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Rental Business Aaron's Admits Role In Spying On Customers

New submitter bhv writes "After firmly denying that it used software on its rent-to-own computers to spy on customers, including capturing passwords, sensitive financial information and images of private intimate moments, Atlanta-based Aaron's has owned up to the practice in a settlement with the Federal Trade Commission."

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  1. A settlement? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I would do jail time if I tried to pull that shit.

    1. Re:A settlement? by flogger · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Yes you would do time.

      because

      You are not the government.

      You are not a corporation.

      You are not wealthy enough to own lawyers.

      You are not wealthy enough to own politician.

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  2. Re:First thing I do when I buy a new computer by Deadstick · · Score: 3

    IANAL, but "rent-to-own" seldom really functions as a rental; it's effectively an installment sales contract in which you pay more interest than your state allows on real installment loans, in return for having walk-away rights.

  3. Re:First thing I do when I buy a new computer by Wycliffe · · Score: 3

    IANAL, but "rent-to-own" seldom really functions as a rental; it's effectively an installment sales contract in which you pay more interest than your state allows on real installment loans, in return for having walk-away rights.

    Although this is their target market, the "rent-to-own" purchases by the payday cash loan crowd, no sane people should
    ever use them to actually buy something as the price is usually double or more before you're finished.
    Using them as a rental is actually fairly reasonable though if you need furniture for a month or a big TV for a superbowl party.

  4. That's what they do by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Aaron's and similar rental companies are built on taking advantage of lower income folks who are not good financial decision makers. While there is an element of that with many businesses, these rental companies take it to the extreme.

  5. Re:All I can say to that is... by lordofthechia · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's a rent to own store and from a brief stint working in one (quite a few years ago) I can say that most of the clients were people who had bad credit and too poor or unable to save enough to buy *new* furniture/electronics outright.

    How it works? They take full MSRP (which usually gives you 100% markup) double *that* price then divide up into payments. So as an example a living room set with a $1500 MSRP (which probably cost them $700) would end up being $125 a month OR $57.70 a week (Easy Payments!). If the customer paid through the two years required to own it they would have paid $3000 for a couch they could have gotten for sale elsewhere for about $1200.

    The horrendous markup is more visible in electronics (a PS2 in it's day would have cost someone close to $1000 by the end of the year rent-to-own period).

    You are totally correct. The best situation for a consumer in that situation is to get furniture from either Goodwill, the Salvation Army, Craigslist, or the local newspaper classifieds. If they still want *new* furniture, then they can enjoy the used stuff till they save enough to buy what they really want outright (and re-sell the used item).

    Working that job made me realize that schools *must* have a personal finances class which goes over budgeting, avoiding scams, and setting up an affordable household.

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  6. Re:All I can say to that is... by dforreal · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It serves a useful purpose, if you use it for a short term needs. When I was an undergraduate in upstate New York, the "College Housing" cartels charged more than double the market rate for furnished apartments with shorter-term leases. It made far more sense to rent an unfurnished apartment intended for the locals with a one year lease, and just pay the extra rent for the two months most of us weren't there in the summer. Since most 18-21 year olds don't own furniture, nor wanted to be responsible for moving / storing / dealing with it. we could annually rent a full living room set with a big television - no one was responsible for buying it, we didn't have to split up possessions between roommates at the end of the year, and splitting the cost of all of it between four guys for 8-10 months was reasonable. At the end of the academic term we would call up the rental company and have them pick it all up. Next fall, we'd get the latest and greatest for that year delivered and moved in. rinse and repeat.

  7. Re:All I can say to that is... by HornWumpus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A fool and their money were lucky to get together in the first place.

    It's an immoral act to let a sucker keep his money.

    Until they force someone to rent from them they aren't doing anything wrong.

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    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  8. Re:First thing I do when I buy a new computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Apparently they weren't "rent-to-own" but rent-to-be-pwned.

  9. Re:All I can say to that is... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Working that job made me realize that schools *must* have a personal finances class which goes over budgeting, avoiding scams, and setting up an affordable household.

    The public schools already teach this. My daughter is in high school, and she had the class last year. It is called "Life Skills". They learn to budget and invest. They write a resume, dress in business attire, and attend a mock job interview. They also learn to plan and cook meals using a budget and nutritional information. It is an elective class, but nearly everyone takes it (it is an easy A, plus you get to make and eat cookies).

    The problem is that some people are just fundamentally stupid and irresponsible. No amount of education is going to fix that. The main problem is that these people can vote, so their irresponsibility is inflicted on all of us. If you run up twice your disposable income in credit card debt to pay for useless bling, then why shouldn't the government do the same?

  10. Re:All I can say to that is... by EvilSS · · Score: 3, Funny

    This is why all of my furniture is made from steel reinforced concrete. Sure, the pillows are a bit hard, but it's a small cost for peace of mind!

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  11. Re:All I can say to that is... by Nyder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Working that job made me realize that schools *must* have a personal finances class which goes over budgeting, avoiding scams, and setting up an affordable household.

    The public schools already teach this. My daughter is in high school, and she had the class last year. It is called "Life Skills". They learn to budget and invest. They write a resume, dress in business attire, and attend a mock job interview. They also learn to plan and cook meals using a budget and nutritional information. It is an elective class, but nearly everyone takes it (it is an easy A, plus you get to make and eat cookies).

    The problem is that some people are just fundamentally stupid and irresponsible. No amount of education is going to fix that. The main problem is that these people can vote, so their irresponsibility is inflicted on all of us. If you run up twice your disposable income in credit card debt to pay for useless bling, then why shouldn't the government do the same?

    You can not learn enough "Life Skills" in a semester of school. It's shit your parents need to teach you growing up.

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