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Swiss War Game Envisages Invasion By Bankrupt French

An anonymous reader writes "The Telegraph reports, 'Hordes of bankrupt French invade Switzerland to get their hands on their "stolen" money — such is the imaginary scenario cooked up by the Swiss military in simulations revealed over the weekend. Carried out in August, the apparently outlandish army exercise was based on the premise of an attack by a financially stricken France split into warring regions, according to Matin Dimanche, the Lausanne-based daily. ... Operation "Duplex-Barbara" went as far as imagining a three-pronged invasion from points near Neufchâtel, Lausanne and Geneva, according to a map published in the Swiss newspaper. Behind the dastardly raid was a paramilitary organization dubbed BLD, the Dijon Free Brigade bent on grabbing back "money that Switzerland had stolen from Saônia". "For its credibility, the Swiss army must work (to ward against) threats of the 21st century," Antoine Vielliard, Hauate-Savoie councilor, told Matin Dimanche. However, Daniel Berger, captain of the Swiss armored brigade, sought to play down the specificity of the threat. "The exercise has strictly nothing to do with France, which we appreciate" he told the Swiss press. ... "French towns were cited to provide soldiers with a real scale," he said. ... Neutral Switzerland has not been invaded since the Napoleonic Wars of the early 19th century. '"

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  1. Countries do this all the time by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Countries prepare war games involving invasions to or from nearby countries all the time. This just isn't that big a deal. The US likely has plans to invade Canada if necessary (although at least publicly the last one was canceled in the 1930s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Plan_Red), and almost certainly has plans to invade Mexico. The Swiss have made their entire foreign policy center around a combination of neutrality and being prepared to repulse any invader, so this shouldn't be at all surprising.

    1. Re:Countries do this all the time by Animats · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Countries prepare war games involving invasions to or from nearby countries all the time.

      True, but Switzerland takes it up a level. Permanent tank traps in farmers fields, hidden military installations all over the country, bomb shelters, and a huge military reserve with regular training.

    2. Re:Countries do this all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      I live just outside of Wengen, Switzerland. Every home in my town has a bomb shelter. It was required at the time it was built.

    3. Re:Countries do this all the time by DrFalkyn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Countries prepare war games involving invasions to or from nearby countries all the time.

      True, but Switzerland takes it up a level. Permanent tank traps in farmers fields, hidden military installations all over the country, bomb shelters, and a huge military reserve with regular training.

      All purely defensive measures, which for a small country that hopes to repel potential invaders, while retaining their neutrality and not having rely on "allies" to bail them out, seem pretty reasonable.

    4. Re:Countries do this all the time by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And its paid off so far... no one has touched them. Less vigilant countries cannot make the same claim.

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    5. Re:Countries do this all the time by Dave+Emami · · Score: 5, Funny

      Famous but probably-apocryphal conversation between a visiting German general and his Swiss counterpart, prior to WW2:

      German: How many men are under your command?
      Swiss: I can mobilize one million men in less than twenty-four hours.
      German: What would happen if I marched five million men through that pass tomorrow?
      Swiss: I would call up my men. Each man would fire five shots. Then I would send them home.

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    6. Re:Countries do this all the time by cold+fjord · · Score: 5, Funny

      True, but Switzerland takes it up a level. Permanent tank traps in farmers fields, hidden military installations all over the country, bomb shelters, and a huge military reserve with regular training.

      And for some of them, an almost fanatical dedication to the pope.

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    7. Re:Countries do this all the time by laejoh · · Score: 5, Funny

      Oh my gawd, I didn't expect that!

    8. Re:Countries do this all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Living outside a small town in Norway, this is common here too. Our bridges are also prepared for quick demolition. Same thing in Sweden.

      I thought this was common all over Europe, not just Switzerland even if they are the only country commonly mentioned.

    9. Re:Countries do this all the time by someone1234 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      So, terrorists don't have much to do?

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    10. Re:Countries do this all the time by rapidmax · · Score: 3, Informative

      That's not true anymore. The explosives has been removed year ago.

    11. Re:Countries do this all the time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Terrorists are such a vanishingly irrelevant problem that it's not on the scale of things we even need to protect ourselves against. We need to protect against vending-machine related accidents before we need to deal with terrorism. Or wide-spread robbery of public funds by the financial sector.

    12. Re:Countries do this all the time by N3x)( · · Score: 3, Interesting

      In Sweden this practise is being discontinued. Premade drillholes are being filled with concrete and such. I doubt any of swedens larger infrastructure has these devices anymore.

    13. Re:Countries do this all the time by Sique · · Score: 3, Funny
      I often compare the number of people dying in a terrorist attack in Germany with the number of people dying due to suffocation by a fishbone (because I have the numbers for both). During the last 40 years, there were less than 200 deaths in Germany caused by known terrorist groups (32 of them killed by the Red Army Fraction, 10 by the National Socialist Underground). Every year, 700 people choke on a fishbone, which gives us 28000 fishbone related deaths in the last 40 years.

      When do we start the War On Fishponds?

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    14. Re:Countries do this all the time by Karmashock · · Score: 3, Informative

      By folded you mean what?

      The swiss have been making a fortune by acting as a tax evasion haven for Europeans. The dirty little hypocrites have been saying one thing and doing another for generations. And I apply that to most of the EU.

      So the Swiss start expanding their game to US clients and shockingly the US IRS isn't as willing to play that game.

      We're always told about the taxes in europe. But one of the secrets is that the tax enforcement agencies in europe are a joke compared to the IRS. Income in France for example is negotiable. That is you can bargain about what your income actually was that year. The IRS isn't interested in your bargains. They want to know what you made and on what and when. The IRS is not f'ing around. True, they're getting scammed pretty hard by the multi nationals but its unclear as to why that is happening. It could be bribery or it could be just getting out played. I suspect they're mostly getting out played. The Multinationals like to bury bureaucracies in details until their eyes bleed. IBM famously gave the government something like 5 million documents in a court case involving monopoly charges. Case went on for a decade because the government had to read through all the documents. Which took hundreds of people that whole time. By the time the government got around to making a case it was too late and no one cared anymore.

      Microsoft did the same thing. Enron TRIED to do the same thing but it didn't work.

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  2. Reality is Stranger than Fiction by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just wait till the shut-down the government in USA.

    It'll be like Tienanmen Square, but with tanks vs smart phone slinging teenage mutant ninjas.

    Even worse! All of the 401ks are backed by the stork market.... Another crash and it'll be 60 something hippies in business casual firing Ronald Rayguns.

  3. Not to worry! by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny

    Neutral Switzerland has not been invaded since the Napoleonic Wars of the early 19th century.

    By, uhm, France.

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  4. Operation "Duplex-Barbara"..? by drkim · · Score: 4, Funny

    I saw a movie called "Duplex-Barbara" once, but it was about this girl named Barbara taking a shower (in her duplex), and then the Pizza delivery guy arrives.

    Now that I think about it - there was some French kissing in it...

  5. Why Switzerland ? by o'reor · · Score: 3, Interesting
    That's ridiculous. Why would the French army go to the pains of crossing the alps and trying to invade a country that has atomic shelters everywhere, a well trained national guard and a good army (or reputedly so), when it would only take two days and an infantry division to invade filthy-rich Luxembourg ?

    Add a navy operation on Jersey, Guernesey and Sark to hunt down rogue bankers in neighouring tax havens for good measure, and voilà !

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  6. Re:They're paranoid about their wealth by Xest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    No it wasn't. A lot of money in Swiss banks is money held by the owners illegally, we're not talking about tax avoidance here, we're talking about out and out tax evasion.

    Switzerland has gotten rich by allowing criminally obtained money to be stored in it's banks and then refusing to cooperate with the authorities of nations from where it was obtained illegally.

    We're talking literally billions of dollars that do not belong to the people Switzerland is letting keep it being held in Swiss banks which the Swiss banks, like pretty much all banks, then use to invest and make themselves wealthier.

    Switzerland has very much gotten rich off the back of illegally obtained money. This is the problem with most tax havens and especially Switzerland - it's not just that they act as a low tax place for tax avoiders to stash billions, it's the fact that they also allow tax evaders to store money that does not belong to them.

    The fact is that if Switzerland wasn't complicit in supporting criminality in just about every other nation in the world it wouldn't be even close to as wealthy as it is now, and that's what the GP was referring to - that the Swiss know full well if shit went down financially then people are going to come knocking and demand the Swiss hand back all that illegally held money and hence the reason they come up with such scenarios is because they know full well they're guilty and hold such illegally obtained funds in the first place.

  7. A sign of the times by hpa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is a good sign of the times how far things have advanced that a country in Western Europe cannot come up with any military exercise scenario which can be considered credible. This hasn't exactly been the norm, to put it mildly. At this point in time, the risk of a war in Europe is largely confined to the Balkans, and even there is looking increasingly unlikely that we'll have a full-scale return to fighting.