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Pentagon Spent $5 Billion For Weapons On Day Before Shutdown

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "John Reed at Foreign Policy reports that the Pentagon awarded 94 contracts Monday evening on its annual end-of-the-fiscal-year spending spree, spending more than five billion dollars on everything from robot submarines to Finnish hand grenades and a radar base mounted on an offshore oil platform. To put things in perspective, the Pentagon gave out only 14 contracts on September 3, the first workday of the month. Some of the more interesting purchases from Monday's dollar-dump include the $2.5 billion award the Defense Logistics Agency gave to aircraft engine-maker Pratt & Whitney for 'various weapons system spare parts' used by the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines, $65 million for military helmets from BAE Systems, $24 million for 'traveling wave tubes' to amplify radio signals from Thales, $17 million for liquid nitrogen, $15 million for helium and $19 million on cots. The Air Force, traditionally DOD's biggest spender, was relatively restrained; it dished out only 17 contracts including $49 million to help France buy 16 MQ-9 Reaper drones, $64 million to Lockheed for help operating spy satellites that are equipped with infrared cameras, and $9 million to URS Corp. for maintenance work on the Air National Guard's fleet of RC-26B spyplanes that help domestic law enforcement agencies catch drug dealers. The air service also spent $9 million on a new gym at the Air Force Academy that includes areas for CrossFit training, space for the academy's Triathlon Club and a 'television studio.' It just goes to show, says Reed, that 'even when the federal government is shutdown and the military has temporarily lost half its civilian workforce, the Pentagon can spend money like almost no one else.'"

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  1. Do I even want to know? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Aside from it being incrementally more legal than just handing the money directly to the manufacturer, why would the US be helping France pay for MQ-9s? Is there any way in which this isn't a pure handout to General Atomics, essentially Uncle Sam offering a manufacturer's rebate on their behalf?

    1. Re:Do I even want to know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Because France is one of our allies(out oldest ally), and sometime allies negotiate deals.

      If it wasn't for the French during the revolutionary war, we would all be speaking english right now.

    2. Re:Do I even want to know? by bobbied · · Score: 2

      It's fun to project what would have happened had the French not decided to poke a stick into the king of England's eye. Somehow, I don't think we'd still be colonies of Britain, but exactly *what* we would be had the likes of Franklin and Washington had been killed for treason and not been available to craft our constitution is hard to imagine.

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    3. Re:Do I even want to know? by timeOday · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Canada seems like a fairly close case for comparison. Australia or New Zealand too I guess.

      One thing to think about is that slavery was ended throughout the British empire 30 years before the civil war. Does that mean US independence delayed freedom for American slaves? Of course there is no knowing.

    4. Re:Do I even want to know? by dbIII · · Score: 2

      No. The history of all of those was directly shaped by the American Revolution and at least two out of three on independance started with a political system very heavily based upon what the USA had at that time (~1900).
      It's very hard to imagine what the modern world would be like without the USA in it, and I'm somebody on the other side of the planet to the USA.

    5. Re:Do I even want to know? by bobbied · · Score: 2

      You labor under the delusion that wealth is a fixed sized pie we all must share. I understand why folks think that way, but it really is short sighted. We can all have an improved standard of living if we realize that the wealth pie can get bigger, and while I may have less of a share of the total pie, my piece is actually bigger than it was before.

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  2. Hey guys, seriously. by eexaa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Stop whining for money.
    Stop envying money.
    Stop money.
    It will be cool.

    1. Re:Hey guys, seriously. by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stop whining for money.
      Stop envying money.
      Stop money.
      It will be cool.

      I did that.
      I got hungry.
      So I found a job.
      It wasn't cool but better than hungry.

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    2. Re:Hey guys, seriously. by DaveAtFraud · · Score: 3, Funny

      Given that the GP suggested the abolishment of currency, I'm pretty sure you're begging the question.

      But begging the question is still better than begging for food.

      Cheers,
      Dave

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    3. Re:Hey guys, seriously. by marcello_dl · · Score: 3, Funny

      > Do you not understand the concept of moderation?
      +1000000000 insightful

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    4. Re:Hey guys, seriously. by phantomfive · · Score: 3

      Well, that sounds like an interesting enough train of thought.

      Let's assume that he's not suggesting we go back to the barter system, because that is essentially capitalism with additional drawbacks.

      We can't go to a post-scarcity world yet where you have everything you need and want, first because we don't have enough to satisfy our desires, and secondly because we'll probably never have enough to satisfy our desires.

      In practice, communes have not worked when they get too big.

      Lycurgus of Sparta legendarily had a potentially workable idea, when he decreed that iron would be the same value as gold and silver, essentially making all money worthless, and followed by creating the Spartan system. The primary drawback there is it requires the people to work constantly towards a common goal (external defense and suppression of the Helots in the case of Sparta). We don't have such a common goal in America that we all work towards.

      You can try the Marxist approach, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need;" a phase which ignores the distribution problem altogether, only works when people are altruistic (or shall we call them the 'new soviet women?), and then runs into problems when you have more than enough resources to supply everyone with their needs.

      So what exactly is your plan to get rid of currency?

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  3. This isn't news; this is Fed end of year by Xaedalus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This article is pointless--the Federal fiscal year ended on September 30th. Of COURSE the Pentagon's going to spend money like crazy--just about every purchasing department in the Federal Government waits until the very last day to fill out their orders. Doing so allows them to negotiate for better deals to benefit us taxpayers, or allows them to be told how much they've got to spend. This is not a surprise, folks. It's just timing, that's all.

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    1. Re:This isn't news; this is Fed end of year by Obfuscant · · Score: 4, Informative
      This. The last statement in the summary is just ridiculous.

      "even when the federal government is shutdown and the military has temporarily lost half its civilian workforce, the Pentagon can spend money like almost no one else."

      The government hadn't yet been shut down. They military hadn't yet lost "half its civilian workforce".

      This is normal end-of-fiscal-year activity. There is a lot of money that is allocated on contingency. Agencies don't always spend everything they were given. They don't know until late in September how much they haven't spent out of the allocated amounts, so they can't spend the rest until late September.

      Now, if you got rid of congress saying "you didn't spend all we gave you last year so we're going to give you less this year", you'd go a long way towards ending the end of year spending spree. You wouldn't completely end it because, of course, they have to give the leftover money back. If you got rid of that, too, the spree would be much smaller, if it happens at all.

      But why ARE we paying for France to buy drones?

    2. Re:This isn't news; this is Fed end of year by gravis777 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was thinking along the same lines. It's the end of the year. It is their money - it was budgeted for them. You spend it or loose it, just like in any other department in any other company in the world.

      "Oh, no, they spent money budgeted for them! This is awful!"

      Buying helmets for soldiers? Sounds like a good buy (although isn't BAE British? Oh well, still an alley). $9 million on a gym at an Air Force Academy? Sounds like a reasonable price amount and a reasonable purchase. $64 million to Lockheed which employees hundreds of thousands of civilians? Good for them keeping Americans working. Several million on liquid nitrogen and helium for scientific research and use in various areas? $2.5 billion to another civilian contractor for spare parts to maintain weapon systems, basically keeping weapons in working order and keeping tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands employed?

      Stupid stupid article.

    3. Re:This isn't news; this is Fed end of year by khallow · · Score: 2

      This is the corporate welfare that liberals whine about, but that the conservative electorate seems completely oblivious to.

      Unless it involves renewable energy or electric cars. Then the obliviousness kicks in.

    4. Re:This isn't news; this is Fed end of year by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 2

      Proposal: start tagging political stories with the informal fallacies they use in order to create spin. This one, for example, is a fairly clear-cut case of misleading vividness, or perhaps someone very unfamiliar with the budget jumping to conclusions.

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  4. Re:NOT News For Nerds by RichMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    a) nerds also follow politics
    b) a lot of nerds are employed from defense department money

  5. Re:NOT News For Nerds by tgd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is a pure politics story. Why the fuck is this on slashdot? Its not news for nerds and not stuff that matters to anybody but political junkies.

    No, its not even politics. Its just business.

    Its *normal* for most companies to deal with contracts at the end of the quarter. Its especially normal for the end of the fiscal year. Budgets ended that day, so there's a desire by both the bean counters in the DoD and the companies they're buying things from to get the contracts signed before the end of the fiscal year.

    Anyone who thinks this is some big conspiracy or shocking is staggeringly ignorant of the real world and likely has either never had a job or had a job so low they never were exposed to things like fiscal years and end-of-quarter.

    Why do you think damn near every finance and sales person was chained to their desk until late on Monday evening? Because *every* business works that way.

  6. There is no real shutdown by SuperKendall · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The government continues to spend money on whatever it wants.

    The government, after the shutdown, spent money to rent barricades to close off national monuments that are normally open 24x7 with no means of closing access.

    They also spent money and time to turn off things like the "Panda Cam" that they could have just kept on until it failed.

    Any actual layoffs or closures are wholly there to annoy you and make you think you need government more than you do.

    Reject closures and go where you like. It's your land.

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    1. Re:There is no real shutdown by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      The government, after the shutdown, spent money to rent barricades to close off national monuments that are normally open 24x7 with no means of closing access.

      Of course. You can't leave public parks and monuments open to the public when you can shut them down create more upset and use it to political advantage.

      They also spent money and time to turn off things like the "Panda Cam" that they could have just kept on until it failed.

      The NASA website is closed, too. Nothing there that was available prior to the shutdown is now available. I guess the NASA website requires constant attention from a staff of IT web professionals just to keep it up. Otherwise, let the existing content be available and just don't add new things.

      Any actual layoffs or closures are wholly there to annoy you and make you think you need government more than you do.

      And to make political hay while the sun shines. As Saul Alinsky said, never let a crisis go to waste.

    2. Re:There is no real shutdown by Sarten-X · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The government, after the shutdown, spent money to rent barricades to close off national monuments that are normally open 24x7 with no means of closing access.

      ...And now it's spending less money on having fewer security guards.

      They also spent money and time to turn off things like the "Panda Cam" that they could have just kept on until it failed.

      ...Ensuring a clean shutdown from a known-good state, rather than expecting they'll need to spend more time troubleshooting everything when they get back.

      Any actual layoffs or closures are wholly there to annoy you and make you think you need government more than you do.

      If you're in a position to be laid off by the government, you're already pretty dependent on it. Once laid off, you have time to look for a job that isn't so tightly integrated with the madness of Congress. Layoffs seem to have the effect of pushing people away from government dependence.

      Reject closures and go where you like. It's your land.

      It is my land, isn't it? And it's also my neighbor's land, and his cousin's, and his nephew's friend's dog's mother's owner's dentist's son's land, too. It's all of ours, and the majority of us have decided to accept a common authority to ensure that the freedoms and amenities we have today are still around for our descendents. That means we want adequate security to keep vandals from screwing up our shiny monuments, and we want jackasses in the vocal minority to stop assuming they can be exempt from the rules by just ignoring authority. That's my government you're denouncing, and my neighbor's, and his cousin's, and his nephew's friend's dog's mother's owner's dentist's son's, too.

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    3. Re:There is no real shutdown by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2

      You think that the FBI and ATF are staffed, trained, and equipped to patrol federal parks? The park service law enforcement becomes non-essential as soon as you close the parks. It is in no way "essential" for a person to visit a park.

      And federal monuments are in federal parks and federal parks are often designated as monuments.

    4. Re:There is no real shutdown by BenSchuarmer · · Score: 2

      Last time I checked, the state or Oregon is different from the federal government.

  7. FTFY by tgd · · Score: 2

    This article is pointless--a fiscal year ended on September 30th. Of COURSE the business is going to spend money like crazy--just about every purchasing department in the company waits until the very last day to fill out their orders. Doing so allows them to negotiate for better deals to benefit the shareholders, or allows them to be told how much they've got to spend. This is not a surprise, folks. It's just timing, that's all.

    There. Tweaked it a bit, just to drive home how moronic this article is.

    1. Re:FTFY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am in the military and my department was not allowed to spend money for the last 6 months until last week, when money magically dropped. All of the necessary items had been seriously prioritized in the last six months, so the things that were purchased were not frivolous. Actually, the most frugal government year I have seen.

  8. This isn't unique to govt. by sirwired · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty much any large organization with annual budgets burns through any remaining money before the fiscal year runs out. The reasoning is simple: if you don't spend every penny, budget planners inevitably use that as evidence you didn't need the money and will give you less the next year, even if you then turn out to need it.

    In addition, there may be special projects the authorization for which expires at the end of the fiscal year.

    Lastly, the people selling the stuff have targets of their own to meet and will often give special deals if you close the deal before the end of their fiscal year.

  9. Re:NOT News For Nerds by MightyYar · · Score: 2

    It's certainly not news for nerds with any kind of a filter. $5 billion is less than 1% of the military budget. Assuming 260 work days per year and a $665 billion budget, an "average" day would be $2.56 billion. Obviously not all of that is procurement, but still this should elicit a yawn.

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  10. Re:NOT News For Nerds by Squiddie · · Score: 2

    I agree, I wanted to read more about the robot submarines.

  11. Re:NOT News For Nerds by omnichad · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This falls under "stuff that matters." And if I was going to read or participate in a discussion on this sort of thing, I'd rather be surrounded by Slashdot types.

  12. Re:NOT News For Nerds by tgd · · Score: 2

    Why do you think damn near every finance and sales person was chained to their desk until late on Monday evening? Because *every* business works that way.

    And here I was under the impression that the military wasn't a business. But I guess suiting up for the next avoidable war has higher margins than providing basic sustenance to women and children.

    Way to go, guys. You're really doing a heckuva job.

    Wow, even more moronic posts, or maybe you're just trolling. In either case, it doesn't matter if you're a non-profit, a public company, a private company, an individual, a church, a charity or a government agency. You buy goods and services to utilize in producing whatever it is you're expected to produce. Could be a healthy community, could be a flock of followers, cars, growing children into adults or blowing the everliving shit out somewhere on behalf of a country. The need to do reasonable bookkeeping is common across all of them, even if most individuals suck about it. From that standpoint, they're all businesses.

    Of course, via a certain level of abstraction, the military IS there as a business. We've overthrown governments for corporate interests many times in the last 150 years. It may happen via back room handshakes and sweet consulting deals after leaving office rather than invoices for services rendered, but it still happens.

    So you're basically trolling or stupid on two counts -- feigning a belief (or actually holding a belief) that government didn't exist for the powerful, and feigning a belief (or actually holding it) that basic accounting practices are only held by independent corporations.

  13. MajGen Smedley Butler to the white courtesy phone by Thud457 · · Score: 2

    I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that gambling is going on in here!

    You don't think some naive teabagger malcontents in the House are going to interfere with biddness as usual, do you?

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  14. Re:NOT News For Nerds by Kelbear · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work for a telecommunications systems company, specifically serving government/military channels.

    Over the 3 days leading up to 9/30, the volume of contract awards that came through was more than double that of the last 2 months. In the end it was still about 40% less than this time last year.

    They delay some purchases until the end of the year so they can be sure their budget doesn't run out in the middle of the year. When we get to the end of the year, they pull the trigger on the purchases they'd put off because they weren't sure what they have money left for. The rest are put on hiatus until next year when they get a new budget. Plus, some vendors have fiscal year-ends coinciding with the gov't, so to get bookings into the fiscal year-end and maximize year-end bonus comp., salesmen will push to provide the sharpest discounts they can manage to bring those awards into this year.

    It's not surprising to see a spurt of purchases at the end of the budget year.

  15. Re:NOT News For Nerds by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    We're here for you! Group hug!

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  16. Re:NOT News For Nerds by bobbied · · Score: 2

    It's not surprising to see a spurt of purchases at the end of the budget year.

    You are correct in all that you say. I just wanted to make sure this one part was clear.

    In the government being run on Continuing Resolutions like we've been on since this president took office, much of the budgeted money expires when the CR expires and this is usually written to be the end of the fiscal year. If you don't use the money in your budget, it goes away (expires) when the CR lapses.

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  17. Re:Fiscal cliff easily avoided. by bobbied · · Score: 2

    You obviously don't understand what "I'm in the Army" actually means... They own you, lock stock and barrel. Paid or not, you are in the Army. Your commitment to the services does not allow you to quit before your term is over. Further, if they don't want you to go and can invent a national security reason for you to stay, you get to stay.

    Now it might be hard to get folks to sign up if they are not getting paychecks, but those who where unlucky enough to already be in the service have no choice.

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  18. Wrong Story Focus by EMG+at+MU · · Score: 2

    The problem is not that they renewed all these contracts at the EOY, the problem is that while the asshats in washington are bitching about spending on things like social programs and health care (not saying they are good or bad programs) the asshats at the Pentagon are spending money like a /.er at Frys and no one is discussing that.

    I would love the discussion to be about whether or not we need to make these purchases given the state of our government budget and the global military situation.

    Do we need to bribe France to buy war machines from American defence companies? Especially when we are sending home kids in Head-Start?

  19. Perfectly logical argument by dkleinsc · · Score: 2

    The cutoff date was also the end of the third quarter of 2013, and budgets have to be overrun or it would get cut next year (provided Congress and the President ever came up with a budget). My guess is that there's a flurry of spending on 9/30 (or the Friday directly before then if 9/30 falls on a weekend) every single year going back a couple of decades.

    It's sort of like Neil DeGrasse Tyson's argument against one of the 2012 scares about planetary alignment: The planetary alignment the worrywarts were claiming was a disaster was going to happen on December 21, 2012, but it also happened on the winter solstice in every year before that.

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