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Evidence of 100,000-Year-Old Life Found In Antarctic Subglacial Lake

Researchers taking advantage of retreating ice shelves in Antarctica have discovered evidence of life that's been sealed away for nearly 100,000 years. Lake Hodgson on the Antarctic Peninsula, once covered by over 400 meters of ice, is now obscured only by a thin layer three to four meters thick. Scientists carefully drilled through the ice and took samples (abstract) from the layers of mud at the bottom (as much as 93 meters below the lake's surface). "The top few centimetres of the core contained current and recent organisms which inhabit the lake but once the core reached 3.2 m deep the microbes found most likely date back nearly 100,000 years. ... Some of the life discovered was in the form of Fossil DNA showing that many different types of bacteria live there, including a range of extremophiles which are species adapted to the most extreme environments. These use a variety of chemical methods to sustain life both with and without oxygen. One DNA sequence was related to the most ancient organisms known on Earth and parts of the DNA in twenty three percent has not been previously described."

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  1. Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by ackthpt · · Score: 3, Funny

    and like avian bird flu can take down humans, as well.

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    1. Re:Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The planet works best when is rebooted every 60-70 millon years, you know, cruft gets accumulated.

    2. Re:Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by Bengie · · Score: 2

      There's already bacteria in regular every-day soil that can not only survive in our strongest anti-biotics, but metabolize them. But don't worry, nearly all bacteria is benign.

    3. Re:Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...trash of society doing stupid things...

      Like going to Antarctica and digging up microorganisms?

    4. Re:Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by Iniamyen · · Score: 4, Funny

      *I* voted for Brontosaurus.

    5. Re:Watch it be the virus that killed the dinosaurs by instagib · · Score: 3, Funny

      The planet works best when is reinstalled every 60-70 millon years, you know, cruft gets accumulated.

      FTFY. Because the planet surely doesn't want to boot up with the same virus (=human) infested crap again.

  2. Re:most like 100,000 years by turbidostato · · Score: 2

    "have you heard of Nebuchadnezzar's dream?"

    Yes. It was about a hovercraft, and something about machines being the new overlords eating humans controlled under a matrix, wasn't it?

  3. Re:most like 100,000 years by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 3, Informative

    Link: carbon dating can't be trusted beyond 150 million years.

    Conclusion: The date of 100,000 years given here is wrong.

    If you'd taken time to scan the paper, you'd easily find the section on dating (2.2): "A chronological model was
    developed using a combination of radiocarbon, optically stimulated luminescence (OSL), and relative
    palaeomagnetic intensity dating. [...] OSL measurements suggested that material incorporated into the basal sediments might date to
    93,000 ± 9000 years ago."

    I.e. the 100,000 years is independent of carbon dating. (Actually, I'm surprised they even attempted carbon dating in this environment.)

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  4. Re:most like 100,000 years by mZHg · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most people think radio-dating is only done by carbon, they don't understand that we use different element in different context..
    They usually don't understand the principle of half-life and think we have to wait that time to measure it..
    Typical creationist argument ;)

  5. Reprieved ! by govett · · Score: 2

    To aliens from another planet, we humans might appear to be extremophiles. At least we'd be worthy of study. There's that.

    1. Re:Reprieved ! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not likely! While I don't really want to go through the exact details of it (I've had hilariously long and protracted conversations about this before), liquid water and the chemistry of the common non-metals (hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon) at temperatures where water is liquid have some fairly special properties that make them really well-suited to giving rise to life. Ammonia instead of water seems possible, but a few sci-fi staples like silicon-based lifeforms are extremely unlikely—and given the fickleness of what we know about abiogenesis, it's likely that any emergent life that starts off using anything unfamiliar will optimize toward something more similar to what we have. Strange things might be possible, but it's pretty likely alien life will be... compostable (if not edible) by us Earthlings.

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    2. Re:Reprieved ! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah, that's the biggest difference between "compostable" and "edible." There are a lot of detritovores that don't care about the chemicals they're chewing up; unless it's something toxic enough to kill them, anything just looks like a carbon chain in dire need of stripping. Molecules of the wrong chirality definitely fit in this category.

      That being said, chirality isn't the only thing that you can count on being totally arbitrary. The choice of amino acids is pretty fickle (humans only have 20, some species have two more, and we often modify them... and there is a more-or-less infinite number of them that nothing on Earth uses at all.) Nucleotides are similar, and the debate about nucleic acid backbones is open. There are countless opportunities for different preferences amongst sugars (we're designed around glucose, rather arbitrarily) and other metabolites. In a real-life validation of all of this, Archaeans don't even use normal phospholipids in their membranes! (Which seems like such a bizarrely difficult thing to do that I sometimes wonder if it isn't evidence of multiple abiogenesis events, but that's a bit flimsy.)

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    3. Re:Reprieved ! by delt0r · · Score: 2

      Something also left out is nucleosynthesis. Basically where does anything heaver than lithium come from. We have a pretty good idea on these processes. The upshot is that if you have silicon you are going to have carbon and other easier materials to deal with. Bottom line is that carbon is just really awesome and forming lots of different stable compounds and polymers and water is an amazing solvent.

      Also we tend to forget that life as we know it already uses most of the periodic table.

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    4. Re:Reprieved ! by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      Exactly; if, for some reason, some form of pre-life began using weird components like a nitrogen-phosphorus backbone or a silane backbone, it's almost certain there would be more Earth-like replacements more readily available—and there are already whole frickin' nebular clouds of bits and pieces of organic molecules, so it's not like the universe is really lacking in opportunities for this sort of thing anyway. Some arguments have been made about silicon perhaps being more viable at extreme temperatures and pressures, but I'm not convinced such an environment is stable enough for Baby Self-Replicating Molecule's First Steps.

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