots. Or the car dealerships that seem to want to keep their cars warm with the lighting; not to mention the dealers that then use the skyward spotlights to announce that their salesmen are like the gods of Olympus.

    Obviously some lighting is necessary but I would love to see some requirements for intelligent lighting. Lights that take into account that there is nobody needing their services and thus they can turn off. I suspect that at 2 in the morning all but the most populated areas would be quite dark. Plus the added bonus of reduced energy costs.

  4. Re:Need Light For Security by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yeah, I'm one of those people who never understood the lack of lampshades on our streetlights. There is no reason shine any light above the horizon, except to illuminate the buildings, and most of them, you don't want to see.

    You know what else travels far, the noise. You can hear a city from 10-20 miles away.

    And the RF, well..

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  5. Re:Need Light For Security by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There's not even much reason to shine light at the horizon - all that gets you is a bunch of night-vision destroying bright points in the distance. Light falls off with the inverse square of distance, and beyond a short range it no longer provides anywhere near enough power for our eyes to use. Ideally we would figure out how far from the light you can get before it ceases to be useful, and shield the light so that you can't see it directly from much beyond that distance. That would actually *improve* effective illumination since you wouldn't have all these bright point sources in the distance blinding you to everything within several degrees of them around them.

    Can't tell you how many times I've driven into town at night and cussed out the light-lined streets that make it impossible to see anything.

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  6. Re:You don't need light security. by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So the alternative is that the bad guy remains hidden in the dark while the victim holds the flashlight?

    Night lighting is only partly for that type of security. It is more for people to see where they are walking, negotiate stairs, ramps,,, to see where they dropped their keys, etc.

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  7. Re:But I like cities by Charliemopps · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You mean drunken night-time culture. Visit nearly any rural area on earth and you'll find vastly different cultures in nearly every place. Visit any bustling city at 11pm and you'll find the same drunken assholes in all of them.

  8. Re:Holiday by gawbl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I agree, but this is very unlikely. The local streetlights (San Jose CA) are wired directly into the local power grid, without benefit of meters. The only switches are the light detectors on each streetlamp. There is no "off switch", anywhere.The city has a deal with the local power company (Pacific Gas & Electric); they pay a flat fee per month for all the streetlamps in the city.