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MyOpenID To Shut Down In February

kriston writes with news about an email sent to myOpenID users letting them know that it will be shut down February 1, 2014. The email reads:" Hello,

I wanted to reach out personally to let you know that we have made the decision to end of life the myOpenID service. myOpenID will be turned off on February 1, 2014.

In 2006 Janrain created myOpenID to fulfill our vision to make registration and login easier on the web for people. Since that time, social networks and email providers such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, LinkedIn and Yahoo! have embraced open identity standards. And now, billions of people who have created accounts with these services can use their identities to easily register and login to sites across the web in the way myOpenID was intended.

By 2009 it had become obvious that the vast majority of consumers would prefer to utilize an existing identity from a recognized provider rather than create their own myOpenID account. As a result, our business focus changed to address this desire, and we introduced social login technology. While the technology is slightly different from where we were in 2006, I'm confident that we are still delivering on our initial promise – that people should take control of their online identity and are empowered to carry those identities with them as they navigate the web.

For those of you who still actively use myOpenID, I can understand your disappointment to hear this news and apologize if this causes you any inconvenience. To reduce this inconvenience, we are delaying the end of life of the service until February 1, 2014 to give you time to begin using other identities on those sites where you use myOpenID today.

Speaking on behalf of Janrain, I truly appreciate your past support of myOpenID.

Sincerely,
Larry


Larry Drebes, CEO, Janrain, Inc. "

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  1. Holy summarization, Batman! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You'd think this would be a great time to use that "read more" snip feature that's typical of reviews and interviews... or maybe this is a cue to start using Larry Drebes's signature everywhere?

    At any rate, it's a little sad to see this OpenID provider going because it means less diversity in the single sign-on landscape, which is the whole point. At least OpenID itself will still be around!

    Sincerely,
    Larry


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    1. Re:Holy summarization, Batman! by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Also means you can look forward to identifying yourself through the services of a company known to track your information for marketing and other purposes.

      Yay. :-|

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    2. Re:Holy summarization, Batman! by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      Thanks Larry for providing a service I've been using for a long time.

      However, while it's not written in TFS, there may be another reason while myOpenID was not that popular: reliability?
      It is rather annoying when one cannot login to a bunch of sites because myOpenID is unreachable...

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    3. Re:Holy summarization, Batman! by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It also means that since those networks generally don't let us log onto their networks using OpenID, we're stuck keeping track of which identity/account we used to log into each other website -- "let's see, did I use my user1 Gmail account, or was it the user2 Yahoo account, or maybe Facebook or...man, hope it wasn't site/service X, Y or Z because those don't even exist anymore...maybe I used Discus that time..."

      Especially as the big commercial data-mining services don't let us set up multiple identities/personal info/userpics so we can use whichever seems the most appropriate. (Yeah, what a shock...not.) I liked being able to control whether I'm "seatofmypants" or "[insert real name]" or something else entirely, not having Google decide (as it does on all of its connected properties, pissing me off) that I *must* be known by my supposed real name, not the one I actually chose to suit my personality or life.

      FWIW I use MyOpenID a couple of times each month, and haven't run into server problems.

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    4. Re:Holy summarization, Batman! by xaxa · · Score: 2

      I barely use it, but there is OpenId Delegation, which allows you to use your own domain but delegate the authentication part to someone else.

      I have this:
      <link rel='openid.server' href='http://www.myopenid.com/server'/>
      <link rel='openid.delegate' href='http://MYNAME.myopenid.com/'/>
      <meta http-equiv='X-XRDS-Location' content='http://MYNAME.myopenid.com/xrds'/>
      on the root page of my domain, so my OpenId is http://mydomain/.

      Hopefully I'll be able to delegate to someone else (or run the OpenId stuff myself, if necessary).

      (I'd log into Slashdot with it, but I already have a very old account registered with the email address and can't be bothered to fix that.)

    5. Re:Holy summarization, Batman! by maple_shaft · · Score: 3, Informative

      Thanks Larry for providing a service I've been using for a long time. However, while it's not written in TFS, there may be another reason while myOpenID was not that popular: reliability? It is rather annoying when one cannot login to a bunch of sites because myOpenID is unreachable...

      A thousand times THIS.

      My first and only experiences with MyOpenID was for authenticating to StackExchange, but it was quite possibly one of the buggiest and most unreliable services I ever had the displeasure to use. It was nearly a laugh but really a cry. I switched and never looked back. I certainly am not surprised nor am I crying a river over their demise.

  2. Just to be clear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This isn't the same as OpenID, the one run by the OpenID foundation. This is a random for profit company that I would wager not to many people have heard of. The company is still providing user integration software.

    1. Re:Just to be clear by Jonner · · Score: 5, Informative

      This isn't the same as OpenID, the one run by the OpenID foundation. This is a random for profit company that I would wager not to many people have heard of. The company is still providing user integration software.

      OpenID is an open standard which has been implemented by many sites, one of which is myOpenID. myOpenID was one of the earliest OpenID services. Lots of companies now provide OpenIDs for anyone with an account. However, the overall vision of having one OpenID with which one can log in to all one's online accounts hasn't happened. You can't use your Google account to log in to Facebook or your Microsoft account to log in to Twitter. It's not really surprising janrain is giving up.

  3. Used google fu to figure out what myOpenID was... by pongo000 · · Score: 2

    ...and this is what I found:

    http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5301896/what-are-the-differences-between-openid-and-myopenid

    So my question: If myOpenID is "one of many providers," why does this rate an article of its own? Or am I missing the significance of the event?

  4. Re:News For Nerds, Indeed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you go to the OpenID site and try to sign up for an account you'll see that it's very much used...

    Still little known though...

  5. Re:Verbified by MightyMartian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Yes, we must stop the Larrying of language.

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  6. They roll with the punches by djhaskin987 · · Score: 2

    I think it's cool that the company didn't wine about their major cash cow going away. Instead, they went with the flow and are still in business. I wish other tech companies would do that too.

  7. Re:Verbified by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What rock have you been living under? I can assure you that "End of lifed" has been a common software development term for more than a decade. You've probably encountered it as EOL'd and mistakenly thought it meant "end of lined." (Either that or you haven't entered the workforce yet, because if you work for a company that produces software, I guarantee you that your company uses the term.)

  8. *shrug* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    <link rel="openid.server" href="http://www.myopenid.com/server">
    <link rel="openid.delegate" href="http://anoncoward.myopenid.com/">
    <!-- What this says is that this web page in question is owned by the owner of delegate (that is, anoncoward) and furthermore server (the OpenID provider actually) may be used to verify ownership of delegate.-->
    <!-- When you wish to change the OpenID provider, you simply change these two lines. At your own website. Thus you don't have to worry about either running your own OpenID server, or having one shutting down on you (as you can easily switch). -->

  9. Re:Verbified by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What rock have you been living under? I can assure you that "End of lifed" has been a common software development term for more than a decade. You've probably encountered it as EOL'd and mistakenly thought it meant "end of lined." (Either that or you haven't entered the workforce yet, because if you work for a company that produces software, I guarantee you that your company uses the term.)

    Of if you work for any company that owns EOL'ed equipment that you want to keep in service, you'll quickly learn that EOL is a fancy way of saying "Sure, you can buy a service contract for that - but it'll cost you. A lot. So much that you may as well buy a new one."

  10. Re:I'd pay by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The best to have way to do that would be to host your own openID server, in fact I have been looking at setting up an openid server for personal use on my home sever but there don't seem to be many actively maintained standalone and easy to administer openid packages out there. Anyone else on slashdot know of any or have any tips on setting up an openid server?

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  11. Embrace and extinguish (anonymity) by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 2

    "Since that time, social networks and email providers such as Facebook, Google, Twitter, LinkedIn and Yahoo! have embraced open identity standards."

    And now these companies by converging on this supposed standard (and other standards such as cellular phone numbers) have effectively extinguished anonymity on the Web. It just goes to show that you Don't have to Be Evil to do evil.

    Right now I'm trying to create a new Yahoo email address because some forum requires that I have a real email address, a permanent adresss that they can spam, rather than a throwaway 10-minute email address. But guess what, Yahoo wants me to surrender my cellphone number. For what? So the NSA can add a few more bytes to its data center?

    1. Re:Embrace and extinguish (anonymity) by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 2

      I agree wholeheartedly -- and try using SpamGourmet for the address. It's ancient, but the vast majority of sites accept it, *no* messages over the limit you set per sub-address (sub1.user@, sub2.user@) can get through, and I've come to like it a lot more than the throwaway services. Otherwise, try using Mailinator with one of their alternate domains; they change those often enough that forums/sites rarely have the latest set of variants blocked yet.

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    2. Re:Embrace and extinguish (anonymity) by vlueboy · · Score: 2

      It is depressing. When I started using the web, an email address was important, but you could post on guestbooks (gasp!) without being forced to give it up. Later, email became your login handle and password reset tool, so you were forced to give it up. Back then it was not so natural to create 4 or 5 addresses, and the mental burden was similar to being asked by a stranger what your cellphone number is.
      Now, you're like one question away from needing to give not your home number, but your PERSONAL number. It must be a cell because texts are a given. We all know how cell tech is built for GPS monitoring.

      Exposition done, I created a hotmail address for someone**. We had to give a phone number or a secondary email address. For older people who you're helping out, which happens to me often, this is a pain because they do not have one. Hotmail wanted a phone, and we were forced to give them THAT. I felt cheated. At least they let you give a non-cellphone number with a voice-based reset system.

      This morning I clicked on a link to open a Google App ID or something similar for work and they wanted to "verify" my identity to even let me read someone else's project. Google doesn't play around and they forced a cellphone-only choice. I imagine that in some poor countries, this becomes a pain. The depressing part is that people don't beat around the bush for identification steps. I declined, and every one of these traps makes me use Google less and less.

      **I don't know what happened to the ol' password-reset link of days past. That predates security questions, but the latter seem of dubious use because they're easy to guess and rarely customizable.

  12. Lots of people signed up from StackOverflow by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    If myOpenID is "one of many providers," why does this rate an article of its own?

    When StackOverflow first was launched, you could only log in with OpenID I believe. MyOpenID was one of the more prominent providers, and so there are probably a lot of people that if nothing else still use myOpenID to log in to the realm of StackOverflow sites... thus worthy of note on a site like Slashdot in a way that other OpenID providers may not be.

    It's good to know, I use it myself for a number of sites - basically wherever I can. What would be really nice is if myOpenID handed off user accounts to some other OpenID provider on request...

    What I really do not want to do is use Facebook as an authentication provider since so many sites request permissions to do things on Facebook I do not want to let them do, and some site logins fail without those permissions.

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  13. Re:News For Nerds, Indeed... by Narcocide · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A little used system that few people even know about is shutting down.

    Sure, but you shouldn't be so judgmental. The same thing has also likely been said of the likes of Usenet, and AltaVista. The same thing might easily be said about Slashdot one day. Those who live in glass houses should not throw rocks at glass houses.

  14. Re:I'd pay by CastrTroy · · Score: 3, Informative

    You don't even need to set up an OpenID server. Set up a url, put the delegate tags to point to some other server that handles all the delegation. When stackoverflow.com starting using OpenID for authentication, MyOpenID was their recommended provider. I read up a bit before signing up and figured out how to do delegation from my own domain name. Now that OpenID is shutting down, I could set up my own server, but I could also just point the delegate information to another OpenID server, or point it to StackExchange, which has become it's own OpenID provider.

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  15. No mention of their admin apathy by Dagger2 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I received this email earlier today. It made no mention of the fact that generating new SSL certificates for certificate authentication on their website broke years ago, and nobody could be bothered to fix it. It's still broken, in fact. I'm guessing their decision to shut it down was more out of apathy than anything else.

  16. Re: I'd pay by robmv · · Score: 2

    Use OpenId delegation pointing to any provider, that way you use your domain but don't need to run any extra software. I used myOpenid before but only this way, I knew something like this could happen, now wait for the day someone forget to renew their domain and all accounts where people used a myOpenid URL and people forgot to switch to another provider could be compromised

  17. Re:I'd pay by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You don't even need to set up an OpenID server. Set up a url, put the delegate tags to point to some other server that handles all the delegation. When stackoverflow.com starting using OpenID for authentication, MyOpenID was their recommended provider. I read up a bit before signing up and figured out how to do delegation from my own domain name. Now that OpenID is shutting down, I could set up my own server, but I could also just point the delegate information to another OpenID server, or point it to StackExchange, which has become it's own OpenID provider.

    I have thought of doing that but but then openID providers come and go as seen by the subject of this thread. Also I don't want to use others as they can be used by the provider to, effectively, track you web usage. As my goal is to be A) independent of others services and B) to not be tracked on the web using a openid referrer does not mesh with my goals.

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  18. Re:News For Nerds, Indeed... by iamhassi · · Score: 2

    A little used system that few people even know about is shutting down.

    That's why this is News for Nerds, because only Nerds would have even heard of this service.

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  19. Re:popular - slow - dead by smash · · Score: 2

    Oh why sure, I'd love to have my facebook hacked and every website I visit being exposed.

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  20. Re:Meh- almost just acknowledgement of status quo by BitZtream · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...

    Running your own openid server is rather simple if you're willing to install some packages.

    For fucks sake, a simple google search results in the following first link: http://wiki.openid.net/w/page/12995226/Run%20your%20own%20identity%20server

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  21. Re:Verbified by petermgreen · · Score: 2

    (note: details in this post are from memory and may be imperfect)

    I remember talking to someone who'd previously worked at a place which designed some kind of control hardware that was used by among others the mining industry.

    Unfortunately this hardware was becoming a pain to support, it was a somewhat obsolete design and also had a habit of catching fire from time to time so they wanted to encourage customers to move to newer designs. On the other hand they didn't want to discontinue it and leave customers in the lurch. So they decided to give their customers a not so subtule hint by doubling the price.

    It didn't work, customers kept buying them in nearly the same quantity as before so they doubled the price again.

    IIRC after a few doublings of price they decided that the product line was worth keeping going after all.

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