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SUSE's LibreOffice Core Team Moves To Collabora
An anonymous reader writes "Michael Meeks has announced that the core of SUSE's LibreOffice team is moving over to Collabora, which will now be providing commercial LibreOffice support. 'It seems to me that the ability to say "no" to profitable but peripheral business in order to strategically focus the company is a really important management task. In the final analysis I'm convinced that this is the right business decision for SUSE. It will allow Collabora's Productivity division to focus exclusively on driving LibreOffice into Windows, Mac and Consulting markets that are peripheral to SUSE. It will also retain the core of the existing skill base for the benefit of SUSE's customers, and the wider LibreOffice community, of which openSUSE is an important part.'"
Open office has bit me more than once with a few really nasty doc recovery bugs where it'll overwrite you're auto backups and then keep overwriting until they're all gone. Anyone care to chime in on whether these are fixed? I remember they knew about them but left the auto-recovery stuff turned on any way :(.
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without a robust mail and calendaring client that can co-exist in a microsoft exchange environment (even with full and absolute 100% compatibility and feature match with other office components)... and preferably with a true drop-in replacement for exchange server. exchange is the driving force behind most major deployments of microsoft office and windows server products. because of that large, captive user base, it will remain the de facto standard in business, even among those who don't use exchange for mail or calendaring. libreoffice, openoffice, gnumeric, abiword, and all the other open source alternatives to some (never all) microsoft office components will NEVER be more than a niche product with an insignificant (by comparison) number of users.
google is the main threat to the microsoft office ecosystem... why? because it has mail and calendaring in addition to alternatives to the most-used office components. the open source stuff doesn't. businesses aren't going to piece together a mess of open source products to kinda sorta, maybe get most the features of exchange and exchange server -- and then trust it to run reliably.. they'll pay the microsoft tax and get it all in one place because they're dumb sheep, and 20+ years of following microsoft is a hard habit to break... even if maybe, with the right person in charge of deployment and administration, it might just be the same or less cost overall. google offers a similar one-stop shopping experience but is new and has its own issues such as publicized outages and break-ins, government snooping, questionable data retention/usage, etc.
hate on this post all you want.. but facts are facts. microsoft is king of the enterprise, and ain't goin anywhere anytime soon.
"Open office .. it'll overwrite you're auto backups"
From what I've experienced OO prompts the user and asks if they want to recover any lost documents.
"Microsoft .. actually managed to continue to innovate in this space, and the PowerPoint presentations I see .. beat anything I've seen from the LibreOffice geeks"
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Googling on 'graphics example filetype:odp` brings up some very interesting results, see these examples
Stereoscopic vision workshop
Open Source Productivity Tools
"not having to even worry about file formats so long as you have an up-to-date version"
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I would love to junk MS Word in favor of Libre Writer, but it can't even do a search and replace on a manual page feed (^m in MS Word).
"Libre Writer .. can't even do a search and replace on a manual page feed"
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Install the AltSearch extension and search for \p
Dontcha know? Emacs also comes with a life.
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Michael Meeks has announced that the core of SUSE's LibreOffice team is moving over to Collabora
Is that in French Polynesia?
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The OpenOffice Alt Find & Replace extension can do that -- I've been using it for years to supplement the built-in find/replace dialog, and it's really rare that I encounter something that it can't actually tackle. That said, while it works fine in the latest OpenOffice despite the extension's age, I have no idea how LibreWriter will handle it.**
**On my computers, OOWriter can handle much larger documents without slowing down or having 'issues' than LibreWriter can -- I'm fairly sure that this is because OOW lets me choose which extensions I want (basically just Alt F&R), while LO has a bunch of science/math addons (which I don't use) coded into the program now.
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Conditional formatting, fix it please, even when starting from scratch with a new Calc document, it's horribly broken - starts off ok, but after a bit of copying and pasting such as when making shift patterns, it all goes completely haywire and becomes unusable :-(. Every time (v 4.1.0.2.0 Sept 2013)
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Rooooooob where aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare you? It must be annoying you can't rant about a Novell conspiracy to steal OpenOffice from the rightful owners at IBM^WApache^WIBM.
Oh look, he is so quick off the mark he went to troll the version of this story that didn't make it out of the queue. Well done, the marketing team will credit that if you don't tell them that no-one will see it without my link.
It sounds like SUSE, the largest contributor to LibreOffice, is ending their investment in LibreOffice, and their engineers are looking for new employment. This echos the way they got out of the Mono business a few years ago. But taking the same people and putting them in a much smaller company, with far less enterprise sales experience, is not something that will cause Microsoft to lose any sleep.
There are drop-in replacements for Exchange Server, it's just a question of figuring out how to do it...
"DROP IN" means there's a readily available "Downloads" page at some website, where you go to download some 250MB executable file with a free 2-user licence, and once you download that file, you double click on it, and it brings up a choice panel between "Basic" and "Advanced" installation, and 99% of all n00b users can choose the "Basic" installation, and within 5 minutes or so, you're up and playing around with the system and getting a feel for how it works and how your users could benefit from switching to the system.
"Drop-In" does NOT mean that you have to spend a week at Amazon, reading through thousands of product reviews, deciding which stack of softcover programming books with pictures of bizarre esoteric mammals on their covers you will need to purchase, and then spending about three or four years of your life actually reading the stack of softcover programming books with pictures of bizarre esoteric mammals on their covers, until you have a PhD-level understanding of C-Compilers [and a worthwhile opinion as to whether you should compile with the GNU compiler or Clang/LLVM or the Intel compiler or the M$FT compiler or the WTFE compiler], and which libraries you will need to compile against, and the theory of BASH shells, and the theory of prime numbers & elliptic curves and LDAP authentication, and the theory of sector-level hard-drive replication living beneath WebDAV and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
And then five or ten years later, when you've finally earned your "PhD" from the "School of Hard Knocks", you've still got to spend six or eight weeks at various internet forums, from Palo Alto to Bangalore, trying to figure out WTF line of code you need to add to some configuration file to get it all to work together reasonably "seamlessly", when finally some poor fat bearded dude, working for free from his mother's basement in Bulgaria, finally points out to you that your corporation can't do this because your 1,000 client computers have a known "issue" involving their 3Com ethernet chipsets in combination with their ATi graphics chipsets, but that no one has been able to chase down where that particular bug might live in the total code package, and so you're SOL.
At which point you learn that no one ever got fired for purchasing M$FT.
I had the displeasure of having to use libre office and open office and I can say that I would rather pay for Microsoft Office which I do, then use free Libre/Open office.
Why?
Wasted too many times with the bizarre quirks of libre/open office. Time is money. Stability is important and these application as about 1 yr ago, weren't all that stable. I had to work with training material which had text and graphics, etc., nothing to major, but can be large docs and I had a hard time dealing with all kinds of issues.
Now there will be a for profit version? LOL.. can't even get me to use the free one.. This should be interesting to see where things will lead.
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'It seems to me that the ability to say "no" to profitable but peripheral business in order to strategically focus the company is a really important management task
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no SH** Bosco; learning to focus on business with higher margin is something you should have engraved on your forehead on like, the first day of work.
Anyway, aside from the fanboys, everytime i try librre/open office, the don't work
I know, ymmv
About two months ago, I downloaded the latest open office clone and tried something real simple: paste a bitmap into a word document
this works sort of ok in MS office; doesn't work at all in OO
The whole thing is idiotic: the money is in corporate; if they want features they will go for MS suite, which OO will never touch; if they want cloud, google
If you want cheap, you can get last years MS suite off of ebay at very low cost
I just don't see why anyone bothers with OO
I'll give almost ANYTHING the benefit of the doubt.
But there is a very finite upper bound to my patience, and as soon as that foreboding "Not Ready For Primetime" feeling starts to sink in, I'm outta there.
Again, though, my larger point would be that there is MASSIVE value-add in simply "getting it all to work together seamlessly", and unless and until the FOSS/Linux/BSD community [-er-, non-Apple BSD community] starts stepping up to the plate and actually putting in the elbow grease and peforming their due diligence on customer relations and making the whole process more or less "seamless" - until that time comes, M$FT is gonna keep eating their lunch in the Enterprise space.
Folks in the real world simply do not have the spare time to do the whole "poor fat bearded dude living in his mother's basement" routine for very long, before they actually STARVE to death [for lack of sufficient income stream].
This almost works. It can find a page break but not replace it. It reports replacing the page breaks, but the page breaks remain in the document.