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Poor US Infrastructure Threatens the Cloud

snydeq writes "Thanks to state-sponsored cable/phone duopolies, U.S. broadband stays slow and expensive — and will probably impede cloud adoption, writes Andrew C. Oliver. 'As a patriotic American, I find the current political atmosphere where telecom lobbyists set the agenda to be a nightmare. All over the world, high-end fiber is being deployed while powerful monopolies in the United States work to prevent it from coming here,' Oliver writes. 'I expect that cloud adoption will closely match broadband speed, cost, and availability curves. Those companies living in countries where the broadband monopoly is protected will adopt the cloud at a slower rate than those with competitive markets and municipal fiber. There's a good chance U.S. firms will fall into that group.'"

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  1. NSA aint helping either by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Lets not forget about the people that wont use a US based cloud service because of the NSA snooping.

    1. Re:NSA aint helping either by MacDork · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Seconded. The NSA has ruined it for the US cloud companies. Permanently. Does Google, Facebook, and friends think that anyone will trust them again? They lied. They lied about lying. Then they lied about that. Now they're pushing to release FISC documents? As if that would somehow sprinkle magical dust on the problem and make it go away?

      There are no privacy protection laws limiting the types of data companies collect in the US. These companies collect data because it makes them lots of money. In the process, they are the facilitators for the NSA.

      Want to restore trust Google? Stop syncing WiFi passwords on android by default. Stop shipping a browser with Do Not Track defaulted to off. Stop collecting data you don't need or have any business collecting. Of course, that won't happen. That's why this crop of invasive companies have been dealt a deathblow by Snowden. I give them 15 years before they've been made irrelevant by newer peer to peer systems. Maybe less.

  2. Local government wants its cut by mc6809e · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Many municipalities have a franchise arrangement that gives the local cable company a monopoly so long as the cable company pays a franchise fee.

    Where I live, that fee is 5% of GROSS revenue -- quite a lot of money. Many businesses would be happy with profits that are 5% of the gross.

    Of course the cable company doesn't mind paying because they can inflate rates without worrying about competition. And the local government doesn't mind because higher rates mean more money for them!

    It's really a hidden tax on an artificially higher bill. And the fact that it's hidden means the typical voter doesn't know they might have the power to change it -- and that's precisely the goal.

  3. wow, mixed feelings by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slow broadband adoption? Baaaad
    Slow cloud adoption (ie, not putting all your data at the mercy of someone else)? Good.

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    "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  4. Re:What can the US do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Have to post this anon. I work for AT&T and we do optical to the node with existing copper. Unfortunately the existing copper from the node and then the copper wiring in homes throws a wrench in 75% of the time. Optical to the home then gigabit Ethernet would be a better solution. I am often asked why as an employee I use Cox cable. Because they give me superior bandwidth, and a more reliable product... and they come out on Sundays. US carriers are not into upgrading infrastructure but intent on monetizing everything they can. We charge the exact same thing for DSL we did in 1997.

  5. The US Way by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Wring every last cent out of the existing technology (i.e. copper wire), pay executives big bonuses and screw customers with rotten customer service. Small wonder we're becoming a backwater.

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    A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
  6. Re:Infrastructure pretty much requires the gov't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Very clever word usage.

    The private sector built the railroads,

    ...because of massive government incentives like land grants.

    funded bridges,

    ...so they could get their free land from the government that was worth more.

    worked with (oil, gas, iron, steel),

    Yes, that is what industry does. The government is not allowed to directly do such things.

    positioned pipelines,

    ...for their own profit and convenience. There was never a 'public good or need' for them.

    electrical grid, telephone...

    Again, with great government incentives in place like local monopolies, right of way, and special taxes to pay for it all.

    optical is on the way

    So are vacation homes on mars. Your words are meaningless.

    - just wait like other generations had to.

    Ahh, and now we get to the real problem. There is little incentive to improve. With most locales having monopolies or duopolies, there is no competition and thus no incentive to change until something breaks and really has to be replaced. Meanwhile other countries that care about infrastructure are funding it with public money, for public good, with public control. Our information tech dominance is slipping away while we wait for the invisible hand to stop touching itself.