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Promising Vaccine Candidate Could Lead To a Definitive Cure For HIV
Zothecula writes "A very promising vaccine candidate for HIV/AIDS has shown the ability to completely clear the simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), a very aggressive form of HIV that leads to AIDS in monkeys. Developed at the Vaccine and Gene Therapy Institute at the Oregon Health and Science University (OHSU), the vaccine proved successful in about fifty percent of the subjects tested and could lead to a human vaccine preventing the onset of HIV/AIDS and even cure patients currently on anti-retroviral drugs."
Hell yeah!
Most of these potential vaccines turn out to be unworkable - but try long enough and hard enough, eventually scientists will hit upon a really good one.
Which is why they spent over $500 million in 2011 just on HIV vaccine clinical trials? Sorry, your argument doesn't really hold water, and anyway the company that *does* come up with the vaccine will make a killing.
Help I am stuck in a signature factory!
Not just make a killing, but will put all the other companies out of business as their treatments become worthless.
Which is why they spent over $500 million in 2011 just on HIV vaccine clinical trials? Sorry, your argument doesn't really hold water, and anyway the company that *does* come up with the vaccine will make a killing.
I agree, but you are arguing against a conspiracy theory, never works.
I hear about these HIV/AIDS cures every year but they always disappear.
Why is figure 12 in the supplements, it seems to be the most important part (it compares cd4+ T-cell levels)? It is not even mentioned in the main text. Isn't reduction in the actual pathology the most important goal of a treatment?
I'm sure he'll just do something worse.
"Researchers working on a promising HIV vaccine just got hired by big pharma. The trials of this promising cure will go on under close scrutiny by their new man-in-charge".
This sounds really interesting...
It sounds like, instead of infecting the patient with a blunted virus that would eventually die away, they are permanently infecting the patient with a persistent virus that looks and acts like their target but causes no harm to keep up the immune response over the long haul. Sounds to me like a really interesting approach.
Maybe someone could enlighten me to the history of this approach in the treatment of other diseases, or is it novel?
Hmm, the humour and sarcasm seem to have been be lost on you.
Yes no real conspiracies here, although they don't help their case when they do get caught fabricating positive results to sell more drugs.
The real problem is that with vaccines being less profitable they have spent less than half a billion on vaccines but much more than that on drugs.
They don't conspire to suppress but they wont bother to put nearly as much effort in to the lower profit products.
This is why we wont get completely new antibiotics until the last moment and possibly too late for some, until you have a customer base why run the timer out on a new patient when you could just wait.
Vets all over the world rejoice! Your monkeys will be free of HIV anytime now!
Which is why they spent over $500 million in 2011 just on HIV vaccine clinical trials? Sorry, your argument doesn't really hold water, and anyway the company that *does* come up with the vaccine will make a killing.
that's for sure.
either by selling the vaccine, or by being bought by an HIV pharmaceutical company to be buried.
that's not a conspiracy theory. that's common practice everywhere else, so why wouldn't it be in pharma?
they just have to keep it quiet because of the moral outrage.
Nice tinfoil hat. When can I buy one?
Besides any vaccination campaign would take some years to ramp up and anti-retrovirals become less effective and ultimately go out of patent over time any way. So it's not like their business is going to go bust over night or wouldn't have drawn to a natural end anyway.
Monkeys? This could work for feline aids. Then I could vaccinate my cat! Then all the cat lovers on the internets could have aids free pussies!
I can't tell you how long I've wanted to have unprotected sex with monkeys. It doesn't feel the same when using a rubber.
There is an entire industry with an innate economic interest to obstruct, suppress and discredit any information about the eradication of diseases. The pharmaceutical industry makes over one trillion dollars from selling drugs for ongoing diseases. These drugs may relieve symptoms, but they do not cure. We have to realize that the mission of this industry is to make money from ongoing diseases. The cure or eradication of a disease leads to the collapse of a multi-billion dollar market of pharmaceuticals. We are bombarded with advertising campaigns by pharmaceutical companies wanting to make us believe that they are “Searching for Cures” “Striving for the Eradication of Diseases” or “Increasing Life Expectancy” and other false promises. With these deceptive statements, the pharmaceutical industry has for decades been able to disguise the true nature of its business – maximum profit from ongoing diseases. In other words, a cure for HIV will never see the light of day as it would undermine the profits made from selling life-long drugs to patients and would pretty much destroy the pharmaceutical industry. This would only benefit one company who would make massive profits and would refuse to share the cure with other companies and organisations.
That's just to show the public that they are "researching" for it, but in the end, if they can't sell this thing for more than a lifetime of the current product, won't happen.
You don't buy tinfoil hats. The ones you buy are all compromised. Learn how to build a tinfoil hat yourself.
Only if they price it so that everyone who needs it can afford it. Obviously that won't happen, they will want to maximize profit in rich countries instead of practically giving it away in Africa, so all those poor people will still need the other cheaper treatments.
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You can join the Tinfoil Hat Society.
You don't! You have to make it yourself, otherwise it could be made to allow the establishment to read your thoughts just when you thought you were safe!
That's odd. I've managed to avoid AIDs by using a rubber, not having unprotected gay sex (well, no gay sex in my case, but whatever) and not doing intravenous drugs.
There are provisions in international law that state that poor countries can ignore patents on life-saving drugs if the patent-holder prices them prohibitively expensively. In practice, this means that drug companies price the products by region, trying to replicate the US model of "rich people can afford it, poor people can go and die in a corner."
the company that *does* come up with the vaccine will make a killing.
Wouldn't that mean the vaccine doesn't work?
Pharma companies make boatloads of money selling lifelong drugs to HIV sufferers. The last thing they want is a cure that'd kill the cash cow.
OTOH, have you any idea what would happen to the share price of the first company to produce a cure for AIDS? Any individuals in a position to suppress it would also likely stand to profit from a bonanza share options windfall. And suppressing it without shareholder approval would be potentially criminal, and definitely actionable in the civil courts.
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I always liked this line of tinfoil hat craziness. It reminds me of the people who say "there will never be a cure for cancer" except when you point out that there are indeed various clinical trials up now, and in some case experimental deployment of various cancer drugs now. My grandmother who has stage 4 lung cancer received a non-radiation treatment as part of her treatment plan, it reduced the size of the tumors by 50%. Sadly it didn't reduce it enough that they could successfully operate and remove said cancer, or even remove the lung itself.
Or people who complain that there won't be a cure for diabetes, except where you can point out things like...islet implants(aka a artificial pancreas). Where the failure rate over time is in the 20-30% range after 15 years. My sister got that, as part of the clinical trials here in Canada. Sadly she was in the very small subset(~10%) where it fails within 3 years.
Om, nomnomnom...
It boils down to "Dead people don't make you money."
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
Several companies are starting their phase 3 trials about now. I've invested in one of them. If they are successfull I'll retire, but I mostly invested just to make sure someone is working on it.
It takes time to move from "killing viruses in a jar" to actually making something that removes the viruses from people without killing them at the same time.
That was rejected http://now.msn.com/hiv-vaccine-trial-subjects-experience-no-adverse-effects from submissions...
* Interesting reading, & I, for one, hope they wipe this SOB out - it has royally messed up folks lives in many ways for decades now.
APK
P.S.=> Don't understand HOW or WHY it was rejected, but "that's slashdot" for you - Still, the folks in question here aren't the ONLY ONES ontop of a fix for this killer it seems... apk
Given that HIV/AIDS has made the population growth rates in certain places explode, and that these places have very young populations, would a definitive cure for HIV/AIDS set off a massive population timebomb? Has any thought been given to the consequences of very suddenly removing a big source of mortality?
Usually they practice price discrimination, which any Econ 101 student can demonstrate as a way to price that maximizes your profits. A single, fixed price only benefits the wealthy.
W..w..W - Willy Waterloo washes Warren Wiggins who is washing Waldo Woo.
The patents on those will expire in a few years, allowing their competitors to start producing them at rock bottom prices. They'll lose the market anyway. Their solution is to invent it's replacement (the cure) and then exploit their monopoly on that for 10-20 years. So they Do have an incentive to find the cure.
...and your kidney analogy is flawed because the hardware (artificial kidneys dialysis etc) costs much more and can't drop in price in the same way as a pill can that's as cheap/easy to manufacture as aspirin.
This is because there is no such thing as conspiracies.
And no such thing as collusion, cartels, corruption etc. either. It's all in his head. Why does he hate pharma so much? They're only doing their level best to make people healthy and happy and provide sunshine and ponies for all.
Sounds like someone is off his meds
Yeah, like that's gonna work. Patents you have to keep secret are worthless, because as soon as someone else develops it (and your patent could strike), you'd have to go public with it anyway.
Tech burying only works exactly if you can go public with it but can claim that not releasing it is in some way good for the consumers.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Nice try, shill. That's the new tactic, trying to sound like you're helping while undermining the system and paving the way for THEM. We all know already that you made sure that all the tinfoil we could buy on the open market has been tampered with to make it useless for building hats.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Actually, a number of big pharma companies do give away (or sell at cost) to poor regions like sub-Saharan Africa the same medications they charge an arm and a leg for in the richer parts of the world. Where the process breaks down is when a disease disproportionally affects a poor region (like malaria) such that there is not a fiscally sound business model for pursuing the high risk/benefit research involved with drug development.
As an aside, I think that one of the most commendable fields of the Gates Foundation is their promotion of research for malaria (see the TED talk where Gates releases a jar of mosquitoes into the audience).
As someone who actually worked on (albeit briefly) an HIV vaccine candidate, I'd like to comment that there have been a number of successful anti-SIV vaccines already, each of which have gone on to miserable -- and expensive -- failures when the underlying technology was applied to an HIV vaccine. And for those candidates that actually made it to human trials before failure, each attempt had a human cost as well (conspiracy theorists, go fuck yourselves).
That being said, the approach used is rather clever, if someone risky. The technique used is what is known as a "Heterologous Antigen" delivery, but in this case it has been combined with a persistent agent that establishes a life-long infection. The vector used was Rhesus Cytomegalovirus, which has a analogous human virus known as Human Cytomegalovirus, aka Herpesvirus-5.
CMV is a very common infection (in some countries 90+%, although somewhat lower in the United States). It's generally considered harmless to healthy individuals, and most pick it up during childhood, where it is commonly passed around in daycare centers and such. Initial symptoms are usually mild and non-specific (although in some individuals it can produce Mono-like symptoms), and typically afterwards the viral infection is well-controlled with no further signs of infection. Unlike some more famous members of the Herpesvirus family, it does not produce any sores or vesicles or such.
However, on occasion it can be dangerous, as one of the infectious agents that can sometimes result in TORCH syndrome effects (like the infamous "Blueberry Muffin Baby") when primary infections (first encounter with the infectious agent for an individual) occurs in a pregnant women. It can also be dangerous in immunosuppressed individuals, such as organ transplant recipients and advanced AIDS patients.
In spite of the population explosion in Africa, since the 1960s, charities still guilt people in wealthy, industrialized nations into giving lots of money. They've been guilting people since the 1970s. China was also poor in the 1970s...
The general public doesn't know. The politicians, and the charities will continue guilting people. They don't care.
$500m of whom's money? I know there are lots of grants out there. I remember my ISP saying similar things. "We spent over $1bil upgrading our state-of-the-art fiber network in your state." But they don't tell you about most of the money coming from the Government.
They can vaccinate you with some poorly tested crap as well, then cash-in on the medication needed to cure the "side effects". Alzheimer's, cancers ... and restless leg syndrome.
It is a win-win situation for the pharma-industrial-complex. Also even if you don't FSCK around like rabbits, you will be either required or scared into thinking that you need the vaccination. Maybe some "accidental" blood contaminations breaking news will do that for you...
Unless you're an undertaker.
I want a list of atrocities done in your name - Recoil
Poor people gonna poor.
Meanwhile, the rest of us will continue to be grossly overweight and use water like it falls from the sky.
Sorry kids, Earth isn't full. It's just filled with idiots.
"simian immunodeficiency virus (SIV), a very aggressive form of HIV"
Those are two different viruses, one is not a different form of another. Yes they are from the same family but they infect different hosts and are targeted (affected) by different host defenses....
Nice tinfoil hat. When can I buy one?
The NSA has already read your post and will be mailing you one later today.
The cow says "Moo." The dog says "Woof." The Timothy says "Thanks, valued customer. We appreciate your input."
Note: This is not an attack aimed at you. I'm just using part of your otherwise good post as an example.
Namely, seeing things like
a fiscally sound business model for pursuing the high risk/benefit research
in conjunction with saving the lives of people and realizing that that kind of reasoning decides who gets to live and who gets to die, is ... sickening.
The human race has a long way to go. Hopefully we'll not kill ourselves off before getting there.
How can they be sure that these monkeys haven't been cured simply by practicing better hygiene?
Pffft! You buy tinfoil to build your hat? I make my own tinfoil with some hydrogen atoms.
Nah, then they will just pay someone to write a paper stating that HIV vaccine causes autism.
Not just make a killing, but will put all the other companies out of business as their treatments become worthless.
You think the drug companies that make HIV treatments will go out of business? You think all Bayer makes is HIV treatments? Losing one product doesn't make a company go bankrupt.
They use genetically modified CMV to keep the immune system alert and keep the sustained level of antibodies that kill SIV. CMV is otherwise harmless, but can not be cleared up completely and the body produces antibodies all the time. So, the immune system is fooled to produce antibodies that target SIV, trying to actually destroy CMV. Over time SIV gets wiped out even in viral reservoirs. After some months, the viral concentration is not even detectable anymore.
Why it works in 50% of monkeys is not yet understood. I guess in some of the monkeys, antibodies might not have properties that result with an attack on SIV (could be resolved by designing a better CMV hybrid), or the immune response wanes after some time. Maybe we humans will have more luck though - or maybe the teick doesn't work at all with out immune system.
Is it me or does this sound like it could quickly turn into some super virus gone wrong? "Sir our vaccine just bonded with the HIV T cells and has begun to rapidly spread throughout the infected hosts, SIR the hosts..they ar....they are eating the treatment staff!"
What cash cow? There is a lot of competition from India and elsewhere and in fact the profit from HIV drugs has become very low now. It used to cost $1000 a day to treat HIV .. now it's about $10 and there are many different companies making the drugs. How did the cost drop? Why didn't they keep the cost at $1000 a day so they can make more money?
If it's such a profitable business to make HIV drugs why don't you make them? You can make them in India or South Africa where patents on medicines are not recognized. Also you can slightly modify the drug's molecular structure (without affecting its effectiveness much) and not have to worry about the patent.
Yes, those children who catch it from their mothers really ought to know better.
http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/pregnantwomen/index.html
So are you saying you don't understand that drugs cost huge amounts of money to research, develop, test, and approve? Or is it that you don't understand that no business concern can operate at a loss indefinitely?
It may SUCK that we have to make these decisions, but unless you have a way of funding drug research that doesn't involve the companies doing the research losing money year after year, then this is the reality we live in.
Education would make those poor people's lives better. Better food. Better medicine. Better housing. Better water treatment. Is it "sickening" that I didn't buy a house for a poor family in Africa, yet bought a house for myself and my family? Is the contractor who built my house morally reprehensible for working for me, instead of losing his life's savings building houses that people can't afford in Africa?
Please learn to divorce the touchy-feely "every human is special and deserves to live like Warren Buffett" from the practical reality that there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Even if that were true, if a competitor could kill that business and make only a few million in the process, that's still profit for them instead of the competitor.
An increase in supply now only decreases the pool for later profits. You want them to live long enough to:
A) Have children
B) Bug their children to give them grandchildren.
You should go to Wiki and look up the Fallacy of Sunk Costs.
Patents you have to keep secret are worthless
Yeah, things that don't exist often are.
Ezekiel 23:20
Wrong - you're just so wrong. Look at the top causes of death worldwide - HIV/AIDS is SIXTH, more people die of diarrhea than of HIV, and diarrhea is very preventable. More than FOUR times the number die of heart disease, which is also largely preventable.
And that's just worldwide. As an exercise to improve your awareness of the facts, go look up the causes of death in the U.S. and report back to us. Don't forget to mention motor vehicle accidents (4 times the deaths caused by HIV), and FREAKING DIABETES (8 times the deaths caused by HIV).
People needlessly die from HIV/AIDS, but it's not even close to the "biggest Darwin award disease ever". Maybe you have some personal bias that makes you think that.
That's not the fallacy. The fallacy would be "We've already spent 500 million on research and development for this drug, but shit, only the incredibly impoverished really need it so we must charge them an arm and a leg, even if that means no one can buy it". It is not "There is no viable market for this drug, therefore we should not spend any money on R&D for it, because it could bankrupt us". That's just a rational economic decision.
You think all Bayer makes is HIV treatments? Losing one product doesn't make a company go bankrupt.
True, when Bayer's heroin sales became unpopular, and then it lost it's Zyklon-B product line, they still had aspirin to fall back on.
And the rape victims. Especially the 9-year-old girls who are raped because it's believed sex with a virgin will cure you of the disease. Yeah, everyone with HIV totally deserves it.
Additionally, there is more profit with older deaths due to add on services. Old and violent deaths in open casket funerals lets you make awesome additional charges on making the body presentable.
"Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
The day they come out with a guaranteed one-shot cure for AIDS, there will be f***ing in the streets.
"IT'S OVEEEEERRRRR!"
"WHOOOOOHOOOO!"
"Who are you? C'mere!"
"No, it's over! YEAH!"
And if you can't get laid that day, just cut it off!
The way to make money is to offer:
1. A vaccine.
2. A cure.
3. Long-term treatment.
parent up please
I have patents on that business model, asshole.
You will be hearing from my attorney!
Mod me down, my New Earth Global Warmingist friends!
Just as there's mass hysteria and a lot of unfounded accusations around the rubella and other vaccinations, there will be with the HIV vaccine as well. Ignorant parents will insist it made their kid autistic or ADHD or a gangbanger or whatever.
You should go to the Wiki and look up "Why the fuck would they bother investing money in all that to begin with if they plan to exsanguinate themselves by operating at a loss from the start". The sunk cost fallacy means "Don't throw good money after bad", not "Throw your money in the garbage plan because you'll never make anything out of it anyway".
Somewhat misleading - I listened to this topic on NPR for the past week (first heard about it Monday - yay /.!). 50% of test cases were successful, so while the vaccine is a good thing to continue to investigate, "very promising" is a bit off as it needs more work. Although, it should also be noted that SIV is a much much more deadly disease than HIV/AIDS.
Re: Gates Foundation and malaria.
Also worthy of note is the GO Fight Against Malaria Project at World Community Grid and the research done at Scripps in La Jolla. From the Wikipedia article,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Community_Grid#GO_Fight_Against_Malaria_Project
a relevant portion
"In the latest status report, published on November 2012 and available here, the scientists reported that several compounds had been found to inhibit the virus activity. 20 compounds were ordered, 19 actually arrived, of which 3 were not soluble. From the remaining 16, 7 inhibited Mtb InhA(Mycobacterium tuberculosis). The best hit displayed an IC50 value of approximately 40 micro-Molar. The discovery of this compound is important because of the drug resistant superbugs of Mycobacterium tuberculosis."
The "here" link is
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,34265_offset,0#401213
and current status as of 10 July 2013 at
http://gofightagainstmalaria.scripps.edu/index.php/how-we-will-discover-potential-malaria-drugs
Their data is open and available.
They can vaccinate you with some poorly tested crap as well, then cash-in on the medication needed to cure the "side effects". Alzheimer's, cancers ... and restless leg syndrome.
I'm sorry, I must be behind on the medical literature. What vaccines have been proven to cause Alzheimer's or cancer?
Enjoy your rampant unfounded paranoia. Don't worry, there will be plenty of pundit talking points for you to mindlessly parrot in 2014, too.
You should do your own homework too. That is nothing like the fallacy of sunken costs. The fallacy refers to when somebody invests in a course of action, and sticks to it when it is clear that the investment won't pay off. Citation: http://www.skepdic.com/sunkcost.html
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Nah, those kinds of folks are still stuck on the whole "HIV doesn't cause AIDS" bs. :P
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GP was wrong, but the game theory concept still holds. Sure, it is financially beneficial for the supplier to develop long term treatments, but the consequences of a competitor sweeping the market out from underneath them with a cure (or something close to it) is very great. And vice verse, if they are the ones to develop it.
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To help the uninitiated I posted this in a thread devoted to dealing with the dangers of HAARP. I repost in the fervent hope it may be of use to enhancing the safety and sagacity of those who might otherwise be afflicted.
"There is a bit more to it. First, about the "tin-foil" - it's obvious to most, of course, that we're really speaking of aluminium foil (how that got originally termed 'tin-foil' is curious). Standard weight is OK for most.
"Here's the trick. It really requires a sandwich or layered approach. Wear any kind of soft cloth head cover - handkerchief, skullcap, welder's cap. The hat itself starts with the foil. Then a layer of waxed paper. Then, and this is very important, a layer of Mylar (or other brand of aluminized plastic film). Over that, as the top and final layer, newsprint. The colored comics section is alright, but avoid the glossy photographs from the magazine section.
"One last thing. If you live very near a principal Ley line, you are advised to add an additional layer each of waxed-paper and Mylar."
Actually all 3 have various benefits:
Vaccine: It's great! You get to sell it to people who aren't even sick yet!
Cure: You beat everybody else who only have treatments for selling it. Gotta love competitive advantage. Generally speaking the person will survive longer and buy other stuff in your line of products.
Long-term treatment: They keep coming back, yes, but you can have problems keeping it affordable.
I don't read AC A human right
My child is deathly ill. If, however, you give me all your savings, his life can be saved.
Would you?
When I first read about that, I thought it was a troll joke. People actually think advanced infections of HIV aren't causing AIDS? So what the fuck is? HIV kills immune cells, thus leading to a weakened immune state, or AIDS..........What the hell else would be causing it? Is it Jesus' tears? God I can't believe I share a species with some of these fucking people.
Sadly, it's a real thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_denialism
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Useless without a ground wire 10 gauge or bigger.
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Ok, that was very badly worded, of course "secret patents" are an oxymoron. What I meant is that it's possible to abuse the patent system in such a way that you don't disclose the critical parts of your invention. You simply do not patent them, knowing that your product is guarded by patents on one side and by trade secrets on the other side, ensuring that you neither have to produce it yourself if you don't want to, not allowing anyone else to do so.
There is actually even the tactic that you avoid patenting something that would be identified easily as something everyone wants (and you do NOT want to make because it would kill your market for something else), but instead patent a step in its production that cannot be sidestepped or replaced. This is actually pretty common with pharma corporations where, for very obvious reasons, people would go crazy if they learned that you have the cure for X and don't want to produce it.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
US Research lead to Patents!
If you can posit a mechanism where a vaccine against a virus might restore your tcell count but leave the virus untouched, you might have a point, but there is no such mechanism.
Vaccine, no. But some other techniques might result in such a situation; gene-therapy to produce a functional CCR5-delta32-like state of resistance might do it, if the result was a mixed population of both altered and unaltered T-cells.
While no succesful implementation of a therapy currently exists, the strategy is thought to be sound, given the success of the Berlin Patient example, which used a transplant of naturally occurring CCR5-delta32 bone-marrow. Unlike the Berlin Patient however (who was a leukemia patient to begin with), complete eradication of original host immune system before therapy is likely too risky for general use, which is why I think a mixed susceptible/resistant system afterwards is a more likely outcome.
Of course, this assumes that having a population of some (instead of all) HIV-resistant T-cells is sufficient to protect against the more serious consequences of AIDS. It may not be a true assumption, given that we now know HIV has cytopathological effects beyond that of killing CD4 cells.
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close to the metal as possible
It matters which metal though. In this inflationary post-1933 hellscape that we all live in you really can't trust the traditional coinage metals. This is why all my hats are lined with rhodium foil.
You can't spell "oneiromancy" without "roman".
Yeah, you're right; I was saving that for the kits I was gonna sell.
Flu, MRM, probably others too. Mercury and typhoid monkey kidneys they use for the cultures are a bit of a turn-off. The lack of testing is an added plus. While MRM vaccines were tested separately, there was never a clinical trial of the mixture. And they give that to 3 year old kids in most everywhere. Some of these kids suffer serious damage to their digestive tract. Not proven but suggested by many, that this damage can be linked to the sudden onset of autism. One that in many cases can be fully or partially cured by a special diet (mostly plant based, free of chemicals).
If it is not too "tin-foil-hat" an interesting watch on the subject is "Are Vaccines safe"..
That's why I said to offer them.
I feel like there is already a cure for hiv/aids and other things but the world we live in is so evil and people don't want there money to stop rolling in refuse to release such a cure do you know how much the pharmaceuticals make off selling there drugs that just suppress the sickness and we stay sick and live a little longer mhm it's just said that's exactly why I do not leave my trust in man but in God with God anything can be cured forget man besides hiv. Is killing people off cause they already said we over populated and the government does a lot to keep the POP down I'm just saying....!!! And it's sad lol one more thing the world is not over populated did y'all know everybody on the planet can all live and fit comfortably on the continent of Australia and still have the other 6 continents vacant think about that so much bullshit so just live life to the fullest and be right with God and live freely and peacefully for eternity with God when your earthly visit is over...!!!
No, just no. There is no evidence for vaccines causing autism and there never was. http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2013/07/130716-autism-vaccines-mccarthy-view-medicine-science/ The new McCarthyism is as bad as the old.
Not comfortable. Can Gates just go back to fricasseeing baby penguins, so we can get on with a thorough-going hate-night?
Birds are not dinosaur descendants;birds are dinosaurs, for all useful meanings of "birds", "are" and "dinosaurs"