I always wondered why people would consider living there. You really wont be able to live on the surface so you will be stuck indoors or in sealed caves (this is the foundation to just about every plausible colony plan) and basically no useful magnosphere to speak of.
To me this is the same as living on a space station, the moon or underwater. All of these are much cheaper, easier and safer. What am I missing? What does mars offer outside of just being "interesting"?
Well whatever profit he keeps he will pay income tax on so what is the problem. People are saying he is dodging taxes. I see it as he either gives the profit to charity or pays taxes on it. But that doent help anyone's argument so they leave that mechanism out of their rant. Regarding zuckerbergs dick... I have no opinion of him one way or another. Not even close to being a fanboy. I have friends with money and am fortunate enough to have a little myself and stand up to what I feel is unjust class warfare rich guy bashing when I see it.
I keep reading these comments about how he is another rich tax dodging fat cat that is screwing the poor etc. You know the usual bullshit...
Here is the reality (or at least my version of it). He put 45 billion of his own cash (he didnt have to) into a new business that will invest in whatever projects he believes will show promise and then donate ALL of the profits to the charities of his choosing. You greedy crybabies are crying because you cant choose what charities he donates to or what he invests in (via the government).
This class warfare crap they indoctrinate you with in school might be the real problem.
A smart guy is trying to do good with his own money in the most efficient way he can come up with and you are indignant because you cant spend HIS money YOUR way.
tesla's model has already had a real world test. Go buy an apple computer. You can buy direct from apple or a dealer. Its the same basic price. When the manufacturer competes with its dealers you pay the maximum price all the time at all the locations. It amazes me how so many people can not understand the reality of the world they are actually living in.
if chevy sells a car to a dealer for $16000 and the dealer after haggling and whatnot sell the car to me for $17600 then the dealer made their 10% profit. Cut out the dealer and buy from the manufacturer and they will just sell me the car direct for $17600. It is foolish to think anything else would happen.
The main difference is now my 10% has left my community and is being spent in detroit (or wherever). This whole idea "if I can just buy my coke directly from the man My drugs will be cheaper" is unrealistic. That is not how the world works or has ever worked.
If there were no dealers then I would have to just pay whatever chevy decides I should pay in my area. When I have 3 or 4 dealers to choose from then competition comes into play and I can get a better price. Its not a perfect system but it does serve a purpose.
France seems to be one extreme, but the US is the other extreme.
wait what? isnt like I dunno 70% of the nations waaaaaay worse than the usa... you know nigeria, china iraq etc. I understand that you have to bash on the usa to feel better about your lot in life but the fact is that about everybody I have ever know here is way better off than most of the world.
I'm sure if you asked people, "Should your cable and Internet provider be allowed to slow down Internet video services like Netflix and Youtube so that they can sell more of their own video services?" and they understood the President's decision, they would agree with the new policy. That is what we are talking about here, Obama standing up to monopoly power on behalf of people as he is supposed to (under anti-trust laws), not a President behaving like a monarch. You have been very ill served by whatever media you used to arrive at your conclusion.
Just so you know that is not what this is about. What he is proposing is a federal land grab to turn the internet into a utility. You like many others falsely assume that it will then hope-and-change its way into net neutrality but it will not. Being a republican, democrat etc is just a marketing strategy to get the job.... after that they become the ruling class and all decisions are made from that mindset. This is about monitoring communications and kingdom building.
It's a big country, and I'm sure there has to be some variance between values among people when you have a billion to choose from.
But...
Color me racist. No, please do. I really, really am.
India is a country where unwanted children are dumped like trash into the streets, corruption is considered normal and the atmosphere of hyper-competitiveness seems to push everybody's brain into a crazed kind of fight or flight mode which hampers every other human circuit. I can't be around Indian culture without wanting to hide under furniture to escape the crazy.
Wait. Hold on. This just in: Not racist, per se. Because, interestingly, people who are only one generation removed from that seething land mass are entirely capable of developing into excellent, entirely likable people who aren't completely batshit insane. So it's not genetic vile stupidity. It's cultural vile stupidity. Probably a lot like the heavy crime areas in the U.S. -Pull babies out of those places and raise them in bullet-free zones where people treat each other with dignity and love, and I'm sure you'll get fine, undamaged people that way also.
So, really, I don't care what genetic material you start with, if you force people to endure pressure-cooker lives of massive over-population limited resources and shitty infrastructure, combined with the momentum of hundreds of sustained years of dog-eat-dog corruption, you're going to end up with nothing but vast yields of psychologically damaged people.
India is a problem I don't know how to solve without basically wiping it clean of humans and starting again.
Maybe just the cities.
Folks in the rural areas sound less insane from the traveler's reports I've heard.
I rarely agree 100% with what someone posts here but.... ^^ this ^^
The illiteracy rate at 14 was still an average of over 3% in the 1930s, very much higher than now.
yes back then they had not discovered yet that it is just easier to redefine how to measure illiteracy than to teach better. We got that all fixed now though:)
Why are we so damned willing to spend money to kill people more efficiently and not to do science that positively impacts all our lives every day?
very simple.... all of our current problems stem from the fact that there are too many god damned people on the planet. Pretty soon we wont even have room to put all of the turds. The way I see it the military is the only group that has a viable solution to global warming.
increasing the minimum wage to advance the economy is like putting a fan in front of a windmill to increase output. There are plenty of people that would greenlight and fund that project but I think I would rather hold out for a better investment opportunity.
So in a way, what this law has done is made it illegal for a group with a weak lobby to determine how badly a group with a strong lobby is breaking the law.
no, it just prevents them from being asshats. I go fishing and hunting to get away from asshats.
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I always wondered why people would consider living there. You really wont be able to live on the surface so you will be stuck indoors or in sealed caves (this is the foundation to just about every plausible colony plan) and basically no useful magnosphere to speak of.
To me this is the same as living on a space station, the moon or underwater. All of these are much cheaper, easier and safer. What am I missing? What does mars offer outside of just being "interesting"?
So...we've got a company that runs a business by trading on someone else's misfortune.
Yeah like those bastards building wheelchairs and those god damned ambulance drivers. Get those capitalist sumbitches!!!
ffs it would be nice to go through an entire day without some dumbass activist babbling about something they know nothing about...
Well whatever profit he keeps he will pay income tax on so what is the problem. People are saying he is dodging taxes. I see it as he either gives the profit to charity or pays taxes on it. But that doent help anyone's argument so they leave that mechanism out of their rant. Regarding zuckerbergs dick... I have no opinion of him one way or another. Not even close to being a fanboy. I have friends with money and am fortunate enough to have a little myself and stand up to what I feel is unjust class warfare rich guy bashing when I see it.
I keep reading these comments about how he is another rich tax dodging fat cat that is screwing the poor etc. You know the usual bullshit...
Here is the reality (or at least my version of it). He put 45 billion of his own cash (he didnt have to) into a new business that will invest in whatever projects he believes will show promise and then donate ALL of the profits to the charities of his choosing. You greedy crybabies are crying because you cant choose what charities he donates to or what he invests in (via the government).
This class warfare crap they indoctrinate you with in school might be the real problem.
A smart guy is trying to do good with his own money in the most efficient way he can come up with and you are indignant because you cant spend HIS money YOUR way.
ford doesnt sell a corvette and chevy doesnt sell a gt40. Having fewer choices does not address the issue.
those people, that building and those costs will still be there. They will jut be owned by the manufacturer instead of someone else.
tesla's model has already had a real world test. Go buy an apple computer. You can buy direct from apple or a dealer. Its the same basic price. When the manufacturer competes with its dealers you pay the maximum price all the time at all the locations. It amazes me how so many people can not understand the reality of the world they are actually living in.
if chevy sells a car to a dealer for $16000 and the dealer after haggling and whatnot sell the car to me for $17600 then the dealer made their 10% profit. Cut out the dealer and buy from the manufacturer and they will just sell me the car direct for $17600. It is foolish to think anything else would happen. The main difference is now my 10% has left my community and is being spent in detroit (or wherever). This whole idea "if I can just buy my coke directly from the man My drugs will be cheaper" is unrealistic. That is not how the world works or has ever worked.
If there were no dealers then I would have to just pay whatever chevy decides I should pay in my area. When I have 3 or 4 dealers to choose from then competition comes into play and I can get a better price. Its not a perfect system but it does serve a purpose.
oh ffs...
France seems to be one extreme, but the US is the other extreme.
wait what? isnt like I dunno 70% of the nations waaaaaay worse than the usa... you know nigeria, china iraq etc. I understand that you have to bash on the usa to feel better about your lot in life but the fact is that about everybody I have ever know here is way better off than most of the world.
As far as I can tell the cost of a Toyota Corolla is basically the same number of dollars as it was 10 years ago...
So some software guys could not solve a really hard problem in the physical world better than the energy guys? And nobody saw that coming (shocked)
"What would you bring? "
A girl!
I believe this is an idiotic boondoggle.
I'm sure if you asked people, "Should your cable and Internet provider be allowed to slow down Internet video services like Netflix and Youtube so that they can sell more of their own video services?" and they understood the President's decision, they would agree with the new policy. That is what we are talking about here, Obama standing up to monopoly power on behalf of people as he is supposed to (under anti-trust laws), not a President behaving like a monarch. You have been very ill served by whatever media you used to arrive at your conclusion.
Just so you know that is not what this is about. What he is proposing is a federal land grab to turn the internet into a utility. You like many others falsely assume that it will then hope-and-change its way into net neutrality but it will not. Being a republican, democrat etc is just a marketing strategy to get the job.... after that they become the ruling class and all decisions are made from that mindset. This is about monitoring communications and kingdom building.
"Report: Federal Workers, Contractors Behind Half of Government Cyber Breaches"
Since the government employs about half of the people in the US this is probably statistically correct for anything :)
It's a big country, and I'm sure there has to be some variance between values among people when you have a billion to choose from.
But...
Color me racist. No, please do. I really, really am.
India is a country where unwanted children are dumped like trash into the streets, corruption is considered normal and the atmosphere of hyper-competitiveness seems to push everybody's brain into a crazed kind of fight or flight mode which hampers every other human circuit. I can't be around Indian culture without wanting to hide under furniture to escape the crazy.
Wait. Hold on. This just in: Not racist, per se. Because, interestingly, people who are only one generation removed from that seething land mass are entirely capable of developing into excellent, entirely likable people who aren't completely batshit insane. So it's not genetic vile stupidity. It's cultural vile stupidity. Probably a lot like the heavy crime areas in the U.S. -Pull babies out of those places and raise them in bullet-free zones where people treat each other with dignity and love, and I'm sure you'll get fine, undamaged people that way also.
So, really, I don't care what genetic material you start with, if you force people to endure pressure-cooker lives of massive over-population limited resources and shitty infrastructure, combined with the momentum of hundreds of sustained years of dog-eat-dog corruption, you're going to end up with nothing but vast yields of psychologically damaged people.
India is a problem I don't know how to solve without basically wiping it clean of humans and starting again.
Maybe just the cities.
Folks in the rural areas sound less insane from the traveler's reports I've heard.
I rarely agree 100% with what someone posts here but.... ^^ this ^^
One could argue that the right to bear arms is what allows you to be openly gay. Its almost ironical and shit. :)
The illiteracy rate at 14 was still an average of over 3% in the 1930s, very much higher than now.
yes back then they had not discovered yet that it is just easier to redefine how to measure illiteracy than to teach better. We got that all fixed now though :)
Why are we so damned willing to spend money to kill people more efficiently and not to do science that positively impacts all our lives every day?
very simple.... all of our current problems stem from the fact that there are too many god damned people on the planet. Pretty soon we wont even have room to put all of the turds. The way I see it the military is the only group that has a viable solution to global warming.
(makes popcorn and gets comfortable)
increasing the minimum wage to advance the economy is like putting a fan in front of a windmill to increase output. There are plenty of people that would greenlight and fund that project but I think I would rather hold out for a better investment opportunity.
good luck with that though....
They will pay for themselves in ~2yrs, after that initial investment it's virtually free compared to coal.
No they wont.... no it isn't
so they sell shares of their evil coal stocks but dont cut the power lines coming into their campus. Yawn... more pr bullshit from academics....
So in a way, what this law has done is made it illegal for a group with a weak lobby to determine how badly a group with a strong lobby is breaking the law.
no, it just prevents them from being asshats. I go fishing and hunting to get away from asshats.
Can we just start calling them PITA now?