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Can Even Apple Make a Watch Insanely Smart?

theodp writes "Throwing some cold water on the buzz surrounding the Galaxy Gear Smartwatch launch, The New Yorker's Matt Buchanan questions how smart a watch can really be. Calling offerings like the Galaxy Gear useful but not the stuff of dreams and revolutions, Buchanan writes, 'So there remains a strange undercurrent of hope that somebody-Apple-will figure out, soon, some grander vision for wearable technology, transforming it from something that people have vaguely imagined into something people intensely desire. It did it for smartphones, once, and again, for tablets. The question that Apple has been charged with, since nobody has definitively answered it yet, is whether the lack of an invention that truly carries us beyond the last five hundred years of wrist-mounted technology is the result of a failure of imagination or simply a fact of nature-that a watch will always just be a watch, no matter how smart it might think it is.' So, will you be an early adopter and drink Samsung's or Sony's smartwatch Kool-Aid, wait to see what Apple comes up with, or hold out for a Windows Forearm Pad 8?"

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  1. missing the point by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It doesn't have to be "incredibly smart". It just has to be smart in the right places.

    The original iPhone didn't really do anything that wasn't available elsewhere already. But it bundled the proper things together in the proper way and had the proper design to make it all work well. I had owned several PDAs before, but the iPhone was the PDA I had always wanted.

    Same for the watch. My bet is that while everyone else is working on cramming as much crap into the watch as possible. Apple is busy making sure there is no crap on it, only the right mix of the right stuff you really want on your wrist.

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    1. Re:missing the point by halexists · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Amen.

      When you look at the iPhone, Apple figured out how to make it do stuff people craved to do over and over, but not gadgety stuff that sounds sci-fi cool and you only want to try out once. The Samsung watch has a LOT of cool tech packed into it, but reported lagginess will kill it in the market. Nobody wants to wait to interact with their watch.

      To expound on what the right mix of stuff probably is for a watch, the focus should be on things that people will want to do multiple times a day, and things that take less time than the same task on a smartphone (a tall order to be sure). The only way a "smartwatch" gains traction is by adding utility in two areas: 1) you couldn't do something without that specific form factor and 2) you could pull your phone out of your pocket/purse, but it's faster to just use the watch.

      That is a tall order of niche to fill with a device that will cost at least a couple of bills. And if it can't do those things reliably (i.e. pairing issues, responsiveness) then nobody cares. I would give Apple the best odds at pulling it off if anyone can in this decade.

    2. Re:missing the point by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Simply having a lot of crap is not the problem. High end Android phones have a lot of features, but you can easily manage them and turn off the ones you don't want. Customizability is key, making the phone work according to the user's preferences and with the features they want.

      With Apple it's Apple's way or the highway. That's fine if your needs and preferences happen to match Apple's.

      I just hope that there are standards for smart watches, and interoperability. Obviously Apple's watch will be Apple only, but I'm hoping Android will be better as it seems that "smart peripherals" like Glass are where we are headed (no pun intended).

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    3. Re:missing the point by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You, Sir, have no idea what the heck you are talking about.

      You still think that technology matters, but it frankly doesn't, or very little. It's not who has the coolest widgets, it is who can make it work.

      All the PDAs at that time, all of them, without exception, were toys. Average people wouldn't touch one with a ten foot pole. Heck, I'm an IT guy and I considered them barely useable. In fact, for serious stuff I even moved back to paper and pen.

      The iPhone was, above all, useable. No, more then that, it was a pleasure to use. That's why it essentially started the smartphone market even though smartphones had been around for quite a while already.

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    4. Re:missing the point by Osgeld · · Score: 2

      PDA's had already blown up and went away by the time the iPhone came out, without network connections they were useless, and a number of units before the iPhone proved that point.

      Lets also not kid outselves, without the latest n greatest technology your iPhone would be 3/4 inch thick, contain a resistive touch 65k color screen and run for 3 hours on a 1 lb battery. People want stuff that works, but they also want stuff that doesnt suck so having the latest zippy, or the biggest gb is very much a part of product appeal (apple gets that, dont know why IT guy doesnt)

  2. Smart watch not such a smart idea by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The trouble everyone is grappling with here is that they want a smart watch to be some kind of smartphone-like thing. We've seen it work in comics, right? Dick Tracey and all. The only trouble is that the size of things people want to put on their wrists isn't big enough for much of a display, isn't big enough for much of a data entry device and isn't big enough for much of a battery. You just can't pack a lot of function on there, much less do it attractively, much less do it in a form factor where it becomes a fashion accessory, particularly for ladies since ladies are used to tiny watches.

  3. Re:First of all the Betteridge Obligatory: by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm not so quick in discounting them, even though the effect of Steve's passing has been quite obvious.

    But Apple never was a one-man show, even though he took the spotlight. From all I know, Steve's strength was not in designing or creating anything, but in inspiring others and, most importantly, his ability to cut through the crap to the core issues and to kill anything that sucked. Where other companies spend time and resources on bad products (and sometimes even bring them to market), Steve would just kill it brutally with a few words and everyone could go back to making something good.

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  4. The Watch is so 20th c. by nightcats · · Score: 2

    Leave the wrist alone -- Let's focus on a different body part. How about a Smart-Truss? Who wouldn't want a 1.5 Ghz processor warming their junk? Cupertino, I expect a slice of the action for this idea....

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  5. Re:Wait by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think there are genuine use cases for it. Rather than keeping your phone in a pocket close to your body it can stay in your jacket or bag because you will definitely feel the watch vibrating. The watch will be audible in almost any clothing too, where as a phone in your bag can go unnoticed unless it's really, really loud.

    A watch would also be nice for doing things like contactless payments. I see a lot of people travelling on public transport paying with their phones, but I'd prefer to have a cheap watch I can brush against the payment pad instead of having to take my expensive phone out.

    For Google Now type notifications it might be nice as well. Kind of like how Glass shows you stuff all the time, but less intrusive and maybe more socially acceptable.

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  6. Re:Wait by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 3, Informative

    Most of those things you mentioned fail for the watch use case though.

    Contact-less payments are a nightmare - the possibility of an unintentional scan is pretty damn high. Ah you say, but you'll require you to authenticate - well ok, but now you've turned a one-handed action (remove phone from pocket, press "allow" and swipe) into a two-handed action (hold hand against scanner, use other hand to press "allow" on the watch face").

    The Watch is a really terrible form factor for pretty much anything that's not passive, because there is no possible way to control it with the hand of the arm it's worn on - it takes things which only need one hand on your smart phone to implicitly involving two.

  7. Re:Already Got One by geogob · · Score: 2, Funny

    You probably meant to say "we, at pebble, already produce and sell a similar product that might interest some of you as a nice alternative to the product discussed here. You can read more about it at http://oursite.com/"

    At least do it honneslty if you want to place your product. People, especially on tech sites, are always open to interesting products... If presented the right way. Now you just look like a lamer that doesn't understand what we want and do not want. How can I trust you to know what I want as an intelligent watch.

    Please go sleep over this.

  8. The Interface, Stupid by Ed+The+Meek · · Score: 2

    It's all about the interface. If you can interface well with the watch to accomplish the task - it should be a winner.

  9. Re:Already Got One by DJRikki · · Score: 4, Informative
  10. Re:Wait by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Japanese phones with contactless payment allows you to pre-authorize certain services. For example you could pre-authorize Japan Rail, then when you want to use the train you just brush against the payment pad as you go through the barrier. No danger of accidentally paying for anything else.

    In any case I don't think the accidental payment issue is a major one. There have been incidents of it happening but only because the payment machines have had too much range. Once the banks get on top of that an make sure the machines only work up to about 10mm it will be fine. The banks are obviously keen to prevent accidental payments and improve the customer's experience, and so are the retailers because it costs them money when it happens. The system has been in use in Japan for a decade now and works just fine, the teething problems having long since been worked out.

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  11. "five hundred years of wrist-mounted technology?" by jageryager · · Score: 2

    According to wiki:

    Patek Philippe created the first wristwatch in 1868 for Countess Koscowicz of Hungary.

    Too bad Job wasn't still around. He could "reinvent" that wristwatch.

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  12. Omate TrueSmart: Water-resistant standalone Smartw by Darri · · Score: 2

    Here is one I think has real potential:

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/omate/omate-truesmart-water-resistant-standalone-smartwa

    It was mentioned here on /. not long ago:

    http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/13/08/26/0454236/omate-truesmart-watch-stands-alone-no-phone-required

    They have already reached some amazing stretch goals, such as Sapphire Crystal Glass, and are
    aiming for further ones, like 720p video recording.

  13. Wearable information Technology and the Watch by adam.sys · · Score: 2

    I've been working on wearable computers since 1994 (http://www.media.mit.edu/wearables/lizzy/oranchak/witintro.html) and I believe strongly in the concept. The smart phone has delivered nearly all the promise we had hoped for except hands-free operation. The cell phone watch is not new. I bought one that was made in China and wore it for years. In fact, I showed that watch at the Gadget Show during the 2008 International Symposium of Wearable Computers in Pittsburgh and I had been using for a couple of years at that point.

    The watch doesn't offer a purely hands free experience, true, but I never lost that phone; I still have it. Answering calls is possible with the watch alone but a bluetooth headset is much more preferable. Nobody knew it was a phone until I received a call. That was generally followed by shock and amazement. I used it to track my billing hours. It was always there. It was pretty great, really.

    The adoption of wearables has always been hampered by fashion strangeness. The watch format does a nice job of dealing with that. The screen size is challenging. Mine had a tiny little stylus and using it was merely possible and not much more. But, I could have a meeting with clients and nobody ever questioned it. When I wore my first wearable to its public opening, somebody on the subway asked if it was a bomb. The early wearables made the wearer self conscious in public; you had to be prepared to be stared at.

    One of the early concepts proposed by Motorola was a constellation of devices that, together in synergy, becomes a full on wearable computer. That, I believe, was the project that first floated the idea of an ear bud headset. They, too, seemed strange at first but they have become widely adopted. That's where we are heading.

    So, now, the electronics have gotten smaller, power consumption reduced to the point where battery bulk is reasonable, and infrastructure is in place to support wearable computers. Wearables are becoming real. Yet, there are still challenges. We hoped that head mounted displays would be key but we are still struggling with them. That's a field that I have been working on for the last decade. I know the challenges intimately and we are not there yet. In the meantime, the watch format is a viable intermediate step.

    As for Apple coming to save the day: Frankly, I don't understand why people are so enamored with their offerings. They don't do anything different in my opinion. I prefer the Android approach that "opens the innovation tent" to everyone willing to give it a shot.

  14. Re:Another Fail by GrumpySteen · · Score: 3, Informative

    Wrist watches is a technology only about 100 years old

    Patek Philippe created the first wristwatch in 1868 for Countess Koscowicz of Hungary., so 145 years.

    That said, the smartass reporter did some research; Wearable watches date back about 500 years, but they appear to have been worn as necklaces (Flavor-Flav in the 16th century yo) rather than on the wrist. He just confused wearable with wrist-mounted.

  15. Re:Wait by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's Japan. You think American banks give a shit about improving customers' experiences? I think not.

  16. Apple is a software company by sjbe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Frankly, I don't understand why people are so enamored with their offerings.

    Because they are well made, easy to use, have a well thought out interface and for the most part require very little fiddling to work. My 94 year old technologically illiterate grandmother is able to effectively utilize an iPad while at the same time I am able to get what I want out of an iPhone and I'm about big a tech geek as you are likely to run into. What makes Apple products attractive and different is the software.

    They don't do anything different in my opinion.

    Ahh but they do and those differences are what people are willing to pay for. What you have to understand is that Apple is fundamentally a software company. Steve Jobs himself has said so explicitly. What is different about Apple's products is the software and what it does. It's not so much about them doing tasks that no one else can do as it is how they do those tasks. Apple (usually) provides a well designed and well executed experience and software is how they tie it all together. People buy Macs for the software - the hardware is barely different from PCs from Dell or HP. People buy iPods, iPhones and iPads for the software. The hardware isn't much different from the competition and in fact some competitors have rather slavishly copies Apple's designs. What Apple does differently is found in their software.

    I prefer the Android approach that "opens the innovation tent" to everyone willing to give it a shot.

    Nothing wrong with that but there are positives as well as drawbacks. If you are someone (like me and probably you) who really likes to fiddle with your gear then Android might very well be a better choice. But for my non-tech savvy relatives who just want a smartphone I point them at an iPhone. Not everyone wants to endlessly mess around with arcane features of their phones. Apple's products aren't for everyone but Apple has never pretended that they were. That said they sell an awful lot of product so they clearly are doing something that appeals to a lot of people.

  17. Wearable Apple = iClothes by bazorg · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is one thing that Apple could do that a conventional electronic devices or software house competitor cannot: shift the discussion from wearable tech to pieces of fashionable clothing. If we think about it, the white earbuds are a fashion item as much as an accessory for MP3 players. People made or adapted existing bracelets to wear the iPod Nano as a wristwatch. Loads of armbands were built to accommodate wearing iPods and iPhones when exercising. Nike has sensors for shoes that link up with the current generation of iPod. The tech part they've got nailed already (Sony, Samsung, Apple, Google, ... all of them). Getting people to wear it without looking silly is the challenge and has been for a long time.

    What Apple can do rather than try to out-gadget the gadget makers is to design beautiful items of clothing that have the right pockets in the right places to carry the iPhone. Maybe some way to get a microphone and headphones built in to make calls and chat with Siri. There's always money for fashion items and I suspecct that Apple fanboy/girl would be happy to wear the team's colours. Pay £150 for a turtleneck? No problem. They can all wear the same model of iClothes until next year's is released. It would be a bit like Star Trek, with everyone on the planet wearing the same type of clothes.

  18. The smartest watch is dumb by Misagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think that what a smartwatch needs to be is as a "companion device" to a phone, and nothing more.
    It needs a screen, two buttons (or areas to tap) for "Yes" and "No" and low-bandwidth communication with the phone. The phone tells the watch what to display and what the buttons mean. The watch then needs only to reply with "Message understood, displaying screen", "Yes" and "No". That's it.
    All the "killer apps" that a smartwatch could be used for require those things and nothing more.

    The Samsung watch and many stand-alone smartwatches are too powerful, too feature-rich and already too bloated. The Samsung watch is already too large to wear comfortably on the wrist. Has anyone mentioned battery life yet? My Casio has a battery life measured in years.

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  19. Re: Steve Jobs on your Wrist... by dk20 · · Score: 2

    What about the 900 million who can speak mandarin?

    Language - Percent of World Population
    Mandarin 12.44%
    Spanish 4.85%
    English 4.83%
    Arabic 3.25%
    Hindi 2.68%
    Bengali 2.66%
    Portuguese 2.62%
    Russian 2.12%
    Japanese 1.80%
    German 1.33%
    Javanese 1.25%
    Others 61.17%

  20. Team effort? by nanospook · · Score: 2

    I wouldn't be surprised if the managers at Apple are all so busy watching each other and playing court politics that innovation is dead. Jobs was very vocal and out there about what was good and bad for his company and what he liked and didnt like. I hear the new guy has nothing to say unless hes pissed. Good luck Apple..

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  21. Re: Steve Jobs on your Wrist... by shadowrat · · Score: 2

    i had 3 years of others in high school. i never really did learn the verbs.

  22. Re:Steve Jobs on your Wrist... by MrKaos · · Score: 2

    The Apple iWatch will have a 3D avatar of Steve Jobs on its screen at all times. This will make the iWatch "Insanely Smart".

    The innovation will be that it's actually called "myWatch" and Apple will extract royalties directly from your account on the use of the name every time it records you saying "let me check my watch". Apple stocks will soar!

    Later software updates (that you have to agree with so that you can continue to use your music collection that you don't own) will extract royalties every time you think it.

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  23. Re: Steve Jobs on your Wrist... by fatgraham · · Score: 2

    Javanese is the overly excited language programmers speak at around 10am after 4 cups of coffee right?

  24. ugh by nomadic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Even Apple"? Apple has never been cutting edge in terms of technology. They're good at physical design and interfaces but they have never really done anything groundbreaking. While you can argue this is an interface issue, while Apple is good at improving them they aren't really good at coming up with innovative new ones.

  25. Re:Another Fail by Plumpaquatsch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nothing is funnier than a Techno Hipster making fun of somebody wearing a wrist watch while he unpacks his phablet to check the time.

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  26. Re:First of all the Betteridge Obligatory: by Tom · · Score: 2

    If your company relies on the CEO to be the final QA, you have a bigger problem.

    Other companies would kill for having the problems that Apple had during the past decade. So your point is?

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