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How Amateurs Destroyed the Professional Music Business

David Gerard writes "Here in the future, musicians and record companies complain they can't make a living any more. The problem isn't piracy — it's competition. There is too much music and too many musicians, and the amateurs are often good enough for the public. This is healthy for culture, not so much for aesthetics, and terrible for musicians. There are bands who would have trouble playing a police siren in tune, who download a cracked copy of Cubase — you know how much musicians pirate their software, VSTs and sample packs, right? — and tap in every note. There are people like me who do this. A two-hundred-quid laptop with LMMS and I suddenly have better studio equipment than I could have hired for $100/hour thirty years ago. You can do better with a proper engineer in a proper studio, but you don’t have to. And whenever quality competes with convenience, convenience wins every time. You can protest that your music is a finely-prepared steak cooked by sheer genius, and be quite correct in this, and you have trouble paying for your kitchen, your restaurant, your cow."

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  1. How is this news? by TheRealMindChild · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People prefer a $1 McDouble over a $15 premium burger. The public chose VHS over Betamax. "Good enough" is good enough.

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    1. Re:How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Beta took two tapes to hold a movie, while VHS took one, this was significant. The quality difference when hooked up to old TV sets via RF was negligible. If I recall, Beta machines were more expensive as well. At the time, VHS was a better choice for most people.

    2. Re:How is this news? by David+Gerard · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Professional recording artists sell fuck-all these days. In the UK: in 1983, Red Guitars got to #8 in the indie charts with 60,000 sales of "Good Technology". In 2013, Rihanna has a mainstream number one album with under 10,000 sales.

      The important thing to remember is that "pop music" is not actually all that popular. It's mostly a way to get publicity for your live shows and yourself as a celebrity - buy yourself onto the iTunes top 40. You've never heard of half these people because they are not actually popular.

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    3. Re:How is this news? by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I ate at one once and it was tastless cardboard so I vowed never to set foot in one again."

      Shit. What the hell is happening to people these days? Does McDonalds really need to sell their burgers with instructions? You are supposed to open the friggin box, remove the contents, and just eat the contents for christ sake!

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    4. Re:How is this news? by SerpentMage · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, sorry I don't think it is about quality.

      Let me illustrate. So I have a burger, and I serve it to people. One costs 1 dollar and another costs 10 dollars. Does the 10 dollar burger have better quality?

      It reminds me of the movie "The Devil Wears Prada". Remember the scene with the "blue" belt? What people are doing is splitting hairs. Google essentially killed my profession (being quite serious here), but I am not complaining because I use Google as well. What the Internet has done is forced musicians to say, "oh wait I am not worth 10 gazillion dollars?"

      This is what the Internet is doing namely reassessing what you are actually worth. I don't think this is bad because this is what happens all the time. It is called free market economics, capitalism, the invisible hand, what have you. So if somebody complains I say, "suck it up daisy!" Move on and figure it out. Ask yourself the following. When cars began to overtake horses do you want to be a buggy whip manufacturer or car mechanic?

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    5. Re:How is this news? by Lloyd_Bryant · · Score: 5, Funny

      You are supposed to open the friggin box, remove the contents, and just eat the contents for christ sake!

      But then you lose half the nutritional value!

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    6. Re:How is this news? by blackm0k · · Score: 5, Informative

      The parent to your comment was talking about album sales, whereas you're talking about single sales. That album sales are down and single track sales are up has been known for a while now, and all it really indicatesis that people are consuming music differently now: in single track chunks.

    7. Re:How is this news? by chipschap · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a former owner of a small studio back in the 90s I regret the loss of quality as reflected in poor playback conditions (ear buds, bad headphones etc.) and the ubiquity of MP3s (no they do not sound the same, and it's the difference between pretty good and superb). I recorded to 16 channels of analog tape with Dolby S, and it was fantastic quality sound.

      The other side of this, though, is the easy availability of very good digital processing equipment. Now that the standard is 24 bit, there are no longer headroom problems and the noise floors are low. A studio like the one I had would be today largely superfluous, or at the least not very busy. (Good mics still cost, and, leaving aside possible questions of technique, that's where many home recordists seem to fall back in quality.) Music is easy to distribute.

      So it's hardly all a black picture. The marketplace delivers what the market demands. Live with it.

    8. Re:How is this news? by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Audio technician here.

      A well-tuned sound system adds a lot to a party environment. No, it's not going to be cranked up to full volume, nor playing death metal, but it will be on and loud enough to understand. The room should be fairly well-padded, so the music is heard but doesn't produce echoes. With such a setup, the music is a diversion, filling the empty space that otherwise is an "awkward silence". If and only if there's a gap in the conversation or someone wants to hear it, the music comes through.

      Not all music must be loud, and not all parties must be quiet.

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    9. Re: How is this news? by PRMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In the 80s Christian Rock was born. It may not have always had the highest quality, but some bands were good and there were lots of options. In the 90s, all the small CCM labels got bought by the majors and soon there were about 6-7 bands pushed, all mediocre. With the rise of the internet, the labels couldn't control things anymore. In the 2000s, cool innnative bands thrived. And they seem to be making a living at it still. I'll take that any day over the alternative.

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    10. Re: How is this news? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      He was a "genius" in an Apple Store.

    11. Re:How is this news? by smittyoneeach · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Quality be damned hard to sell to a market that's been dumbed down from Mozart to Miley.
      FTFY

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    12. Re:How is this news? by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Most working musicians make their money playing gigs and selling merchandise. Only the lucky get big money recording deals. And even the ones who get the recording contracts will usually get less than ten cents from every dollar sold. Record companies usually just take 50% or more off the top. Just because. Then they start taking their other cuts from their (profit, recording fees, marketing fees, etc etc etc. and a few pennies for the band.... now go promote it). Regular bands and musicians take their gigs as they can get them and some good enough or lucky enough get regular work. And even then the better ones count on the occasional private gig that they can charge or get paid a bit or more better than club pay.

      So the whole gazillion dollar thing... I call bullshit. What kills a lot of musicians is new shite bands who charge way less than they should because they live at home or have a day job, and think just getting in will let them live as a musician. It is like the whole living wage debate, there needs to be a minimum fee. And bar owners who are trying to make a go of it themselves who are then lead to believe that they are paying fair rates because some bands take it.

      Most people think a musician is working when they are on stage so wow the band gets paid a grand (thousand bucks) for four hours work (and now-a-days many bars don't like paying half that). Meanwhile they neglect to notice that pay has to be split four or five ways to the band members. And that also has to cover daily practice (yes that is work, it is their job), rental of practice space (because who can afford a house with a garage to practice in on those wages?), and pay for gas, never mind the car to get to and from the gig. That 200 to 250 dollars starts getting spread pretty thinly. Hopefully you can get two or three gigs this week...

      So this whole thing about musicians getting their money from recordings is for the lucky few. At best it is the demo home recording (or studio if you have the dough) self produced CD sold at regular gigs while you do road circuits across the country or state or province or city, if you live in a city that supports live bands.

      The whole gazillion dollar recording artist is what we see on TV or hear on radio. But they are the lucky few. There are a lot of really talented people out there who are in the trenches, playing from club to club.

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    13. Re:How is this news? by philip.paradis · · Score: 5, Funny

      He's not supposed to have sex with his mother.

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  2. Music Industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They have given us terrible artists for years, maybe they will finally go away...

  3. Also... by joocemann · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... one might note that the mainstream industry has very little appeal to people that are intellectual or at least deeply interested in the actual content of their music.

    The mainstream studios that are cracking out 'hit' after 'hit' (aka: highly advertised until people like it) are producing basic melodies in C Major with 'artists' that cannot honestly perform well on stage and likely can't do their music well in a true LIVE setting.

    The mainstream studios are facing REAL ARTISTS and losing. What should they expect? They think they can churn out half-assed simpleton music and not be out-competed by bedroom producers with less than 5 years experience? Please... Mainstream music is awfully easy to make. 2 or 3 basic chords. Very little elaboration or demonstration of musical mastery. Major key. Generalized/Simplified/Non-confrontational/obvious/regurgitated lyrics. Chorus-Verse-Chorus-Verse-Chorus. Except you call the 'chorus' a "HOOK" now because it's usually very simple and has a catchy jingle.

    Yeah. Lame.

    Full disclosure: I've been a bedroom producer for 18 years now. I have a successful conscious hip hop crew and produce more complex and better music than most mainstream labels - check my sig. My emcees are more skilled than most of the latest studio-emcess, and they have great stage presence, and we have actual artistic/intelligent lyrics that have value beyond simple entertainment. I've been making music since before it was easy. MS-DOS was the OS when I started.

  4. Old Codger Reveals All by Yergle143 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You reap what you sow...and what the record companies sowed were generations of unsophisticated listeners that don't know the difference between the popular artists and their next door neighbor and his robot. Musicianship, composition, pshaw. Drum machines and stored samples.
    I don't care at all, there's plenty of vibrant and new alternative music -- that being jazz and classical and what's out in the World. Just look.

  5. Re:Good line by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Shouldn't a quote at least be true to be good? Instances abound where people choose quality over convenience. If they didn't then there would be no option to by a quality burger. It would be "eat McDoubles or starve". Furthermore, the "professional" music business is full of incompetent hacks (as well as truly great musicians) and that is also true in the domain that he describes and implies is of lower quality. By his own admission you can get better quality of sound now with very inexpensive tools than you could get paying $1000.00 per hour in the 1970s. Yet, they made awesome music in the 70s. The difference is that in 1970 you only heard the music of a few, whereas now both high quality and lower quality music can proliferate with relative abandon. All you have to do is watch American Idiot to see that you can take a hack and add all the promotion and expensive tools in the world, and they are still a hack. Likewise, Stevie Ray Vaughn would blow your mind with a practice amp.

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  6. Good riddance to the pros by John3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Professional musicians with record contracts use auto-tune tools all the time, so why can't amateur musicians have access to the same tools? I have no sympathy for the recorded music industry, they have been crooked since day one and reaped plenty of profits off the hard work of underpaid performers and songwriters. Live performance is even changing as performers can have their vocals corrected "on the fly" instead of trying to lip sync as marginally talented musicians did in the past. So the recorded music industry will go the way of the travel agency, which is just economic reality. The record industry was created to get music recorded and out to the people, and they are no longer needed. People will still find music they like, and performers will find ways to make money in local clubs until they build up a larger audience. Quality of the musical performance is not a requirement...look at The Sex Pistols or The Ramones. Interesting that as some industries (retail, banking) become more and more concentrated in the hands of fewer companies (Walmart, JP Morgan Chase) the music business is becoming more eclectic and wide open. Sure, the media companies have consolidated, but any kid with a PC and an internet connection can get his/her music to the world. Seems like progress to me.

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  7. Re:Deja Moo by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Sacred cows make the best hamburgers."

    That's a ridiculous statement. The ones I've seen can't even hold a spatula.

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    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  8. The Beauty of the Original Idea by MarkvW · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A beautiful and raw original idea kicks the ass of a flawlessly executed banality.

    Who cares if the music industry deflates? The "Rock Stars" are a study in decadence and greed and the "Music Industry" is a study in ruthlessness and greed.

    Cubase, ProTools, Ableton . . .. The kids of today are going to lead us away from "computer music" into very new territory. Just imagine what Mozart could create if he had a decent music workstation!

    The music industry (as it has been) would have us listening to stuff that was fresh forty years ago.

    Sooner or later the kids are going to learn how to market themselves, just like they're mastering the new music creation tools.

    I'll give up production values for originality any day.

  9. Re:This is the story for all kinds of art by MrBigInThePants · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Totally agree.

    And add to that a previous article by a professional producer talking about how new bands get financially screwed by the industry and routinely make less than at a 711 on their first few tours...

    What exactly are we supposed to be protecting here??

    Exploitation? Slavery? Cult of personality? The needs of the few super stars to be filthy rich at the expense of the rest?

    Please...

    This is AWESOME and I have personally been wishing for it to happen for over a decade now.

    Let the revolution begin. Only good will come of this.

    Next step: KILL ITUNES!!

  10. Re:Also...deflationary internet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well, in the early days, my band paid off two home mortgages by giving away terrible quality mp3's and asking for 10 bucks for a high quality CD - and we got lots of sales. Yes, we were good live and in our (homebuilt) analog, then digital studio. We had a decent following, and got an offer from Warners. Being engineers, a couple of us read the contract - no frigging way we'd sign that stupid thing. We had product *already* but they wanted to "front" us millions to remake it in their overpriced studios, cut a deal where we got a tiny fraction of any profit after all costs (mostly imaginary) by them were paid and so forth. While she's otherwise "out there" Courtney Love's rant on this is dead on - hollywood accounting isn't worth being on the wrong side of. My own book sold over 50k copies and they haven't paid me a dime yet - I know because it came with code, and my email was in the code. The book co claimed I sold negative numbers some months!

    The internet is the most deflationary creation of all time. Back in the day, if you wanted music, you made your own, or watched one of the rare "artistes" touring your little settler town. Or you lived in one of the bigger cities in a pile of manure on the streets.

    The record company model only lasted as long as artificial scarcity could be created. With the fact that it's now easier to be good at music (better gear, some stuff helps you "cheat"), and that now there's little if any scarcity - they lose, just like buggy whip/carriage makers. Good riddance, they were cheating all the actual workers all along, as Frank Zappa correctly stated.

    Go see your local bands, and buy their CD's out of the back of the car if you like them. Better model, we'll get better music as a result anyway.

    Did you know that if I want to hear say, the Berlin Philharmonic play say from 1950 or so - it's illegal? Not in print - but still in copyright. Making a copy, if I find one, is against the law, but I can't find anyone to pay to make it legal either. So those assholes have stolen our musical heritage for all time. Don't support them.

  11. Re:Good line by donstenk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    On top of that, the music of the 70's has been filtered through 40 years and many songs were thankfully lost along the way. In forty years we'll know for sure what was notable today - right now i may have missed it in a cacophony of many sounds that do not interest me.

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  12. technology vs. quality by noh8rz10 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    this summary and the whole thread make absolutely no sense to me.

    Definitely true that the technological hurdles for recording music have been coming down. For $100, I can buy a high-quality interface for plugging my guitar into my ipad. For $200, a condensed microphone. And garageband costs $15, and it's free on new phones and ipads. I can see how all of this really hurts the music industry, from the technical side - all the recording techs, fancy recording studios, especially those that catered to the mid-tier pay-for-it-yourself crowd. I'm sure they're getting pinched.

    Also, more competition broadens the market. There will be fewer multi-millionaire recording artists, but I bet the total amount spent on music (including live shows, etc) will only grow because the supply is growing. This trickles up to the record labels as well - sorry capital records!

    But he're is what I don't get - the idea that the quality of music will go down. You know, the amount of music that's really good. I think this can only go up! The music industry has always had this shadow of really talented people who didn't make the cut for the big boys. Now they all have a voice, and there will be many more diamonds that rise to the top.

    In short, the music recording industry may be taking a hit, but the music culture is going through a renaissance.