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A Look at the Koch Brothers Dark-Money Network

An anonymous reader writes "The California attorney general and the state's top election watchdog named the 'Koch brothers network' of donors and dark-money nonprofits as the true source of $15 million in secret donations made last year to influence two bitterly fought ballot propositions in California. State officials unmasked the Kochs' network as part of a settlement deal that ends a nearly year-long investigation into the source of the secret donations that flowed in California last fall."

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  1. Re:blah blah blah by Nyder · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Koch bros does it, soros does it, both the neocons and liberal progressives do it, it is just a left VS right battle over who controls the kleptocratic fascist state, the only ones really losing is the middle class which shrinks every year while the ghettos keep getting bigger, in another decade the rest of the USA will look like Detroit

    Maybe the people need to do their own sort of justice on these people. If our government isn't going to effective, then isn't it up to us to put a stop to people like that? And by stop, I mean, put them to death. Extremist view, ya, but honestly, I'm getting sick of the bullshit in this country. It's getting time to make the governments and corporations fear the people again, instead of us fearing them.

    Also, thanks for the new word, kleptocractic. Describes what our corporate politicians are exactly.

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  2. Re:I guess the left has to have their bogeymen by zippthorne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    George Soros makes his money from currency arbitrage. You think he's above attempting to influence the factors that affect the relative value of currency?

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  3. Re:News For Nerds by hey! · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I dunno. Nerds like complicated machines. This story happens to be one constructed out of legal entities. The machine too complicated for the average attention span, so somebody who has a mentality that isn't daunted by a simple activity diagram ought to be paying attention.

    Maybe "News for Nerds" doesn't must mean "Nerdy Stuff". Maybe it could also mean "News for Nerds to Pay Attention To".

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  4. Idea: tax political donations or advertising by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We could probably balance the budget in no time!
     

  5. Re:Slashdot Conservatives by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You know, some part of me wonders. Why do liberals keep saying "rich people" and "conservatives" as they're interchangeable. Seriously. Lets pull out some of the top billionaires in this country, look not what they're registered as (as you'll find they're pretty much all registered independent), but look at their political leanings. Buffett made campaign contributions to the obama campaign. Bill Gates, called out for his college fund discriminating against whites along with also supporting obama, boy, that sounds like what a conservative would do. Ted Turner, need I say any more? All of the Hollywood elite? I'm sorry, but the rich people you hate so much are the liberals. I tend to think the conservatives are the middle class. The rich and the poor are the liberals. The ones who've tried, but weren't lucky end up in the middle class, and I think that brings a conservative edge to your life outlook.

  6. Re:And how is this any different... by microbox · · Score: 2, Interesting

    What we have here are the problems of capitalism combined with the problems of central planning in one system.

    Yay!, Someone who actually understands something about the ACA. Don't forget that insurance companies have to actually spend most of their money on medical treatment, or give their customers a rebate. Hopefully that will bend the cost-curve. (Debatable if that has already happened.) The rest of the world has a much cheaper system, and adding government isn't always the solution, but the USA seems to suffer from an incompetent piece-meal approach, and _could_ do with some clarity. Personally I think most of the regulations should be gutted, but this should be done incrementally to minimise the impact and mitigate mistakes. (Many regulations are extremely important.) This would require co-operation between the GOP and the Dems, and that is a little too much to hope from the party of victimhood.

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  7. You're mistake... by rsilvergun · · Score: 3, Interesting

    is assuming the politicians are the ruling class. Make no mistake, the ultra-rich are the rulers. The folks in the House/Senate are, like you said, water carriers. But the actual, practical effect is that the Koch bros. and their ilk call the shots. So from a practical standpoint we have a Kleptocracy.

    The middle class are still losing. We all are. I've always hated this logic: Things are continuously getting worse, but since they could get even worser it's all OK. It doesn't change the fact that the middle class is going away...

    Also, the point of the upper class Kleptocracy is to take everything. If they have everything ,it doesn't really matter what happens. This is why the economy keeps getting worse for Labor but the stock market keeps hitting record highs.

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  8. Re:News For Nerds by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Koch Industries made an official statement that they never donated "either directly or indirectly".

    That does not appear to square with the facts.

    What facts? Are you claiming to have evidence that Koch Industries' statement isn't true? The author of TFA didn't seem to have any. Other than insinuation and conjecture, and describing organizations as "Koch-linked" (whatever that means), there is nothing in the article. It doesn't even make sense. Political donations are legal, and the Kochs are open about their political views, so why would they hide their involvement even it they were involved?

  9. Re: News For Nerds by sternlight · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It would be amusing if not tragic that Unions decry others' political contributions and want to make them illegal while committing vast treasure to the same arena, often against the wishes of many members forced to contribute via dues and assessments.

  10. Re:Your hypocricy is astonishing. by Runaway1956 · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Speaking of ethics - what makes it acceptable for the left to stand on the graves of the victims, politicizing their deaths? You people just can't WAIT for the next mass shooting, so that you can dance on the bodies, proclaiming "I told you so!".

    Meanwhile - Chicago has the highest death toll by handguns in the WORLD. Imagine that. You won't address those statistics, will you? The strictest gun regulations in the world lead to the highest death toll. Which death toll is higher - that of Chicago, or that of Iraq?

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