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Torvalds: Free OS X Is No Threat To Linux

jfruh writes "Apple is now offering upgrades to the latest version of OS X for free. When Linux inventor Linus Torvalds was asked whether this threatened Linux (presumably by someone who had only a passing knowledge of all the things 'free' can mean when applied to software) it gave him an opportunity for a passionate defense of open source. Torvalds also says that he'll keep programming until it gets 'not interesting,' which hasn't happened yet." The newest version of OS X may be gratis for Apple hardware buyers, but it's notably far from the original, (literally) un-branded sense of "mavericks."

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  1. Linus Ducks Real Issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a clever ruse on Linus' part. The real issue, which he completely ignores, is the genuine threat to Linux provided by Microsoft's release of a free Windows 8.1 upgrade.

    Even if he doesn't want to talk about it, at least publicly, I know he's scared shitless.

    1. Re:Linus Ducks Real Issue by SirGarlon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Please recalibrate your sarcasm detector. :-)

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    2. Re:Linus Ducks Real Issue by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Funny

      He tried, it's stuck on Asshole.

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  2. Whiplash Article by Rob+Riggs · · Score: 4, Funny

    That article jerked around from one disjoint topic to another, and appears to have been written by someone who is functionally illiterate in computer technology.

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  3. Wrong Mavericks by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Informative

    The S is in there for a reason.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavericks_(location)

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    1. Re:Wrong Mavericks by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you've spent much time on the site, you'd realize that they operate with a very special kind of stupid around here. And by special kind of stupid, I mean about 1,000x the normal human amount.

      Yes, but it is free and open source stupidity; so that if you have some special need you can adapt it to your particular use of stupid. Some folks simply use it as is with a pre-existing build that they can cut and paste in replies, others make minor modifications and some fork it into a whole new type of stupidity because they think they have a better way to be stupid.

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  4. Free as in mousetrap cheese. by SchroedingersCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    OSX - free as in mousetrap cheese.

  5. Pointless point by King_TJ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The fact is, most Linux users get interested in installing/using it because they've got (typically older) hardware in front of them that they'd like to make useful without spending more money on it.

    The only Mac system users I've encountered who ran Linux were using very old "legacy" Macs that have long since been abandoned by Apple with software updates or support.

    So generally, the use-cases for OS X or Linux just don't really cross much.

  6. Re:the second dose is free by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Minimum upgrade point is Snow Leopard, which still only costs $30.

    You're forgetting the $600 minimum buy in from whatever Mac hardware allows you to run this OS.

    It's not free. It's bundled with expensive hardware.

    Some fanboy was really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this particular bit of propaganda. It makes it sound like they've run out of anything meaningful to say. It smacks of desperation.

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  7. Re:How anyone would think it's related to Linux? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They only offer UPGRADES for free? Then nothing changed, really. You'd still need to buy a Mac to use it legally. In fact it's kinda stupid OS updates were paid for in the first place.

    Yea, the question really wasn't that insightful since OSX and Linux really don't compete for the same user base; it's really a marketing shot at MS as well as a way to get people onto the new OS so as Apple decides to move in certain directions that can be assured much of their user base is on the latest OS.

    Oddly enough, Apple has come full circle from its early Apple ][ days when every OS release was free; it wasn't until MacOS came out did they eventually start charging. I forget what release was the first paid update. Of course, many programs were the same way, HyperStudio for example let any user upgrade to the latest version for free. I wonder if Apple is thinking it is better to tie users into the least versions and to your software by giving it away so that you can make money on devices and services; and they're betting that keeping everyone up to date will bind them even tighter into their closed ecosystem.

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  8. What people have to realize is that... by bennomatic · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...Apple does not have to fail for Linux to succeed, nor visa versa.

    The comments on this thread remind me of heated conversations I had as a 13 year old, when my friends and I couldn't agree on which was better, the Commodore 64, the Apple IIe or the Atari 800. Anyone who's read my previous comments probably knows that I was firmly in the Commodore 64 camp.

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  9. Re:the second dose is free by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Er what? The hardware requirements of Mavericks says that an iMac from 2007 is compatible. As far as MacBooks, late 2008 is the oldest. So six year old desktops and five year old laptops are compatible. It's not six or seven years but it's close. If you haven't noticed, hardware from 5 or 6 years ago has been good enough for most consumers on the PC side. That's one reason people have stopped buying new PCs.

    Second, how much does a 5 or 6 year old PC laptop go for? I can tell you it's often less than $200 considering new ones are not much more than that.

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  10. Timothy by Desler · · Score: 4, Informative

    The newest version of OS X may be gratis for Apple hardware buyers, but it's notably far from the original, (literally) un-branded sense of "mavericks."

    Good to see that "Timmeh" is just as bone-headed as ever. "Mavericks" is named after the California surf spot not an animal. That's why the default wallpaper and the promo images of the Macs running Mavericks are of a large wave. The keynote introducing Mavericks explained this as well.