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MIT Wristband Is a Personal Climatizer

rcastro0 writes "What looks like a CPU's heat sink worn around the wrist apparently may be able to make you feel cool even while it is hot — or warm while it is cold. As Wired reports, this termoelectric device explores human physiology and how we perceive temperature to fool our body and make us comfortable. The device is called Wristify, and Mashable has a video."

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  1. Well, maybe not wrist... by Professr3 · · Score: 2

    I did this at college with a peltier cooler, a backpack full of batteries, and a GPU water-cooling kit :\ It ain't rocket science, and Atlanta heat is a powerful motivator.

    1. Re:Well, maybe not wrist... by DavidClarkeHR · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I did this at college with a peltier cooler, a backpack full of batteries, and a GPU water-cooling kit :\ It ain't rocket science, and Atlanta heat is a powerful motivator.

      You did something different that had a similar effect.

      Having the same results is not the same as doing the same thing.

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    2. Re:Well, maybe not wrist... by Professr3 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Well, that depends on what you count as "something different" :\ They applied a bare peltier cooler to someone's wrist. I applied a water-cooled copper block to my forearm. The only difference I see is that my peltier cooler was already portable, had a heatsink fan, and transferred its thermal differential to my forearm via liquid coolant - but if you want to get technical, yes, I did something different

      My point is, it's great that people are working on commercializing this, but it's not automatically a Big Brand New Development just because MIT strapped a 12V square to an old watch band and hooked it up to some temperature sensors.

    3. Re:Well, maybe not wrist... by guanxi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it's not automatically a Big Brand New Development just because MIT strapped a 12V square to an old watch band and hooked it up to some temperature sensors.

      Sometimes it does seem like Slashdot simply publishes the MIT newsfeed, without the slightest skepticism.

    4. Re:Well, maybe not wrist... by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

      You should have tried water cooling. A wet towel around the neck doesn't need batteries...

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    5. Re:Well, maybe not wrist... by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      it's not automatically a Big Brand New Development just because MIT strapped a 12V square to an old watch band and hooked it up to some temperature sensors.

      Sometimes it does seem like Slashdot simply publishes the MIT newsfeed, without the slightest skepticism.

      Mostimes it does seem like Slashdot simply publishes ANY newsfeed, without the slightest skepticism.

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  2. Body hacking by rwa2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    DARPA was working on something similar to this. It was a special glove that actively drew blood to the surface of the skin on your hand and cooled it:
    http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.03/bemore.html
    Looks like someone managed to commercialize it: http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=4495810

    Anyway, your hands and toes are already your body's natural radiators, since they have a relatively high surface-area to volume ratio. Your body can already regulate its temperature naturally by pumping more blood into the capillaries near the surface of the skin when it needs to cool off more. As it mentions in the Wired article, simply applying a cold heat sink won't really work, since your body tends to draw blood circulation away from contact with cold surfaces, so you'd also need the pump or something to force the blood circulation back towards the heat sink.

    When I do martial arts, I find I get the best cooling by simply swinging my hands back and forth. That gives me forced convection through my fingers, combined with enhanced evaporative cooling of my sweaty palms, while the extra centripetal acceleration draws blood out closer to my fingertips.

    There's another similar body hack for those of us with trouble regulating your temperature while sleeping and tend to overheat and start sweating under your blankets: simply sleep with your hands and/or feet sticking out from under the blanket. This will let your body better regulate its core temperature using its natural mechanisms of pumping more blood closer to the skin for more cooling, or drawing blood away from the skin to retain heat and maintain proper core temperature. Hey, it's this "one simple weird trick" for better sleep, on the internet... who would have thunk it?

    1. Re:Body hacking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I remember this case where a girl had gone through the ice. After she was rescued they cycled her blood through a warmer. It basically saved her life. DARPA might have been working on that.

    2. Re:Body hacking by flyingfsck · · Score: 2

      A wet towel around the neck works better. A wet T-shirt also works, but if it is a hot girl then it tends to get the guys all steamed up...

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    3. Re:Body hacking by jamesh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Another way to cool off in hot weather is to wet your arms down with cold water but not dry them off. The water will evaporate, drawing heat out of your arms in some natural air conditioning.

      At night before we had any form of cooling i'd put our top sheet in the washing machine on rinse and then spin it enough so it wouldn't drip. With the ceiling fan on fairly low it generated enough evaporative cooling that we could get a good nights sleep. Of course if it was hot and humid we just ended up feeling yuck, but most of the heat here is fairly dry.

    4. Re:Body hacking by Captain+Segfault · · Score: 2

      while the extra centripetal acceleration draws blood out closer to my fingertips.

      I think you mean "centrifugal force". Note that a centripetal acceleration/force would be pulling your blood back inwards from your fingertips; you're looking for the equal and opposite force that is pulling the blood away.

      Physics teachers who say that there is no such thing as centrifugal force are lying; it is every bit as real as gravity. It is a white lie, with the point of avoiding accelerating non-inertial reference frames. Such physics classes will show that centrifugal force is entirely explained by inertia in a reference frame undergoing centripetal acceleration. That's great.

      Here's the problem: those same classes will regularly describe gravity as a force. The thing is, once you study general relativity you realize that gravity (and in particular the 9.8 m/s^2 acceleration you feel downward) has exactly the same explanation; space-time is curved by the mass of the Earth such that the surface of the Earth needs to accelerate upwards at 9.8 m/s^2 in order to remain "in place".

      In other words, centrifugal force is entirely as real as gravity. If it is centrifugal force that makes your blood move out, don't be afraid to say it.

  3. Re:Dupe by Dan+East · · Score: 2

    Um, that links right back here, and now I'm caught in an infinite loop until a family member comes along and breaks me. Thanks.

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  4. A competing approach by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The Hittites developed a somewhat different technology for personal climactic control known as the "sweater" c. 1700 BCE. It was independently invented by the Mayans; however, neither civilization apparently prepared source code for distribution under terms that today's FSF would find acceptable.

  5. Re:Dupe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. "device explores human physiology" by Anubis+IV · · Score: 3, Informative

    And this summary explores human tolerance for dupes of stories that have already been posted.

    1. Re:"device explores human physiology" by ruir · · Score: 2

      This isnt a story, this is an advertisement. Ban the guys that are modding this up.

  7. Fooling body sensory and temp regulation system? by macraig · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whatever could go wrong with that?

  8. Re:Fooling body sensory and temp regulation system by roc97007 · · Score: 2

    Yes. I was thinking the same thing.

    Kinda reminds me of drinking brandy to feel warmer.

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  9. Re:Fooling body sensory and temp regulation system by sjames · · Score: 2

    The trick to using alcohol to feel warmer is that you should only do it when you are back out of the cold or in some cases soon will be.

    It can be a fine method to stave off frostbite when you are quite certain you will be in the warm soon. It can also be useful if you are quite certain your exposure will be brief.

    The classic drinking out in the snow is very definitely a bad idea.

    In the case of this device, it isn't meant to make a 120 degree hike in the desert feel like a spring day, it's to make a 78 degree home feel like it's 72.

  10. Termoelectrics by Dthief · · Score: 4, Funny

    electronic crap that only works for one semester

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  11. I live in Vietnam... by wisebabo · · Score: 3, Informative

    And this would be such a great thing for my level of comfort, I'd love to try it.

    There's only one thing, I'd have to be sure it isn't fooling (or not too much) the body's thermo-regulation system. I'd hate to die of heat stroke because my brain thought my core temperature was 98.6F when actually it was 106F.

    Anyway perhaps this is actually (very efficiently!) lowering or raising the core body temperature. I understand that someone discovered that the past (current?) method of cooling off NFL football players, dunking their heads in ice cold water, was counterproductive. It causes the capillaries in the face/head to constrict REDUCING heat transfer when you want to increase it. Thus someone came up with a box that applied a partial vacuum to the hands which (combined with some cold water) efficiently reduced their temperature. Hopefully this device works using this principle (and perhaps the DARPA gloves do the same).

    Anyone know if this is a perceived or actual control of body temperature?

  12. Re:Fooling body sensory and temp regulation system by jamesh · · Score: 2

    Whatever could go wrong with that?

    I wondered about that. Is your level of thermal comfort directly related to the difference between your body temp and your desired body temp. If you are sweating to keep cool and feeling hot and yuck, will making you feel nice by cooling your wrist turn down/off your sweating, resulting in dangerous overheating, or will it just make you feel better but keep the sweat pouring out? I'm sure TFA has the details but I didn't read it when it originally appeared on slashdot so i'm sure not reading the dupe.

  13. Re:Dupe by Desler · · Score: 4, Funny

    No, this one is a termoelectric bracelet. It's different.