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Lowell Observatory Pushes To Name an Asteroid "Trayvon"
Flash Modin writes "The observatory where Pluto was discovered is pushing to name an asteroid after a black teenager killed in a controversial confrontation in Florida last year. William Lowell Putnam III says his family has identified with the cause of African American rights, and thus an asteroid named after Trayvon Martin is perfectly appropriate. Putnam is the sole trustee of the observatory, which was founded by Percival Lowell during his search for canals on Mars. Astronomers at the observatory discovered the asteroid in 2000, but it has not been formally named. Putnam has already asked the Minor Planet Center once to designate the asteroid 'Trayvon,' but they told him the designation was 'premature.' Now that there's been a verdict, the observatory is reapplying in hopes the naming body will see things different."
Trayvon Martin could have been me
-Glorious Leader and Messiah Obummer
injecting stupid political games into space has got to be a new low in astronomy
What if it then heads towards earth and could destroy our planet... But we intern build ships to fly and land on it and blow it up before it can? is that deja vu?
as long as they also name one Nicole Brown Simpson, I will go for it!
It's being followed by a pale asteroid named Zimmerman.
Table-ized A.I.
They're a bunch of L'il Rascals. Spanky, Alfalfa or Buckwheat would be way better. After all, wasn't Pluto, now no longer a planet, named after a Disney dog?
Yes, that is appropriate.
You've got to be kidding me. Lets name some stuff after Hitler too.
I don't really think naming celestial bodies after victims is a good idea.
Astronomers usually want to inspire hope, and looking up at things named after victims just doesn't seem right.
good job squandering your reputation. How about a peace prize while you are at it.
Makes you wonder what sort of mentality is controlling our science assets.
Blow it up!
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Trayvon Martin may have been killed by a racist vigilante, but his memory can live on forever, despite the racist dumbfucks who hate black people, even in asteroid form.
As long as another is named Zimmerman.
-Styopa
Yes, let's name all of the asteroids after attempted murders who got justice. Nothing political or controversial about that. I'm looking forward to smoking some illegal drugs, putting on bulky clothing and going out an shoplifting some stuff, then attacking the first cracker that gives me a dirty look. All the evidence of my motivation can be suppressed, and I'll get a space rock named after me too.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
have to boil down to your hatred of the black democrat that is fixing your crap with you bigoted losers?
of trying to stand your ground when dealing with bigoted stalkers that don't like it when their blacks get all uppity.
doesn't depend on the failed logic of a bunch of southern trash on a jury.
Is that the asteroid we're going to have to shoot down?
Putting aside the fact that Martin was a racist thug who got killed by someone in self defense...and that merely bringing his name and media/court situation up he was involved in that is currently still getting people across the country all pissed off at each other if its even discussed...and that this is probably just an attention-whore publicity act...and that I doubt he had much to do in the field of the sciences...what was I talking about? Oh, yeah let's name an asteroid after him. Whatever.
they obviously want to drum up support for shooting these things down.
i mean, planets have RIGHTS you know.
"William Lowell Putnam III says his family has identified with the cause of African American rights, and thus an asteroid named after Trayvon Martin is perfectly appropriate."
So a teenager whom a jury said was shot in self-defense (or there was no convincing evidence otherwise) is perfectly appropriate? Might as well name the asteroid "Al Sharpton".
How about a black scientist, like George Washington Carver? Or Mae Jemison or Guion Bluford, since this is space and asteroids we're talking about? Maybe a Rosa or a Frederick or a W.E.B. might have done a thing or two for civil rights and African Americans?
“As I see it, the social fairness showed to Trayvon Martin was very sadly lacking.”
Oh, I don't know, dominating the cable news cycle for months on end, hundreds of thousands of people taking selfies wearing hoodies and national black leaders/celebrities calling for a Double Jeopardy trial and/or punishment for George Zimmerman seems to show some kind of social backing.
Why don't we start enshrining every person that gets shot in a bar fight next?
Light a fire for a man and he'll be warm for a day. Light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
Name Asteroid after Trayvon. A few weeks later it collides with a smaller rock, that nudges it into a path such that it turns Miami into a large smoking hole in the ground.
Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
Like - notherdedniger. that way many more people could identify with it and claim it was theirs
anything that gets more dead furriners is OK by your book. So much for a good christian. Funny use of BS sources too.
for everything I see. You must be one of those birthers that thinks that he has a time machine if you think you can blame him for stuff that occurred before he was even president. Still, nobody expect any sort of integrity in a bigots arguments. All they see is their own hate.
Since the article was simply to troll Slashdot... I'll add my two cents... The evidence shows that Trayvon was HIGH at the time he shoplifted his drug making supplies from the store and laid the beat down on a Hispanic individual. Trayvon was a bad apple and paid for his crime with his life. HE CHOSE THAT LIFE... It is unfortunate that he was a druggy and was on the fast track to jail, as he could have looked up to so many of the success black businessmen all around us... If they are going to name a space object after him, might I suggest the Unibomber instead...
When an unarmed black kid is being stalked by someone like you they are just supposed to say yes sir massa sir or you feel entitled to kill them for not knowing their place. I hope that you tell any women out there that if they are being stalked by someone like you that they should just lay back and enjoy it. Otherwise you'll have to kill them and claim you were just standing your ground.
Gezz... if someone told me that this was in "The Onion", I probably would have believed it.
Perhaps these two will get even bigger asteroids!
We can name some ice chunks in Saturn's belt after all of the black kids beating up and killing white people over Treyvon.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Universities, America.
You have completely lost my respect. It was pretty done for now. But I am certain you lack any integrity whatsoever at this point.
Think about the numbers for a minute and then consider that if you
were in the 13% whether it would be more intelligent to try to mesh
peacefully with society or whether it would be a good idea to act like
a thug such that society realizes you need to be "dealt with".
Smart blacks choose to work hard and fit into the larger society.
Stupid blacks choose to behave in an antisocial manner and then
complain that they are persecuted when society objects to their
behavior. For anyone with a brain, the lesson is clear. It has nothing to
do with whether you are black or white, and everything to do with whether
it is wise to fuck with people who have more money, power, and influence
than you will ever have.
Fuck with the bull, you get the horns. And that is true whether you are white, black,
yellow, pink, brown, or polka dotted.
Only fools have sympathy for the likes of Trayvon Martin. Martin was a thief and a thug
and was headed for bigger trouble but fortunately he was stopped before that happened.
So now the Discovery Channel Telescope wants to get into TV race baiting politics and "entertainment"? Time to let them go full commercial or nonprofit, and defund any public monies.
For as smart as most modern Astronomers appear to be, they can sure suggest some dumb ideas. Travyon? REALLY?
Discovered in 2000 at Lowell Observatory. How about naming it LO-2K?!? Was it really that difficult?
Regardless of the details of the case itself, it's pretty clear that Martin was a racist (he used racial insults against Caucasians). He does not deserve to have an asteroid named after him, and if the civil rights movement picks him as a symbol, it will only hurt their cause.
The last thing it needs is a dead nigger.
what scientific potential did he embody (forget actually accomplish) to warrant his name being carried into astronomic posterity?
Um... martyrdom need not merit scientific basis, hence the immaculate conception and Star of Bethlehem (an astronomical event)
If these fools name some hapless piece of drifting interplanetary space debris "Trayvon" in their misguided attempt to glorify a dead, racist, drug-abusing, violent criminal thug, how long until there's an IGG funding drive for development of a "Zimmerman" missile to destroy it?
Kind of a long way to go (in multiple senses of the phrase) to get people interested in space again, isn't it?
I think these people have had far too much time on their hands for far too long.
"Space Madness" has obviously taken hold of this group. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZCiZpph9jo
Strat
Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.
If it gets named Trayvon, it will probably be the first asteroid ever shot down by NASA
this definitely needs to happen.
At least something like this can give Trayvon's murder some significance and maybe someday a long time from now people will look up the Trayvon Asteroid for some random reason and read about what happened and how it got the name.
They will be astonished that morons like you still existed in 2013...but at least we will have done *something* permanent to let the universe know we all aren't sub-moronic sociopaths like you ;)
Thank you Dave Raggett
In related news, and in a fitting analogy, the Observatory is recommending that a newly identified black hole be named "Zimmerman."
you can't condemn martin's behavior, it only happened because martin was stalked by an asshole with a gun looking for trouble. zimmerman's behavior made the situation happen
how can you possibly look at martin's behavior and not at all consider zimmerman's behavior? zimmerman's behavior was the behavior that created the whole situation. then, when martin got upset with a creepy weirdo stalking him, as many of us would, the creep killed him
trayvon martin should be in jail for assault
but the reason he is dead is because some mouth breathing moron thinks he has a right to walk around with a gun and play cop on innocent civilians going about their business. that's the problem, that mentality, and that is the reason why an innocent man is dead. that we have laws that somehow support this disgusting behavior represents the downfall of this otherwise great nation
stand your ground laws, carry/ conceal laws: they have to go
and they will go
because one thing is true about wannabe tough guys: they look for trouble. there will be more trayvon martins. and eventually american society will wake up to the vile precedent this case represents. no civil society can tolerate wannabe tough guys walking around with a gun thinking they have a right to profile and stalk innocent people going about their normal business. trayvon martin is dead only because zimmerman had a hard on for confrontation and a gun
losers like zimmerman, empowered, represent nothing but cases of senseless pointless death in general society. no matter how many raging asocial scumbags like you see commenting all over this thread, and in society, who think and act like zimmerman: thinking they have a right to arm themselves and confront innocent civilians going about their business, the logic of what this precedent represents will dawn on the rest of us who can think clearly here
you don't arm cowards and let them police general society according to their prejudicial whims and feeble perceptions
not acceptable
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
Do they realize that the asteroid does not care, with even one atom, what the hell humans call it, or whether we classify it as an asteroid or just as a shoe tree?
And if it had sentient life on it, they'd probably have their own name for it and they would not care either what humans wanted to call it. Shoe tree or not.
This is a lesson for the future humans who will be the first human people to land on another inhabited planet: you don't get naming rights if there are already beings there. They get to name it. Not you. And you don't get to own/mine/wreck the place either. Natives or LGMs who got there first get to do that.
BTW: the search for life in Goldilocks is dumb. A sufficiently advanced civilization would have total control over their environment and could choose to change their habitat to make it more suitable, or they could live in space, or they could develop their species one place and move to another place to live (or live in multiple places), or maybe they all live in another dimension. The way humans have settled on this limited idea of where water exists life could exist and nowhere else... just shows we have no imagination at all. The LGMs are laughing at us like we might laugh at a caveman trying to make sense out of a tax form. But he is at least likely to eventually try to eat the tax form or figure out it makes a good fire. We're too busy naming asteroids. Carry on, human race!
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well, rich people take advantage of anti-social 'ron paul' internet dorks like Snowden and /.'s Obama haters...they ride their hateful ignorance like a fucking wave...it's embarassing to see...
more to our neighborhood...here on /. it's either full-on post bots or trolls...they troll from the perspective of a jealousy and anger. men today have been robbed of alot of agency that evolution granted us...physical superiority means virtually nothing in the battle of the sexes now...we have to exist in a social environment we're not evolutionarily optimized for...men are by a large margin in human history the killers of the tribe...women stay behind...
well not anymore...now the richest men are like Zuckerberg...so there you go...
it's about evolution and bloodlust...and an ancient aristocracy that takes advantage of predictable human failings such as that to establish generational revenue streams...
it takes a level of maturity and self-respect to take responsibility for taking the wrong policy position and *changing*...that's another part of it...they just cant admit when they are wrong so they have to continually bullshit themselves to justify their existence...
we have to call it out when we see it then move on...identify and evacuate...
Thank you Dave Raggett
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"When Putnam originally suggested the name to Minor Planet Center, they responded, "That's real retarded, sir."
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Why can't you admit that it's a great idea:
1. We don't want an asteroid in our neighborhood.
2. It will probably chase Earth down and give us a beating.
...and now we know why.
not even close...c'mon AC/troll
literally...you're out of your fucking mind of you think this is true
Thank you Dave Raggett
So exactly what African American rights is it that William Lowell Putnam III says his family has identified with, and why are they any different than the rights any other person living in the US has? Is it the right to beat up someone because you find them creepy?? To pummel someone just because you think they are following you, even though they haven't made any overtly threatening moves? Simple because someone is a racist and thinks that if a light skinned person is following them the 'crackah' must be up to no good??
.. name your asteroid Trayvon. It will still be an insignificant speck of dust in the universe. Kind of fitting really ... an insignificant asteroid named for someone that tried to kill someone else. That if he had lived could very well be in jail by now.
Or is it some other made-up rights that I'm not aware of???
It's only controversial to those that tried their best to turn it into a race thing instead of a self-defense thing. The racists that forced Florida to have a wasted trial with no real evidence for the prosecution just to appease so many racists. Those that want to ignore the evidence presented in court and play 'what if' games that don't use any facts at all but assumptions made my people who weren't even there.
Go ahead
I rarely read replies, it's my opinion and if you thought about your opinion a little more, I'm OK with that.
name one O.J. while you're at it.
Nonsense. Famous scientist, Galileo, discovered the 4 major moons of Jupiter, and named them after the Medici familiy. Sure, later people refused to honor Galileo's names. Astrologers have worked for the rich and powerful throughout history, working please to their benefactors.
Maybe a Congressman, or a rich celebrity (Spike Lee?), gave some money, or has some pull over the Lowell Observatory, merely following a long, established tradition.
The way humans have settled on this limited idea of where water exists life could exist and nowhere else... just shows we have no imagination at all.
How many scientists say that life will only be found in the Goldilocks zone? Or are you just confusing the idea of looking for what we understand first, trying to get the low hanging fruit, for saying that is the only place to look?
maybe they all live in another dimension.
And what do you propose we do right now with a typical science project budget to find such aliens? Do you have any actual solutions that are on par as something as easy as looking at spectroscopic data?
he in the outer space now now
Stand your sky!
Table-ized A.I.
We'll have a proper target for testing asteroid-busting weapons. We'll build a Zimmerman-1 multimegaton nuke with enhanced penetrator and bust it into little rocks. Stand your Earth!
Geeks are so full of shit that "beating the crap out of them" takes a whole new meaning.
It seems everyone wants their bit of drama and news headlines these days. Nothing is sacred anymore - doing things with a modicum of respect and class is too boring.
Having said that, science doesn't have to be completely serious all the time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9007_James_Bond)
"Holy crap! A weapon just floating in space!"
Trying to name an asteroid after Martin is an overt political act that has no place in the naming of such bodies. It's absurd and wrong.
13% of the US population kills almost Twice as many as 70% of population(Black vs White only)
White Kills Black
Black Kills White
But this
Black Kills Black
White Kills White
The totals here are not that different, but if Whites killed at the same rate as Blacks, were close to 200,000
I did not know that the sky is property of United States.
How about Finland name some object "Aki Sirkesalo"?
Zimmerman was patrolling a GATED community in which Martin himself also lived as far as I know. I don't like the idea of gated communities but if you live in one, you basically agree with neighborhood watches.
Zimmerman HAD the right to play cop given to him by everyone who choose to live in that GATED community, including Martin.
And Martin only lived there because he was a thug wannabe and had been kicked out by his parents.
It is clear where you loyalties lie, you believe Martin should be able to do whatever he want, up to and including crime and nobody has a right to say "not in my neighborhood". Zimmerman was patrolling for a reason, crime had gone up. Oddly enough just after Martin moved in, Martin who on his phone had evidence of several crimes.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Named for Danish film director Morten Lindberg would be cool.
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
I think it's fucking stupid and fuck both trayvon and zimmerman, they're both equally responsible for what happened.
The issue is, does he who discovers get to name or not? Anything else is just mental masturbation. Let him call it cunt wagon delux if he wants.
No contact details could be found for either the owner, or the observatory, but at least here is their Facebook page: linkie
Trayvon Martin was clearly a violent criminal. Why in the world does anyone feel sorry for that creep. He was attempting to murder Mr. Zimmerman when he was shot. Is that really hard to understand?
http://penny-arcade.com/comic/2012/05/07
naming anything in space is laughable when you consider what you are in relation to it.
Good people go to bed earlier.
http://www.startribune.com/local/minneapolis/222159581.html
A man who followed an intoxicated man down Hennepin Avenue in Minneapolis was joined by two others before one punched him in the face and stole his cellphone as he lay unconscious and bleeding on the sidewalk, according to charges against one of the suspects.
Assteroid Trayvon?
Sure why not immortalize a young man that was nothing more than a thug, punk, thief and drug user attacking a Latino guy. There are many more people deserving of such than him.
My karma is not a Chameleon.
How about just NO.
If it does ever head to Earth, it too will be a shooting star.
I'd prefer a Star named DELBERT BELTON.
A real everyday hero instead of a thug.
Not just different. Wildly different. Here almost everyone sides with the self-defense (established) theory. The few exceptions are on the whole suspiciously grammar-impaired.
In the general public it's the opposite, starting from Tricky Baracky who feels a strong sense of identity with the aggressor (did he often use the term "cracker" as a pot-smoking teenager?).
You may have guessed the "different from" sign disappeared from the subject of my post.
A martyr is someone who dies for a noble cause, isn't it?
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They want to name an asteroid for a teenager who was shot while attacking someone, a teenager whose own phone showed him to be a violent punk with history of attacking people including his bus driver and wanted to illegally purchase a hand gun? I can only guess they like criminals.
No. It's someone who is killed for their, usually religious, beliefs. Nobleness of how they died is not a factor.
Ah. I thought a martyr could be someone who stood for a political or social cause as well. Someone who died for something, because they were just trying to do what they thought was right.
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I've found that most people who are defensive of Trayvon Martin tend to live in safe suburban communities or heavily gentrified urban centers. What this means is that they really have no clue what it's really like in lower income areas beyond what they see in movies and hear in the news.
So when people suggest there's a serious problem in these communities it gets dismissed as stereotyping. And what problems are acknowledged are always blamed on the establishment. But no one ever looks at the communities themselves. There are a lot of kids out there who while aren't outright criminals are indeed thuggish assholes like Trayvon. They're the kinds of kids who won't back down because they don't want to look like a punk, and so end up in way over their heads.
I happen to live in an area that straddles the divide between a nicer, more affluent community and a crap area with a lot of low income housing. There's a pervasive lack of respect and manners amongst the kids in those low income neighborhoods. It's not all of them, but it's far too many. Do something as innocuous as jogging, especially as a white guy, and inevitably some asshole will heckle you. There's this persistent tendency to lash out at anything they perceive as different. And mind you, I'm not talking about outright crime here, but that's often the inevitable trajectory.
But ultimately, who's fault is this? It's the parents who don't give a shit about raising their kids properly. Where were Trayvon's parents as he was growing up? They're complicit in their son's death because if they had raised him properly he'd be less likely to seek out confrontation and he probably wouldn't have even been in that situation at all because he'd be doing something more responsible.
The frustrating bit in all this is that instead of identifying the real problems with the culture we're all fixated on nonsense. Inevitably people are going to the scapegoat and trotting out the victimization card. Same old garbage and so the problems never end.
It's fitting in a way because if that asteroid threatens earth we are going to use our weapons to destroy it in order to defend our lives. Seriously though this makes me sick to my stomach. Trayvon was a punk with a record and he was not some innocent martyr to black people but was instead a hoodlum who assaulted the wrong guy.
Oh wait...black people hate the gay.
http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2008-11-07/politics/36807003_1_marriage-issue-gay-rights-advocates-civil-rights
This would be the ultimate in PC stupidity. I would rather name an asteroid after Neil deGrasse Tyson. Not only is he a more worthy honoree, but an observatory should suggest honorees that are relevant to their own science.
Have you ever found any one dumb enough to buy it. Except for those small, cowardly, little men that feel the need to carry guns in the case that their over inflated sense of adequacy blows up in their face. I'm afraid that, despite your attempts at making them seem significant, most sane adults know better than endangering everyone else around them by carrying a manhood replacement.
in desperate need of a penis extension does not mean anything , and only provides a brief bit of entertainment for the grownups.
Then we can use asteroid Trayvon for target practice as well! :)
Earth is in imminent danger from it and we can blast it to bits
Injecting highly controversial politics into naming celestial objects is an excellent idea.
I wholeheartedly support this. Unless it's against my team. Then I wholeheartedly hate it.
Bad Idea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfReCoRRIow
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The problem with the "blame the victim" charge for drunk rape victims is that this has been used against alleged perpetrators when there was no rape.
Drunken rape really has two scenarios, that some advocates unfairly treat as equal:
1) woman goes out, gets drunk, says no, is forced -- actual rape
2) woman goes out, gets drunk, goes home with guy, regrets it in the morning when sober, cries rape -- not actual rape
confusing things worse is case 3
3) woman goes out, gets drunk, hooks up with equally drunk guy, neither remembers exactly what happened, other than there was some sex, woman cries rape -- who know what the hell happened, maybe we should ban alcohol, or stupidity or something, can you people behave???
At some point, the principle of "innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt" needs to kick in. Case 3 certainly has doubt. Differentiating between 1 and 2 is definitely a problem, but I don't think the solution is "always believe the woman".
Probably best for men and women to avoid getting that inebriated. Your putting your fate in the hands of an RNG.
If you want to call and express your opinion, here is their outreach manager's contact info:
Kevin Schindler phone # : 928-233-3210
email: kevin@lowell.edu
I haven't read all of the comments - 300+ of people bitching about a court case that's done and buried ruined the rest of the posts for me :p
Wouldn't it just be crazy if the name were approved, then the asteroid ended up on a collision course with Earth requiring us to shoot it? SYG FTW!
You have corroborated factual evidence wrong. Your opinion is moot. Try back again after you educate yourself.
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why not osama bin laden? if we gonna start honoring criminals, go big.
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
That's because your definition of "US public" is formed by the TV, newspapers and websites you get information from. Which, judging by your picture of it, are mostly left-wing.
Note, I'm not on an "evil librul" drive here. I'm a social democrat myself (albeit one who respects 2A and carries himself). I read both mainstream and fringe media from both left and right, and one thing that was clear in Martin/Zimmerman case was that there was no consensus (informed or otherwise) on it in US - as it was generally misappropriated to rally people to the cause of gun control (and against "stand your ground" laws) and for black civil rights, neither of which have anything to do with the actual case at hand. So people formed along the usual political front lines on all of these issues - liberals ranting about how racist crazies get guns and go shoot up poor black kids, and conservatives ranting about how [black] thugs high on drugs ruin our neighborhoods, rape our women and threaten our children. All the usual drivel.
Meanwhile, those who have actually followed the case and looked into the details quickly found out that 1) stand your ground was not involved at all, 2) there was no racial bias involved, or at least there's no evidence to conclude that way, and 3) regardless of the irresponsible behavior of both actors, legally, Zimmerman was in the clear. Hence the purported "pro-Zimmerman bias" - which is really not a bias in favor of the guy, but rather just a factual assessment of the case. I suspect there is a higher proportion of people verifying data and reaching this conclusion on Slashdot compared to your typical discussion board, just because there are more skeptics here in general.
I'm on team MLK. This Slashdot story infers Lowell Observatory is not on team MLK, but rather on team Politically Correct.
As pointed out here:
http://youtu.be/Ebu6Yvzs4Ls
Gives me pause to reflect how far away from Powell's perspective and ideals Mr Putman as trustee has evolved ... I visited Powell last year (an amateur astronomer of sorts) and was impressed to learn it was private sector support that got the facility off the ground and private sector support that keeps it running ... not government largess.
Honoring a pot-smoking, violence-prone teenager? Seriously?
Normally I'm against honoring people who died due to their misdeeds. So instead how about we just name the asteroid "Dead Nigger"?
trying to shoot it down
What does Tray mean? Why do we need to rename astriod
Here we go...see, I'm only 34 but I feel 68 because this basic knowledge you stated...it *used* to be common knowledge...
Now, I just can't think of a clearer way to say it...men have gone soft...
That's what makes them 'lash out' and buy expensive assault rifles...nerd rage...
The real number of deadly street fights is easily below .00001%
By the current legal definition of 'assault'...and excluding domestic assault or robberty type stuff, there are thousands of bar scuffles in any given weekend in a college town.
I know, I've been in a few myself. It sucks and is stupid and childish.
Zimmerman and Trayvon had words, to be sure, but absolutely no evidence was presented as to *who hit first*...Zimmerman didn't even take the stand to testify to it!
Where this is going is *more*...more little bitch wannabe cops (like Zimmerman) trying to 'draw the foul' on anyone that intimidates them or presents as a target for their self-aggrandizing.
We'll see it play out slowly, but in 10 years the stats will be clear...we'll see it in a rise of shootings by working and middle class white people that get caught up in court...other states will start having Zimmerman type shootings get publicity...court battles...
That's my opinion anyway...
Thank you Dave Raggett
Why stop with "Trayvon" (as in St. Trayvon, in Lowell's apparent cosmological estimation)? Let's cut to the chase and use the name Trayvon chose for his nickname: "No Limits Nigga". Puts everything in perspective, right? Let's not lose our perspective and "pretty" Trayvon up to assuage crippling white guilt....
also, big lesson here...anyone who has ever been in fights has had their ass kicked...it sucks
i agree that the process of fighting hard and losing control, getting beat up...then waking up the next day and dealing with it...it just seems like that *used* to be a right of passage for all boys...like grade school or middle school
it lets you know what is at stake in a fight...and encourages you to make it the last resort...b/c people. could. get. killed.
Thank you Dave Raggett
The racial hatred expressed in the comments on this site are shocking!
They should evaluate the judgmental capability of the astronomer who suggested the name though. To make maters more ridiculous the UN has demanded all records of the case so they can evaluate our judicial system and tell us what to do..
The jury was stupid and wanted to see him walk. In the jury's mind they bought the character assassination waged on Martin leading up to the trial to where Martin was labeled a "thug" and "dope addict". This was even though it was Zimmerman who had the police record for violence and was using the mood altering drugs Adderall and Temazepam on the night he murdered Martin.
As can be seen right here on Slashdot there are those who even today are prepared to believe the worse about Blacks and are ready to give a pass to those like Zimmerman who say the right words and present a narrative that fulfills certain preconceived notions in their minds.
gosgog:
Trayvon, was a kid who from everything I have read was bad.....walking thru that particular neighborhood, was where he didn't belong. Zimmerman got suspicious and that led to the altercation on Trayvon's part. Now, you get me down and start banging my head on the pavement and I have a pistol...BANG YOU'RE DEAD..DAMN RIGHT!!
In this case a bunch of STUPID BLACKS tried to make it a RACIST CASE....it wasn't, the BLACKS WERE THE RACISTS & now for the most part in some states in the U.S., RACISM is mainly perpetrated by a lot of Blacks.
In this case Lowell are stupid.
A "Trayvon" asteroid? Can we pander any lower?
They should call it "Skittles".
Dershowitz said the second-degree murder case should never have gone to trial considering the flimsy evidence against Zimmerman. He also does not believe it was strong enough to be submitted to a jury for deliberation.
âoeIf the judge had any courage in applying the law, she never would have allowed the case to go to the jury,â Dershowitz told Newsmax. âoeShe should have entered a verdict based on reasonable doubt.â
Dershowitz singled out special prosecutor Angela Corey for âoedisciplinary action.â
He criticized the stateâ(TM)s probable-cause affidavit for not including evidence indicating Zimmerman could have been acting in self-defense, including graphic images of blood streaming from his scalp and nose.
âoeThe prosecutor had in her possession photographs that would definitely show a judge that this was not an appropriate case for second-degree murder,â the Harvard professor told Newsmax. âoeShe deliberately withheld and suppressed those photographs, refused to show them to the judge, got the judge to rule erroneously this was a second-degree murder case.
âoeThat violated a whole range of ethical, professional, and legal obligations that prosecutors have. Moreover, they withheld other evidence in the course of the pretrial and trial proceedings, as has been documented by the defense team,â he said.
Dershowitz described the prosecutionâ(TM)s attempt late in the case to add a third-degree murder charge by asserting the shooting constituted child abuse âoeso professionally irresponsible as to warrant sanctions and investigations.â
Dershowitz said various legal and bar association organizations could investigate how the state handled the prosecution. He added it could warrant a federal investigation as well.
âoeI think peopleâ(TM)s rights have been violated,â the famed attorney told Newsmax, âoebut it was the rights of the defendant and the defense team, by utterly unprofessional, irresponsible, and in my view criminal actions by the prosecutor,â he said.
Looking at the mass of discussion, I think this will be relevant considering the subject matter of the article and discussion.
Before I start, dumb to name an asteroid after someone who made no contribution to the human race, especially since U believe he was guilty and got what he was asking for.
Now, onto my main point:
The Earth seems pretty big to us, right? Lots of land to squabble over, lots of reasons to hate the differences in people (no matter what skin color/beliefs you might have yourself). The Earth, when compared to the sun is actually quite tiny. The sun, as a star, is actually fairly small...indeed, compared to some stars, it is virtually to those stars as the Earth is to it. If not smaller than that comparison.
Even those super-massive stars are tiny compared to a Galaxy. And Galaxies are tiny when compared to the universe.
To sum this up; our petty hatreds and greed is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Humanity, as a whole, needs to grow up and end the sandbox fight we've been embroiled in since virtually the dawn of our race.
What's done is done. Stop trying to reignite the hatred.
What a crock of shit.