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Genetic Convergent Evolution: Stunning Gene Similarities Among Diverse Animals

Toe, The writes "It has long been understood that completely different animals can end up with very similar traits (convergent evolution), and even that genes can converge. But a new study shows an unbelievable level of convergence among entire groups of genes. The study shows that animals as diverse as bats and dolphins, which independently developed echolocation, converge in nearly 200 different genomic regions concentrated in several 'hearing genes.' The implications are rather deep, if you think about it, delving into interesting limitations on diversity or insights into the potential of DNA. And perhaps more importantly, this finding goes a long way toward explaining why almost aliens in the universe look surprisingly identical to humans (though still doesn't explain why they all speak English)."

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  1. What I've said all along by dorpus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I got my PhD in statistical genetics. Why should we equate genetic homology to evolutionary homology? All these studies that speak of a hypothetical Adam or Eve assume that the same mutations could not have arisen independently in different parts of the world.

    1. Re:What I've said all along by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Informative
  2. Re:Dolphins and Bats are Mammals by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not to pooh-pooh this study, but dolphins and bats aren't as far apart as say, bats and moths. If a fish or reptile converged with a mammal that would be more "unbelievable". I think we're in "Oh, cool," territory more than "WHAT????"

    Well that's the point. they all start with some common underlying mamallian hearing genes and then they tweak them to develop echolocation.

    My guess is that in addition to certain mutations being easy to evolve (for example a particular mutation might set a rate constant on a binding protein to a be in some useful range for a typical return signal time, to create a clock), that viruses could carry genetic material between species that would bind the dna in common regions and transfer the point mutations between species.

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  3. Re:Random (letter) selection by reve_etrange · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Only it's entirely credible. That is entire premise of a peer-reviewed publication.

    You know your argument is worthless when it hinges entirely on nitpicking common expressions.

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  4. Re:Isn't this what you would expect from a Creator by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Then the evidence is overwhelmingly pointing to no creator. The genes that code for intelligence in corvid birds and chimpanzees are different. The genes that code for wings in birds, bats, insects, and pterasaurs are completely different. The genes that code for white fur and similar looking white filaments in plants are way off. Wouldn't a creator just reuse white fur on cotton plants? The genetic diversity across the seven kingdoms and the millions of species is vast, with genetic convergence the extremely rare exception, not the rule (hence why this is newsworthy). Sorry, your own argument points to there being no creator.

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  5. Proof of Creation!! by haruchai · · Score: 3, Interesting

    They were all very intelligently designed by the Great Programmer. There's even code reuse.

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