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Research Finds Link Between Inflation and Laughter In Federal Reserve Meetings

schliz writes "A one percentage point increase in an inflation forecast brings about a 75% rise in laughter, according to an American University PhD student, who studied transcripts of the Federal Open Market Committee at the Federal Reserve. Laughter usually comes in response to witticisms during a meeting at the time of the inflation forecast, and has been shown to be a mechanism for coping with the stress of a perceived threat."

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  1. Alternate Title by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I propose an alternate title to this story:

    "An open invitation for cranky Slashdotters to complain about waste of taxpayer money -- despite it being non-governmental funded -- to study a topic I find ridiculous."

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    1. Re:Alternate Title by x2A · · Score: 2

      When inflation is above interest, or you store money in a way which doesn't get interest, then yes, it does act as a stimulus by allowing spending of money that is otherwise not being spent. Unfortunately, the main spending of the US federal government is on its war machine... so the problem is what is done with the debt+inflation tax, not the fact that it exists.

      You do also need income to at least rise at the rate of the inflation, and then it only hits money not being spent, but neoliberal policies are making that happen less and less, with the worst off seeing a decrease in real wages, a refusal to increase minimum wage being heavily responsible there.

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    2. Re:Alternate Title by tinkerton · · Score: 3, Interesting

      An open invitation to see causal relationships actually. This is /..
      "Laughter at Federal Reserve Meetings May Cause Inflation".

  2. Banks rushing... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Banks are now rushing to plant stand-up comics on the reserve board so they can game on metric they haven't been able to before.

    In other news, concept of "causation" completely lost on those making the most important decisions affecting the world economy.

  3. Fed laughter correlated to the housing bubble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    From 2012: http://multiplier-effect.org/?p=3362

  4. So I guess meetings now are real knee-slappers. by gestalt_n_pepper · · Score: 2

    Especially when discussing inflation 5 years out.

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  5. Re:Wish I could laugh by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Nobody else gets to vote themselves a raise, create their own health plan, retirement, etc.

    Um, that's pretty much how C-level executives work at large companies. They are nominally under the control of the board, who is nominally the elected representatives of the shareholders, but like with our elected political representatives, in practice they have quite a bit of unrestrained control over things like voting each other raises and approving golden-parachute contracts (formally on behalf of the shareholders who voted the board in, of course).

  6. Haha hahaha ha... by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Insightful

    hahahah ahaha haha hahahahaha hahahah ahahaha...

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  7. Re:So? by x2A · · Score: 2

    The powerful don't want to see inflation, it makes their money worth less.,

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  8. Re:So? by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The powerful don't want to see inflation, it makes their money worth less.,

    Inflation makes everybody's money worth less. I visited Brazil during hyperinflation. It wasn't just the "powerful" suffering.

    BTW, "the powerful" did fine in the US during the 1970s .../p?

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  10. Re:So? by locofungus · · Score: 4, Informative

    The powerful are fine with inflation. They hold a wide range of assets, some of which will be inflation proof.

    While their net wealth might go down in a time of high inflation, it will go down more slowly than the vast majority of people and the powerful's income is likely to be somewhat inflation proof allowing them to buy up yet more assets as people are forced to sell the few things they own that are inflation proof in order to raise funds for day to day living.

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  11. It saves time by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's pretty easy to laugh all the way to the bank when you're already there.

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  12. Re:So? by jellomizer · · Score: 2

    There is good inflation and bad inflation.
    Good inflation is when the cost of goods and services rise, to match in increase of income of the consumers.
    Bad inflation is when the cost of goods and services rise, at a faster rate then the increase of income of the customers.

    We are having low inflation now... However income has dropped, so it is still bad, and it is worse then when we have high inflation and a strong growth of income.

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  13. Re:So? by alexander_686 · · Score: 2

    On balance, inflation helps borrows and penalizes lenders.

    For the conspiracy minded the Fed is controlled by the banks. In theory they would love deflation – except for the economic recessions that tend to follow.

    For historical context read about the Cross of Gold speech – or read the Wizard of OZ: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_Gold_speech

  14. It hurts the powerful less than the weakest by MikeRT · · Score: 3, Informative

    The powerful can absorb the costs more. If you have $20m in cash and inflation reduces your currency's value by 50% that is a negligible loss for you in terms of being able to live comfortably. However, someone who had only $20k in cash savings has been effectively crippled because the loss to their savings has a much nearer term effect on their quality of life. That is to say, a millionaire can get by on inflated millions in savings and be fine until they die if they live a middle class life style, but a middle class person may have just much of their ability to survive unemployment wiped out or reduced from a year down to 3 or six months.

    1. Re:It hurts the powerful less than the weakest by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Your tax bracket is suddenly 30% instead of 20%... oh wait, what? People always forget this amazing benefit (for the government) of inflation.

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  15. Re:So? by Mike · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is good inflation and bad inflation. ...
    We are having low inflation now...

    Spoken like a true Keynesian.

  16. Sure, laugh while you can monkey boy by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

    As you quantitatively ease yourselves into our bungholes to the tune of 85 billion a month...

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  17. Re:So? by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Informative

    You realize it's a comment and not an argument at all, right?

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  18. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Except that cost of living has continued to increase, though you wouldn't know that looking at the official numbers because the government rules out everything that gets more expensive as "too volatile" to include in the index, so the government's official cost of living numbers excludes everything that gets more expensive.

  19. Re:So? by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Informative

    Rofl. Yeah, money in the bank. Julius Baer, Switzerland, in several european currencies. Tokyo, Japan, in several asian currencies. OK how about financial instruments. Short term bonds in dollars (US, Canadian, Australian, NZ), euros, pounds, reals, yen, rubles... Stocks, in several stock exchanges around the world, in diversified sectors. Gold, silver, platinum, copper, diamonds (and I ain't talking jewelry or certificates here). Now let's talk real estate....

    Seriously, you are full of shit. The rich don't give a damn about inflation in one country or the next. What they DO care about is how to profit from the situation. There's always profit, if you're big enough.

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  20. Re:So? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

    Or any other type of economics that acknowledges the basic reality of the way economies and peoples' lives interact. Behavioralism makes no denial of this premise either. If your economic system requires you to specifically ignore one way things can turn out to be valid, that isn't a testament to its quality.

  21. Re:So? by tmosley · · Score: 2

    Wrong. The powerful get to use the printed money first, stealing purchasing power from everyone else. This is one of the most fundamental arguments against fiat currency.

  22. Re:So? by tmosley · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Good inflation is when you print money and spend it first. Bad inflation is when other people print money and devalue the dollars in your pocket.

  23. Re:So? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

    Let's not forget super-leveraged investments that are so disconnected from the value of the currency they're priced in, that for simplicity's sake, banks often barter the interest rates of one security to another.

  24. Re:So? by tmosley · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That is incorrect. Inflation is great for those who get to print it. The Fed and thus the banks are the ones that get first access to that money, and get to charge interest on it, interest that can mathematically be paid from no source except default. Default destroys resources. This monetary system thus forces destruction of resources through malinvestment.

    Money is not wealth. Money is a CLAIM on wealth, which is composed of real things. Printing money does not create more wealth--it just dilutes it, and redistributes it to those who get first access to the printed money.

  25. Keynesian Cognitive Dissonance by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Keynesian School (along with some Monetarists), which controls The Fed, claims to not believe that printing money ("quantitative easing") can in, in fact, create price inflation (they contend it should get the economy roaring and the opposite should happen). Now Keynes himself didn't believe this, but his disciples think he was mistaken on that particular count.

    Meanwhile, the Austrian School economists contend that the money creation is itself the monetary inflation (by definition...) and that price inflation is just an inevitable consequence of monetary inflation (more dollars in the pool means each dollar has less value).

    The trouble is, the Austrians take that consequence to say that it means that ultimately the central banks are harmful to the economy, since they're constantly interfering in the transfer of information across the economy by interfering with pricing and interest signals. If you're a central banker, the idea that central bankers are harmful can't be true, so if anything happens that indicates the the Austrians might be right after all, it's going to be a a bit unsettling.

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    1. Re:Keynesian Cognitive Dissonance by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

      Okay. I'll bite. Where is the inflation?

      It's currently $84B per month, but if you look at the numbers Sen. Lahey's office uncovered, that pales in comparison to the $16T+ in new dollar creation that the Fed secretly engaged in.

      If you mean prices, you can look here for the pre-political CPI-U calculations (no basket substitutions, etc.) or you could look at any commodities index over the time period, or, heck, just go to the grocery store. If you buy food for a family, try pricing ground beef, peanut butter, or a sack of flour, both now and 5 years ago. They're up over 50%.

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  26. Re:So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Like how destructive to everyone the "deflation" of the cost of technology over the last 30 years has been?

    "Deflation" is a canard. It simply means that the actual value created by human innovation and efficiency increases, for a particular lucky domain, hasn't been siphoned off entirely by the financial system. The "goal" of 0% means nothing other than it's a number that the public has been hypnotized into thinking is optimal, for which the siphoners should be praised in acheiving. Quite the opposite. Human progress means the costs of goods and services -should- be going down, and the standard of living going up correspondingly. Those savings on particular goods in a massive scale translate into investment in more jobs and more prosperity, precisely as we have seen in the tech industry, despite having every imaginable impediment and rent-seeing drain placed on it.

    Respect history and the economic realities directly before your eyes before blindly repeating the mantra of theft that keeps the majority of the country making no net economic progress, year after year, decade after decade, generation after generation.

  27. Re:So? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 2

    If more people realized that "inflation" doesn't mean that a gallon of milk costs more, it means that you will see a nominal rise in your paycheck, it wouldn't be such a boogeyman.

    It means both. However, whether you're talking about inflation or deflation, the change in your paycheck always trails the effect on the price of consumer goods, so a gallon of milk still costs more relative to your current paycheck. Under deflation it's just the opposite: sure, your paycheck is decreasing, but your expenses are decreasing even faster.

    This is not to say that we'd be better off with forced deflation rather than inflation. As with any other commodity, the price of money is best left to the market rather than central planners. Natural deflation is a signal that there is a need for saving and investment, while inflation signals that it's time to spend. Forcing either results in a suboptimal allocation of resources.

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  28. inflation is good by Khashishi · · Score: 2

    Almost all outputs of human labor are perishable. Grain stored in a silo will rot or get infested. Cars break down. Computers become obsolete. Money should reduce in value too, since money is (or should be) foremost a mechanism for exchange of perishable goods or labor. If money increases in value in time, or even stays the same, this encourages hoarding, since money becomes a better investment than what it supposed to stand for. If you did me a favor ten years ago, it matters to me less than if you did one today, because time erases everything. Your money should also be worth somewhat less today. It's silly to think that the labor or goods of your ancestors should entitle you to goods today, but people think that way about money.

    Of course, the rich DO NOT want their money to diminish in value.