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Court Orders Retrial In Google Maps-Related Murder Case
netbuzz writes "Ruling that a judge erred in blocking two computer security experts from testifying that an incriminating Google Maps search record found on the defendant's laptop was planted there, a North Carolina appeals court has ordered a new trial for ex-Cisco employee Bradley Cooper, convicted two years ago in the 2008 strangulation death of his wife Nancy. 'The sole physical evidence linking Defendant to Ms. Cooper's murder was the alleged Google Map search, conducted on Defendant's laptop, of the exact area where Ms. Cooper's body was discovered,' wrote the appeals court. 'We hold ... that erroneously preventing Defendant from presenting expert testimony, challenging arguably the strongest piece of the State's evidence, constituted reversible error and requires a new trial.'"
Next time I murder my wife, I'm going to plant obviously fake evidence on my own computer linking me to the crime.
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Well you can pretty much boil any story down to a bland set of base components and call it not worthy of the title 'news'. However, I didn't know this and I was interested to read it since I remember the original case. If I hadn't read it here, I may not have seen it at all.
You do realize Google keeps their own search history on their servers outside your browser. It's still clear-able, but there's more work involved.
(I opt out of that crap.)
For those that don't RTFA, here's another interesting nugget: The judge also denied the defense from showing technical evidence of a "recreation" of how this search might look if someone actually did ti on the defendant's machine:
As a sideshow, the appeal also slapped down prosecutors for waving the "national security" banner to ward off a defense attempt to examine test data replicating the Google Maps search that was created by investigators:
It was error for the trial court to shut down this line of questioning without ascertaining how, or if, national security or some other legitimate interest outweighed the probative value of this information to Defendant. On remand, the trial court must determine with a reasonable degree of specificity how national security or some other legitimate interest would be compromised by discovery of particular data or materials, and memorialize its ruling in some form allowing for informed appellate review.
I tend to have a "gut" feeling the guy killed his wife, no one else has motive and the devorce was "ugly".
BUT... The Judge in the original trile seems to have made some errors...
If you want news from today, you have to come back tomorrow.
Judge makes reversible error. Case overturned on appeal. Nothing to see here. Move along.
If it were you who was locked up in prison for the rest of your life
for a crime you did not commit and there was evidence of a technical
nature that the ( obviously stupid ) judge refused to allow, you'd be thinking
a lot differently, buddy.
I think it IS newsworthy for two reasons : first, it shows yet another example of how utterly
fucked the adversarial legal system in the US really is. The goal of this fucked
up legal system is to "win", not to find the truth, and the assholes who prosecuted
this case ought to be disbarred for their enthusiasm toward suppressing crucial evidence.
Second, the news has a technical aspect because the "evidence" of the Google Maps
search may have been planted on the machine Cooper supposedly used. If such
details as info stored in a browser cache can be the point on which a man's freedom
hinges, this is technical news of importance.
- Z
It should be fairly easy to tell, its not like Google doesn't log EVERY FUCKING REQUEST.
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It just opens up a can of worms as to its authenticity. How do we know he was the one who searched for this specific spot? Even if you argue it was probably him because it was his computer the law requires it to be beyond a reasonable doubt. Probably is not the same thing as beyond a reasonable doubt. Show me this AND multiple pieces of other evidence. Preferably something that is more damming. Otherwise I'm going to have doubts. Prosecutors are malicious and I'd trust a random stranger over the prosecution in any case.
What's fucked up is that you can be so clearly and utterly clueless - yet still get modded insightful. The prosecutors didn't suppress evidence - the judge ruled that experts couldn't testify. And that's his bloody job. And reading TFA, I can't say that I think he's entirely in the wrong - because the defense screwed the pooch in the first place. (By not getting a properly qualified expert in the first place, and then by potentially violating the rules of evidence.) Pointing out where the defense screwed up is the prosecutors job, and vice versa.
Hardly. This isn't the first such case, nor a particularly notable one. "It happened on a computer" isn't enough to make it newsworthy anymore, that ship sailed decades ago.
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It's physical evidence in much the same way that a letter confessing to a crime is physical evidence, and not just ink lines on a piece of paper. Although the content, the meaning, of the writing or data may be virtual, the medium on which they're stored is physical. Hence they're physical evidence. For that matter, the same goes for fingerprints and DNA. The grease or DNA molecules are just the medium. The pattern of lines and pattern of C/T/A/G molecules are what's important, but they are virtual (can exist independently of the medium).
Pointing out where the defense screwed up is the prosecutors job, and vice versa.
Which is why he thinks the system is fucked up, because who the hell cares about the fucking truth when everyone spends their time crying foul for a chance at the free throw.
I don't know about you but I find it terrifying that people can go to jail for things they didn't do, even if they do eventually get an appeal and prove themselves innocent. Between judges making errors and jurors being prejudiced morons it seems like justice is pretty hit and miss.
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Just lets suppose the wife google it on his notebook to find the location. I google things all the time before going there.
The prosecutors didn't suppress evidence - the judge ruled that experts couldn't testify. And that's his bloody job.
The judge is elected by and paid by taxpayers. The majority of those taxpayers will never be privy to the inner workings of the trial, whether by chance or by intent to remain ignorant of local trial proceedings. However, the judge's opponent in the next round of elections will take any opportunity (s)he can to paint the incumbent as incompetent or lenient on criminals, which might be enough to sway the election. Do the math before you rush to such quick judgement.
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What's fucked up is that you can be so clearly and utterly clueless - yet still get modded insightful. The prosecutors didn't suppress evidence - the judge ruled that experts couldn't testify. And that's his bloody job. And reading TFA, I can't say that I think he's entirely in the wrong - because the defense screwed the pooch in the first place. (By not getting a properly qualified expert in the first place, and then by potentially violating the rules of evidence.) Pointing out where the defense screwed up is the prosecutors job, and vice versa.
Now you're getting into the technicalities that are some of what makes the system fucked, so you're really making the his case. No, technically, the prosecutors didn't suppress the evidence, they filed motions to the judge asking him to suppress the evidence. The point here is that the prosecutors did initiate it. That's what's fucked up about the system. The prosecutor's job should be to find the truth, the problem is that finding the truth and justice is not their job, the job is to win and to hell with truth or justice, exactly the point the parent was trying to make.
So they decided the first expert wasn't qualified enough, fine, let's assume they're right, but then if the point of the system is to find the truth and not just to win, then why should they be able to prevent the defendant from finding a different person that the judge can agree is an expert? The point of disallowing a last-minute switch is so that the prosecution has time to check the facts. In this case, they already knew the defendant was going to bring in an expert witness, and what the expert was going to testify to, it shouldn't matter if there was a last-minute switch up, they already had time to check the facts, all they should need is enough time to verify the expert's qualifications.
On another note, the prosecutors also tried to prevent the defense from attempting to examine test data replicating the Google Maps search that was created by investigators by claiming national security! Now that really does sound like they were suppressing (or strong-arming the judge to suppress) potentially exculpatory evidence. Through each of these things, it is clear that the prosecutor is neither serving the public nor justice, their only goal is to win, and that is evidence that the system is totally fucked. If the system were not fucked, then the prosecutors would be disbarred for this.
gesundheit
I believe the judge is supposed to be a biased advocate for the defense. Why shouldn't the judge be lenient on criminals? People make mistakes, and the judge is supposed to determine appropriate punitive measures. Unremorseful violent serial rapist? 9 years in jail. Troubled college teen that let his emotions get out of hand at a party and did something he regrets? 6 months and he can live with his conscience. That's how it's supposed to be.
There are no criminals in court. Right now there are absolutely no criminals in trial; there are some in appeals, and that might not even hold water. You are presumably innocent until proven to the judgment of the court that you are guilty; the job of the judge is to make the prosecution sweat its ass and prove to the satisfaction of the court that the defendant is guilty. When the defense raises a point that debases the prosecution's case, the judge should be baring down on the prosecution to explain this shit in some way that makes actual sense or get the fuck out of his court with this bullshit railroad garbage. When the prosecution puts the defense in a bad spot, the judge should be waiting for an explanation from the defense--and if the defense can't render anything good enough, then oh well, I guess that means we have to accept what the prosecution is telling us.
The whole idea that judges are supposed to send people to jail is ludicrous. It's like people think if you get arrested and wind up in court you're guilty and going to jail. Do we have a Cardassian court system now?
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Wrong. The judge is supposed to be an unbiased advocate of the law. His or her job is to conduct the trial and ensure that the rights of both the defendant and the People are protected. In practice of course few judges are totally unbiased, but that's how it is supposed to work. The presumption of innocence is just what it sounds like. It has nothing to do with the judge having a bias, and a judge is certainly not an advocate for the defendant.
The fact remains that the prosecution is there to convince the judge to place a person in jail for violation of the law. The judge is supposed to presume that person is innocent; therefor it is squarely the burden of the prosecution to prove guilt. This is called "Burden of Proof" and thus the judge should be placing a burden on the prosecution.
As the judge should be willfully placing a burden on one party to prove a fact and accepting from another party to only demonstrate that the prosecution hasn't provided sufficient proof of that fact--and specifically, not to show that the declaration of guilt made by the prosecution is actually wrong--this entire process is by nature biased toward the defense. The judge should be maintaining that bias, forcing the prosecution to squarely shoulder their own damn burden, and supporting the defense where reasonable even when it bends or breaks the technical rules of the court. Discovery rules, for example, are there so that you can't blind-side the other lawyer; but if the other lawyer is reasonably prepared for a type of evidence that is being replaced (expert witnesses) or can reasonably examine the evidence in a reasonable amount of time that the court can offer them during adjournment, then it is appropriate to allow introduction of new evidence that may prove catastrophic to the prosecution's case, as the prosecution should not be allowed to prove guilt based on a fantasy that has no grounding in the real world. This happens all the time.
It really is supposed to work that way. Look at the Zimmerman trial and you see a judge who needs to be executed for treason--the judge in that case put the defense in the hot seat and coddled the prosecution, which was completely and totally inappropriate. You are not guilty until you've shown your innocence.
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I'm from the area and this case has been rather prominently featured on the news.
The district attorneys in this state are well known for their corruption and disregard for the rights of the accused and/or of the innocent. This trial is only taking place one county over from where Mike Nifong persued his witchhunt against the Duke Lacrosse players. In addition, the SBI has been implicated in a large scandal in which evidence was faked and mishandled.
Most people here do not believe he is guilty but rather that this is a sham case in which a misandristic government and court system automatically assumes that the husband must be the one who killed his wife.
Actually, I disagree.
Perhaps you are correct in the sense that this is not "new for nerds" but it is a story which has a darker side which no one is yet talking about.
This case stems from some very crappy police work with a clear and obvious agenda. "Defense attorneys have called Cary police work 'inept' and 'dishonest,' saying investigators were concerned about the town's reputation for being a safe community and that they ignored evidence and witnesses that didn't support their theory that Brad Cooper killed his wife." What's the underlying theme? Bad police? They have a crime problem there and they don't want people knowing it. I have additional ideas about what other issues are at play, but "random crime" at the hands of "bored teenagers" is a problem all over the nation and that's not a secret -- it's just a lot of misrepresented facts meant to steer people away from some very ugly conclusions.
What should be news here is that the judge is able to fix cases by refusing to allow a defense. That shouldn't just be news, it should land the judge in prison for years. But that's business as usual in the American injustice system.
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