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Intel Plans 'Overclocking' Capability On SSDs

Lucas123 writes "Anticipating it will make a 'big splash,' Intel is planning to release an product late this year or very early next that will allow users to 'overclock' solid-state drives. The overclocking capability is expected to allow users to tweak the percentage of an SSD's capacity that's used for data compression. At its Intel Developers Forum next month in San Francisco, Intel has scheduled an information session on overclocking SSDs. The IDF session is aimed at system manufacturers and developers as well as do-it-yourself enthusiasts, such as gamers. 'We've debated how people would use it. I think the cool factor is somewhat high on this, but we don't see it changing the macro-level environment. But, as far as being a trendsetter, it has potential,' said Intel spokesman Alan Frost. Michael Yang, a principal analyst with IHS Research, said the product Intel plans to release could be the next evolution of SandForce controller, 'user definable and [with the] ability to allocate specified size on the SSD. Interesting, but we will have to see how much performance and capacity [it has] over existing solutions,' Yang said in an email reply to Computerworld."

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  1. Awsome by ciderbrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Time to make some watercooling blocks and special fans and make money from those with too much.

    1. Re:Awsome by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      Time to make some watercooling blocks and special fans and make money from those with too much.

      Wow! That would be Overclocked!

      Years ago I could buy a cheap overclocked machine and play any overclocked game I could find. Nowadays, it's not so easy. You need an overclocked watercooling block and overclocked fans.

      I only hope MS overclock their efforts and manage to get an overclocking product in time. I'd be very underclocked otherwise.

    2. Re:Awsome by dj245 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Doesn't mean that "gamers" won't buy this stuff... People are stupid when it comes to buying components. Only have 1 video card? Not overclocking your CPU? Only one hard drive? Yeah let's just get this 750W supply just in case.

      A 750W power supply isn't that ridiculous. I had a system with 2 hard drives, a mid-level medium-power video card, and a dual-core processor (45W TDP). It had a 450W power supply from a reputable brand, which should have been more than plenty. However, when I switched out the processor to a 6-core one with a 95W TDP, stability went out the window. No overclocking, all BIOS settings on "safe", but it would freeze about every 30 minutes or so. I was going crazy trying to figure it out. I reformatted Windows, but no good. It was crashing using some Linux CD diagnostics tools so it had nothing to do with the software. I even RMA'd the CPU and got a new one.

      Eventually I bought a new 550W power supply and all the problems went away. Maybe the "reputable brand" of my 450W power supply wasn't actually reputable, or maybe some element inside had degraded over time, but power supply problems are the most frustrating kinds of problems to solve if you are assuming that X watts should be enough. I'm not made of money, but I'm going to buy the best power supply I can afford in the future.

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    3. Re:Awsome by David_Hart · · Score: 2

      Doesn't mean that "gamers" won't buy this stuff... People are stupid when it comes to buying components. Only have 1 video card? Not overclocking your CPU? Only one hard drive? Yeah let's just get this 750W supply just in case.

      A 750W power supply isn't that ridiculous. Eventually I bought a new 550W power supply and all the problems went away. Maybe the "reputable brand" of my 450W power supply wasn't actually reputable, or maybe some element inside had degraded over time, but power supply problems are the most frustrating kinds of problems to solve if you are assuming that X watts should be enough. I'm not made of money, but I'm going to buy the best power supply I can afford in the future.

      Since when is a $70 to $90 part considered a luxury high-end part? If you has said a $300 water-cooler, I would have agreed with you.

      I'll grant you that for a single CPU system with a single hard-drive that a 750W power supply is overkill. However, you need to remember that cheap PSUs do not always provide the power that they are rated at, having a larger PSU provides room for expansion, and having a larger PSU doesn't usually use any more energy as you are drawing the power that the system requires (not the full capability of the PSU) and efficiency is fairly even across different sized PSUs.

      I have an 850W power supply. I have a single i7 CPU but I have two high end graphics cards, 6 hard-drives, a PCI Soundblaster card, and a PCI RAID card. Right now, my system is using 225W because it is basically idling while I type but the power usage goes up pretty quickly when playing Far Cry 3.

      If you want to find out what you should have for a power supply, check this out: http://www.extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

    4. Re:Awsome by gigaherz · · Score: 2

      A power supply is its most efficient at around 50% usage. So if you take the time to measure the average power usage of your system you can buy a PSU that's approximately 2x the average, or 25% more than the peak, whichever is higher.

      My system takes around 100w idle, or 250w on load, with peaks never going over 300w. so a 400w PSU would be more than enough for my usage patterns. Yet I have a 850w PSU simply because it was the one PSU they had in stock in the store I buy from, when the old one broke. The old one was 650W, and it was also more than enough for my needs.

    5. Re:Awsome by toddestan · · Score: 2

      Some "reputable" brands I have found to be overrated. But even the "best" will produce a dud now and then.

      However, I will say my old Athlon XP box, three HDDs, two optical drives, two video cards, several other PCI cards (2nd network, firewire, SATA), kewl case lights, and too many fans was perfectly fine for years on a 380W power supply. And last time I checked, still happily boots up. 180W was probably overkill as about the most I ever measured at the wall with a Kill-a-watt was about 185W (it "idled" at around 150W by the way).

  2. Sandforce... by Knuckx · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So, what Intel are saying, is that they are going to take a SSD controller with unstable, buggy firmware - and then add a feature that allows users to modify the internal constants the firmware uses to do it's job. This can only end very badly, unless Intel and Sandforce do some serious testing to find and fix the data corruption issues, the problems with the drive ignoring the host, and the problems where the drive gets stuck in busy.

    (all problems detailed in this post have been experienced with an Intel branded, Sandforce controller-ed drive)

    1. Re:Sandforce... by c0lo · · Score: 4, Funny

      So, what Intel are saying, is that they are going to take a SSD controller with unstable, buggy firmware - and then add a feature that allows users to modify the internal constants the firmware uses to do it's job. This can only end very badly,...

      How come? Personally, I can see the benefits... run the SSD to glowing hot, write your data then cut he power. Upon cooling down, the data will be compressed (by thermal shrinking) in a hardware mode... and is only common-sense that being hard is better than being soft when it comes to compression.

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    2. Re:Sandforce... by w1zz4 · · Score: 2

      I have two Intel SSD (120GB 520 and 180GB 330) and never experienced problems you had...

  3. are they serious? by slashmydots · · Score: 2

    Over-provisioning already exists on a ton of different SSDs like Samsung and OCZ. Intel didn't invent anything new and the controller's MHz isn't going anywhere, nor would that be a good idea anyway. One flaw in the data and it's goodbye boot drive data integrity. What a useless "catching up" announcement.

  4. Why... by InfiniteBlaze · · Score: 2

    would I want to use compression at all, if my goal is speed? If maximizing total capacity is not the concern, I would use none of the drive for compression. I think the point to be taken from this is that Intel is recognizing that storage capacities for SSDs are reaching the point where compression is no longer necessary to make the technology a viable alternative to mechanical drives, and we will now begin seeing the true speed potential of the technology.

    1. Re:Why... by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All SSDs use compression.

      Citation needed.

  5. Re:Seems ironic... by the_B0fh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wow. You really like the taste of the koolaid huh. Intel has always been against overclocking because it eats into their margin. They had thermal protection so overheating is not a problem. Overvoltage might fry your cpu, but only after a very long time or a very high voltage - both of which can be controlled, so it's not like you'd pump 5V through a 1.35V part.

    And Intel traditionally bins its parts - you might want to check that out.

  6. Re:Speed by stms · · Score: 2

    Time for Seagate to make some real hard drives that spin at 20000 RPM

    I hear the 20000 RPM drives cut roast beef extra thin.

  7. Stacker all over again by Gothmolly · · Score: 2

    It's the ancient tradeoff of CPU vs. IO. When you have more of one than you need, burn it to improve the other.

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  8. I have the perfect term for it! by FuzzNugget · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Overclocking" is technically a misnomer. It's a sort of tweaking, but it's a bit more than that; we could call it ... twerking!

  9. Can you say... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 2

    "...gimmick?"

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  10. This isn't overclocking. It's overprovisioning! by Theovon · · Score: 2

    They're using "overclocking" here as a metaphor, but people seem to take it literally. Overclocking the drive would involve raising voltage and increasing clock speeds. That's probably possible. But what they're talking about appears to be to give the user the ability to influence the amount of overprovisioning on the drive. For an SSD, the physical capacity is larger than the logical capacity. This is important in order to decrease the amount of sector migration needed when looking for a block to erase. From zero, adding overprovisioning will substantially increase write performance, but at a diminishing rate as you add more extra space.

    As for compression, it does two things. It allows more sectors to be consolidated into the same page, amplifying the very limited flash write bandwidth. And it effectively increases the amount of overprovisioning. These two mean that more compressible data will have substantially higher write performance and somewhat higher read performance. (Although reads are already fast enough, on many drives, to max out the SATA bandwidth.)

    Anyhow, giving the user the ability to tweak overprovisioning seems pretty worthless to me. At best, some users will be able to increase the logical capacity, at the expense of having lousy write performance. Maybe this would help for drives where you store large amounts of media that you write once and read a lot. But how much more capacity could you get? 25%? Another knob might be compression "effort", which trades off compute time against SSD bandwidth. There's going to be a balancing point between the two, and that probably should be dynamic in the controller, not tweaked by users who don't know the internal architecture of the drive. Some writes will take longer than others due to wear leveling, migration, and garbage collection, giving the drive controller more or less free time to spend on compressing data.

  11. Give me dead nuts reliability! by BoRegardless · · Score: 3, Insightful

    After you deal with HD & SSD failures, you are only concerned with reliability.

  12. Spare Area - Not Overclocking by adisakp · · Score: 2

    It is not an overclock but the ability to adjust the "spare area". This is the percentage of flash on the drive that is not exposed to the user and is used for garbage collection, write acceleration (by having pre-erased blocks), reduction of write amplification, etc. You can emulate more spare area on drives already if you take SSD and format it to less that it's full capacity.

    This is the SSD equivalent to short stroking a hard drive.

    It's worth noting that the higher performance and enterprise level drives already have much more spare area but that results in a tradeoff of capacity for performance. They are just going to let you set this slider between consumer level (maximum capacity per $$$) and performance level (higher performance but less capcity).

  13. Re:what? by unixisc · · Score: 2

    Mod AC up! How does one even 'clock' an SSD, much less 'overclock'? SSDs are made up of NAND flash, which do NOT include a clock input - they operate in asynchronous operation. So how does that even start to make sense?

    And are we talking just read speeds here? They are typically 70ns for single word mode, and somewhat less - say 50ns for page mode. That would translate to 20MHz. Not your 2 or 3GHz that one thinks of, particularly w/ CPUs and DDR3 RAM