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Google Wants To Help You Tiptoe Around the NSA & the Great Firewall of China

Kyle Jacoby writes "The NSA was right when it postulated that the mere knowledge of the existence of their program could weaken its ability to function. Virtual Private Networks (VPNs), which serve to mask the source and destination of data by routing it through a third-party server, have been a popular method for maintaining internet anonymity for the paranoid and prudent. However, the all-but-silent fall of secure email server Lavabit, and VPN provider CryptoSeal, have shown us just how pervasive the government's eye on our communications is. These companies chose to fold rather than to divulge customer data entrusted to them, which raises the million-dollar question: how many have chosen to remain open and silently hand over the keys to your data? Google has decided to put the private back in VPN by supporting uProxy, a project developed at the University of Washington with help from Brave New Software. Still using a VPN schema, their aim is to keep the VPN amongst friends (literally). Of course, you'll need a friend who is willing to let you route your net through their tubes. Their simple integration into Firefox and Chrome will lower the barrier, creating a decentralized VPN architecture that would make sweeping pen register orders more difficult, and would also make blocking VPNs a rather difficult task for countries like China, who block citizens' access to numerous websites. On a related note, when will the public finally demand that communications which pass encrypted through a third party still retain an reasonable expectation of privacy (rendering them pen register order-resistant)?"

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  1. Then Facebook will come out with a service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    to allow ppl to avoid Google's eavesdropping....

  2. So In Other Words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    uProxy has been compromised and should not be trusted.

  3. My friends are my identity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get what's so nice about it, the NSA already knows who I am friends with. So no matter how we route traffic in our min-TOR, all exits identify us. The whole point of VPNs, TOR etc. is to hide within massive noise.

  4. False. by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, if Google actually wanted that, they'd make their search engine work with Tor instead of saying "I'm sorry, but we're recieving a high volume of suspicious requests from your computer..." with a picture of a robot giving you the middle finger next to it. What Google wants is for you to use their service, and if that means pandering to the "NSA is evil" crowd, they'll make trivial gestures about privacy to attract them.

    But Google is in bed with the NSA, CIA, DHS, etc., as is all other large corporations because if you don't play ball with them, you don't get to play. At all. No PR is going to convince me otherwise, and you would be wise to do the same.

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    1. Re:False. by girlintraining · · Score: 4, Informative

      The Tor Browser bundle with HTTPS Everywhere works perfectly fine with Google.

      Not during prime time. I have to hop to a new exit point sometimes 5 or 6 times to find one that Google hasn't decided to lock out. Entering a CAPTCHA with every query is annoying, but whatever... but just plain failing... it does that often. Especially during prime time hours (6pm-2am US Eastern)

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  5. Trust by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Trust me," said the fox to the hen, "You can keep your eggs in my basket and I'll make sure the other foxes don't eat them."

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    1. Re:Trust by swillden · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Trust me," said the fox to the hen, "You can keep your eggs in my basket and I'll make sure the other foxes don't eat them."

      Google is saying exactly the opposite. Google is saying you should find someone you do find trustworthy, and route your traffic through their machine, not suggesting that you trust Google.

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  6. Re:Can VPN traffic be identified as such? by kyle3489 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OpenVPN (and therefore probably this solution) can be configured to appear as though it's normal SSL traffic (like you're visiting an https web URL). It's one of the things that makes OpenVPN so great, and hard to block.

  7. Re:A little late to the party... by currently_awake · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Googles intentions are irrelevant. The moment the NSA shows up with a general warrant (NSL) they will fold and give away everything. And that includes back-dooring the VPN software.

  8. Re:but not on Google Fiber by ArbitraryName · · Score: 4, Informative

    And immediately afterwards Google updated their policies to clarify that personal servers were allowed. Non-commercial VPN is explicitly allowed.

  9. If they really want to help... by Trimaxion · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd like to see Google make an effort to build GPG into their product and make it easy for people to use.

    If anyone can do it, it's Google, but they won't. It's hard to deliver targeted advertising when you can't read your users' email.

  10. Who Owns Key? What Signs Upstream? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't get what's so nice about it, the NSA already knows who I am friends with. So no matter how we route traffic in our min-TOR, all exits identify us. The whole point of VPNs, TOR etc. is to hide within massive noise.

    I want no part of "Google freedom". Their self driving cars? If these are the norm, they'll know where you are - all the time - and be queriable for your violations of speed limits and other "indiscretions".

    If you trust them for VPN? How are keys generated? Who is the root of trust? This is your real question.

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  11. Re:A little late to the party... by IamTheRealMike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Google was the first to roll out SSL for everything, the first to do SSL forward secrecy ... it's not like there was nothing done before Snowden.