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Tom Clancy Is Dead At 66

guttentag writes "The author of The Hunt for Red October and many military and espionage novels which inspired a number of movies video games died last night in a Baltimore Hospital. The news was first reported by Publishers Weekly's Twitter account this morning and confirmed by New York Times Book Reporter Julie Bosman's Twitter account."

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  1. We lost a good one here. by Virtucon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Although his writing was pretty mechanical, his stories were real page turners. It's sad to see him go.

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    1. Re:We lost a good one here. by bhcompy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Without Remorse was one of the better modern fiction novels I've read, and totally accessible to those not looking for military porn

    2. Re:We lost a good one here. by Nidi62 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One of my favorites, as is Red Storm Rising (at one point I may have had 3 copies of Without Remorse, and 4 copies of Red Storm Rising). The juxtaposition of the 2 jungles (one an actual jungle, Vietnam; the other an urban jungle, the poor/drug areas of Baltimore) was really well done, especially how Clark has to transition each way pretty much overnight. And Red Storm Rising is classic military porn, yes. But as a standalone novel the characters were pretty well developed, the plot was believable, and the combat seemed spot on and realistic, both in the technologies/tactics used and the outcomes.

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    3. Re:We lost a good one here. by oobayly · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Definitely, thought the Jack Ryan universe got a bit stupid in the end. I did however enjoy tying up various characters from all the books, even the minor ones (Bondarenko, Ozo). I have to say that Red Storm Rising was probably my favourite.

      Shame to see him go, even though I haven't read any new of his for absolute years.

    4. Re:We lost a good one here. by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

      i just wish he hadnt put his name on those "co-authored" series, never cared for most of those.

      But, really, can you blame him?

      When someone comes along and says "hey, we'll give you big piles of money if we can crank out pulp associated with your name and based in and around your fiction", it's hard to turn them down when they add enough zeroes.

      I suspect he was happy enough to get the money.

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    5. Re:We lost a good one here. by Virtucon · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Kind of like every time there's a problem with a plane they roll out "Miracle on the Hudson" Capt. Sullenberger?
      Clancy did a lot of research for all of his books, you have to give him props for that. While he never served in the Military he
      knew a lot about the motivations and the technology which made his books more realistic.

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    6. Re:We lost a good one here. by ebno-10db · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Although his writing was pretty mechanical, his stories were real page turners.

      That's certainly true of the earlier books that he actually wrote. I think I read and enjoyed all of them. One thing I've always disliked is when authors needlessly inject their own politics, left or right, into fiction, but Clancy was no worse with that than many authors.

      It's another story when you start talking about the later books (after 2003) that said "by Tom Clancy" in gigantic type, and "with so-and-so" in little type. In other words, books not really written by Clancy. Why a successful author would do that is beyond me. Even if he didn't feel like ever writing another book, he didn't need to, as I'm sure he'd already made a fortune from his books and the movie rights.

    7. Re:We lost a good one here. by Alomex · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Clancy did a lot of research for all of his books, you have to give him props for that.

      He was given unfettered access to the military and often his stories were really just fictionalizations with mild embellishments of actual events. This follows on a long tradition of artists (painters, writers, photographers) being given special access to war theaters. So nothing wrong with that, I just don't know if I would call this "research".

    8. Re:We lost a good one here. by osu-neko · · Score: 2

      Bingo. And some people liked them. You're always free to buy or not buy what you like or don't like.

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    9. Re:We lost a good one here. by guises · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Setting aside his writing for the moment, he impressed me back in 2001 on September 11. He had a book where some terrorists hijacked a plane and crashed it into the capital building, so the news drones had him on so they could say things at him about that. Meanwhile, he had a message: "Don't make the mistake of blaming Islam or Muslims for this. This was a specific group of terrorists, not representative of Muslims in general." (I paraphrase.) The talking heads tried to redirect him, ask him how he "felt" about this or that nonsense, but he stayed on message.

      He was the only one for at least a couple of days after 9/11 (that I saw on TV at least) who both recognized that this would be a problem and who called for consideration in the face of bigotry. I have trouble believing that he was the only one who recognized that this would be a problem.

    10. Re:We lost a good one here. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      ... it always made me a bit queasy that a novelist was treated as a serious option for comment on military or geopolitical 'News' shows.

      As opposed to the network anchor? You realize that they don't set the bar up very high for these sorts of things.

      After all, it's only 'news'.

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    11. Re:We lost a good one here. by ImprovOmega · · Score: 2

      Kind of like every time there's a problem with a plane they roll out "Miracle on the Hudson" Capt. Sullenberger?

      That really doesn't bother me. I mean, yeah it shows a complete lack of understanding and valuation of expert opinion on the part of the news guys doing that, but if someone is skilled and lucky enough to do what Sullenberger did in ditching that plane on having everyone survive... Well, I would say such a person deserves not to have to work at a real job much more than some random celebrity bimbo who's biggest accomplishment in life is a trashy sex tape that got out on the internet. At least Sully actually did something useful.

    12. Re:We lost a good one here. by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Although his writing was pretty mechanical, his stories were real page turners.

      I guess that the people who claim that Tolkien's writing in LoTR progresses very slowly haven't read the six or so pages (forming an entire chapter) that Clancy spends on the first thirty nanoseconds of the nuclear explosion in Sum of All Fears. ;-)

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    13. Re:We lost a good one here. by kermidge · · Score: 2

      What also struck me at the time was Condoleeza Rice saying that "no one could have imagined" using planes to hit buildings. On my bookshelf at the time were three books with just that plot element, Clancy's "Debt of Honor" among them.

    14. Re:We lost a good one here. by nabsltd · · Score: 3, Informative

      "Red October", the story of the largest magnetic anomaly in the ocean, that for some reason was undetectable by the US Navy, because. . . Well damnit because I said so.

      Soviet "Alfa" class submarines have titanium hulls, which are non-magnetic.

      Who is to say if the fictional advanced Typhoon-class submarine in HfRO has the same feature? Also, if you have you ever done search-and-rescue, you'd know that the "mowing the lawn" pattern takes a very long time to cover any area, and it assumes that the target isn't moving. With the target traveling at 25 knots, you'd need a really good knowledge of the planned course plus hundreds of airplanes just to have any chance. Add in the problem of lots of false positives (including all the other subs and ships searching), and it's not nearly as easy as you seem to think.

    15. Re:We lost a good one here. by tnk1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The thing with Sullenberger is that he was always involved in industry safety programs and such. He is very knowledgeable about those aspects, it also so happens that he got to put them into practice. In another life, he might still be someone that you would bring in as an expert speaker on certain airline safety topics even without his dramatic landing. It's just that it would have been at industry conventions, as opposed to live TV. As TV goes, they lucked out on him as a hero.

      Clancy was less of an expert than that, but as others have said, he either did his research or hob-nobbed with people who just gave him material, so he certainly wasn't the worst person they could have picked. And do remember, his initial research got him his first book and deal, he didn't get actual access until he was more popular (and beloved of the Defense Department).

  2. Now who is going to... by Niterios · · Score: 2

    Write the story for Ghost Recon 17: Invade Cuba Again?

    1. Re:Now who is going to... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm guessing a Ghost writer.

  3. I would like to have seen Montana. by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

    n/t

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  4. A Blue October by kingtet · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The technical detail and intriguing blending of military tactics and politics engrossed me as a child. Perhaps more importantly, his political views that often shone through his writings challenged my own, which are often contrary to the ones he held, in a way that did not make me instinctively defensive or unreasonable. He was a great writer, indeed. RIP.

  5. Very tech oriented by onyxruby · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He was very tech oriented and worked extensively with people in the field to try to make his novels sound as accurate on the details as he could. He was good enough at taking non-classified data and extrapolating where things could go from there that he received visits from the FBI and CIA to find out how he knew what he knew.

    He certainly made things up (caterpillar drive for the sub etc), but the point is he worked tirelessly to get technical details right in as many cases as he could, and to try get them as plausible as he could get away with in those cases where he needed to make the up. He put a lot more effort into getting the details right than most authors and far more than Hollywood ever did and for that his passing is very relevant for Slashdot. He took creative license, but he took it far less than a lot of other authors (Bourne Ultimatum series etc) and used it far more selectively.

    He wrote 17 number one selling books and had three of his books turned into blockbuster movies. He was active in having games made about his books even back in the 80's and made sure a series of games was made ever since then. He came up with ideas for terrorism like flying a civilian airliner into a government building before 9/11.

    1. Re:Very tech oriented by mu51c10rd · · Score: 2

      Slight correction...he had 4 movies made after his books. The press releases keep skipping Clear and Present Danger with William Dafoe and Harrison Ford. Hunt for Red October, Patriot Games, Clear and Present Danger, and Sum of All Fears.

  6. /. Obituary Section Please by Freshly+Exhumed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So the passing of an author who is popular amongst nerds and geeks gets mentioned here (all due respect to Clancy) while the obituaries of much more significant pioneers of geeky, nerdy things are routinely dropped from consideration after submission. It happens again and again. It seems like popularity trumps significance. How about an Obituary Section?

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  7. Red Storm Rising by Zedrick · · Score: 2

    I've always wondered what kind of audience his books are intended for. I really liked Red Storm Rising when I first read it at the age of 14-15, Patriots, Hunt For the Red October and something else were also fun. Then I (and my classmates) kind of outgrew him, and the later books just seems bizarre - greens are terrorists?

    I can still enjoy re-reading some stuff, just like I can kind of enjoy watching teen-movies like Pacific Rim (ok, that's not totally true - stopped watching after 4/5th when I got tired of all pointless robot battles). But I get the impression most of his readers are adults?

    Anyway, thanks Tom for at least providing the inspiration for Red Storm Rising the sub simulator! One of the best C64 games ever.

    1. Re:Red Storm Rising by cold+fjord · · Score: 2

      ... the later books just seems bizarre - greens are terrorists?

      Some of them, yes.

      Domestic Eco-Terrorism Has Deep Pockets. And Many Enablers.

      The combined damage in North America alone from eco-terrorism was estimated by the FBI to exceed $100 million.

      These terrorists did not limit their actions to the destruction of property. They planted pipe bombs, mailed packages booby-trapped with razor blades, and physically assaulted scientists at public events. By 2001 the FBI had characterized them as the nation’s most active domestic terrorist group. One ELF member remains at large and on the FBI’s Most Wanted list today. Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, these radical domestic acts of violence against agriculture slowed as public tolerance for these crimes wore thin, but the attacks continued overseas with the support of groups like Greenpeace.

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    2. Re:Red Storm Rising by gstoddart · · Score: 2

      I've always wondered what kind of audience his books are intended for.

      For me, Tom Clancy books were always the ones I brought on vacation with me. In fact, they still are. Most of the books are pretty long, so you only need to bring one or two with you.

      His books are pretty much geo-political/military/espionage thrillers, usually have a very complex plot presented from multiple angles involving a lot of events and characters, and make for a very satisfying (if admittedly escapist) read.

      Since there was continuity across the books in terms of characters and the overall arc (even if they weren't published in order), you could pick up the book and mostly know who the players were and remember why you liked the characters. Even if you just grab one from the series it's got that familiar "yeah, this is what I want right not" kind of read to it.

      I wouldn't call it Earth-changing literature, but it's still an enjoyable read. And when I'm lounging pool-side in the Caribbean with a drink in my hand ... it's pretty much exactly what I want to be reading. Not overly taxing, but page turning and time filling in an enjoyable way.

      Tom Clancy has been my go-to 'fluff' read for a long time now, and every couple of years I re-read some or all of them.

      Then again, I know a lot of people who absolutely hated his books, so they definitely weren't for everybody.

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  8. Let the Conspiracy Theories begin... by wernercd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Obamacare starts. Tom Clancy Dies. Coincidence? I think not.

    1. Re:Let the Conspiracy Theories begin... by istartedi · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh come on, you can do better than that. How about this: NSA spy thriller manuscript found partially written in dead author's home. Contained too much truth. Experts say it may have gone beyond Snowden's revelations, and pulled in numerous undisclosed sources. Cause of death remains unknown.

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    2. Re:Let the Conspiracy Theories begin... by MTEK · · Score: 2

      Yikes, I realize cost-controls are an unfortunate reality, but someone needs to slow down those death panels.

  9. Twitter? Really? by saveferrousoxide · · Score: 2

    Am I the only one who finds it sad that such an influential author's death warranted only a tweet by his publisher and that it was "confirmed" by a NYT reporter's tweet as opposed to say, Clancy's estate or an official family statement? Tom Clancy dies and he gets two tweets. I suppose there's a bit of irony there. Now get off my lawn.

  10. CRAZY IVAN by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I shout this every time I see someone fake right then flip around for a u-turn at a 4-way stop in San Francisco, which is like every day.

  11. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by schwit1 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Michael Clarke Duncan was a Vegetarian and he died at 54.

    http://www.peta.org/features/Michael-Clarke-Duncan.aspx

  12. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by Phelony · · Score: 2

    This whole thread will probably be modded down, but the OP, statistically is probably right. Someone dieing in the US @ 66 was probably afflicted with coronary artery disease (almost always from a lifetime of chronic animal consumption, as a plant-based diet doesn't impart plaque on the artery walls like an animal-based diet does), or died from the the symptoms of diabetes. He wasn't a smoker, so lung cancer can probably be ruled out. Also doubt he got hit by a car while on his skateboard.

  13. In the words of Capt. Ramius by dreamstateseven · · Score: 2

    Where I am going, you cannot follow.

  14. *toasts* by PortHaven · · Score: 3, Informative

    [R]ed Storm Rising
    [I]nto the Storm
    [P]atriot Games

    Tom Clancy :'(

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    And lets not forget his depicting an aircraft being crashed into the capitol building years before it was attempted in real life.

  15. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by spartacus_prime · · Score: 2

    I'll be that within 24 hours of his death he wasn't doing much of anything.

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  16. Tom Clancy and The Death of His Age by Phoenix666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It used to be you could read Tom Clancy and identify with the characters, exult in the common mission, and marvel at his technical details. It didn't matter what part of the political spectrum you hailed from, you could still read his books and feel good about being an American. Then at some point, I think it was "Debt of Honor," his schtick slid beyond to a right-wing crazyland fantasy where I could not follow.

    I come from a military family. I come from a family with deep roots in America, half native-American, half-original European settlers. I could not stomach the jingoism that defined his later writing. America is not a destination, it's a process. If you forget that, and kick everybody who you don't see eye-to-eye with off the bus, then you forfeit your own seat on the ride, as far as I'm concerned.

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  17. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

    Also, at the risk of Godwinning the thread, a certain vegetarian German politician died at 56.

    Vegetarians and vegans aren't necessarily any healthier than anyone else: It all depends on a lot more than what somebody eats or doesn't eat.

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  18. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2

    Vegetarians and vegans aren't necessarily any healthier than anyone else: It all depends on a lot more than what somebody eats or doesn't eat.

    I know a vegan who eats a steady diet of ho-ho's and sugared coconut milk. This individual is about 450lbs.

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  19. His early books are classics by sirwired · · Score: 3, Insightful

    His early books, (all in the Jack Ryan) series, up to and including Cardinal of the Kremlin, were excellent, as was Red Storm Rising and some of his non-fiction books were excellent. Well-written, tightly-plotted, thrillers with interesting characters. I think Sum of All Fears was the start of the slide (Clear and Present was borderline...)

    I was first introduced to his books when reading a copy of Hunt for Red October in my high-school library. In retrospect, I should have stolen it, as it was a first-edition copy from the Naval Institute Press. (His jacket photo was of him as a dorky clerk in his Father-in-law's insurance office.)

    I think his later books suffered from his success, as they were written like he no longer paid any attention to his editor (I once saw the same sentence repeated on consecutive pages), and his books become overlong, sloppy, and too packed with rambling polemic. (Although I suppose you can argue that for the audience that enjoys polemic, they were too mild.)

  20. Re:Unhealthy Americans vs. Veganism by mjwx · · Score: 2

    Also, at the risk of Godwinning the thread, a certain vegetarian German politician died at 56.

    Vegetarians and vegans aren't necessarily any healthier than anyone else: It all depends on a lot more than what somebody eats or doesn't eat.

    I disagree,

    There aren't any vegan rock stars because they all collapsed mid show due to a lack of iron and protein.

    Plus it's near impossible to find organic, fair-trade cocaine.

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