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Google Attacks Microsoft Again: Android 4.4 Ships With Quickoffice

An anonymous reader writes "With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google's biggest blow to Microsoft isn't against Windows Phone. It's against Microsoft Office. You see, KitKat ships with Quickoffice, letting you edit Microsoft Office documents, spreadsheets, and presentations on the go, without paying a dime, straight out of the box. This tidbit was largely lost in the news yesterday, given the large number of improvements and new features that KitKat offers. Yet it's a very big deal: every Android user that upgrades to KitKat will get Google's Quickoffice, and every new Android device (starting with the Nexus 5) that ships with KitKat or higher will also get Quickoffice."

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  1. But I don't want it. by richy+freeway · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Is this optional or am I required to have it taking up space on my Nexus 4 regardless?

    1. Re:But I don't want it. by siddesu · · Score: 2

      It was better when it wasn't Google's -- it worked offline and without the need for a G+ account. I'm glad they didn't buy the better office package for Android, Office Suite Pro.

    2. Re:But I don't want it. by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      The way Android is structured, some apps are in a read-write filesystem and can be uninstalled, some are in 'ROM' (a read-only filesystem in the flash that is only modified when you do a firmware update) and so can't be uninstalled. As of Android 4, they can be hidden from the UI, but they're still there (and there have been instances where 'disabled' apps still had exploitable vulnerabilities).

      I'd love to be able to buy an Android tablet with an absolute minimum of things in the ROM image and everything else installed in an upgradeable form.

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    3. Re:But I don't want it. by feranick · · Score: 2

      That is the stock quickoffice viewer. What we are talking about here is the editor, which is a separate app. It's free in the play store for any android 2.2+:

      https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quickoffice.android&hl=en

  2. Is Google upgrading Quickoffice at all? by hsmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Since they acquired them it seems they have dumped no money into improvements. While it is an office editing App, it really needs some work to be "great." Granted, it is much more functional than Microsofts Office 365 backed App.

    1. Re:Is Google upgrading Quickoffice at all? by mrchaotica · · Score: 2

      It allegedly has some sort of integration with Google Drive (assuming that counts as an "improvement").

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  3. Google Uses Quick Office... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's NOT super effective.

    Let's get real. An office-ish app on a smart phone is NOT a challenge to a full blown desktop office suite. To suggest that it is indicates an absolute lack of understanding of the user base and use cases for office suites.

    1. Re:Google Uses Quick Office... by nurb432 · · Score: 2

      Not a challenge, but a requirement to be competitive.

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    2. Re:Google Uses Quick Office... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So plug that mini-HDMI into your TV and get a Bluetooth keyboard. Is that challenge enough for you?

    3. Re:Google Uses Quick Office... by cjjjer · · Score: 3, Funny

      Who in the fuck wants to carry a TV and a keyboard around with them?

    4. Re:Google Uses Quick Office... by recoiledsnake · · Score: 2

      So where is the "attack" in the headline coming from, then? If anything Google just made Office on laptops and desktops more attractive by shipping a viewer for them by default on Android.

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  4. War between Google and Microsoft getting hotter. by boorack · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In other news patent cartel created by Microsoft and Apple attacks Google and others. Somewhat sad to see when one side of this battle uses product superiority and the other one resorts to lawyers and patent trolls. It just underscores roteness and corrupion of US corporate economy.

  5. Documents shared with Google? by mbone · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is processing for Quickoffice done off-phone? Or, to put it another way, does Quickoffice share all of your work with Google?

    1. Re:Documents shared with Google? by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Informative

      Quickoffice was a document-editing program way back in the PalmOS days, and it was the only major player to make a WebOS version.

      Quickoffice does not require Google Docs to work. Although it does have some features which are counter-intuitive and don't work depending on the view you're in.

    2. Re:Documents shared with Google? by mbone · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you are not paying for it, you are not the customer.

  6. OK with me... by unique_parrot · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...these medialess new microsoft office versions, where you have to make an account just to download the installer is a pita.

    And only being able to upgrade to win 8.1 with the market, not by windows update??? can't download the service pack to a stick??

    And the switch to monthly subscription for office is a very bad thing, i hope people realize this aswell!

    i hope ms get's a salted bill for all this.

    1. Re: OK with me... by unique_parrot · · Score: 2

      yeah, there is a simple but not trivial version for the installation of windows 8.1 (if you want to reinstall from version 8) aswell:
      Install 8.1 from chip.de instruction [englich translation]
      But this definitly not customer friendly.

    2. Re:OK with me... by unique_parrot · · Score: 2

      i'm sorry but english is not my first language.

    3. Re:OK with me... by mspohr · · Score: 2

      Considering that you can get all of this for free from multiple sources for multiple platforms, the $99/year looks like a ripoff.
      Some years ago Bill Gates, in a moment of wishful thinking, said that hardware was trending towards free while software was where the real money could be made.
      At the time I didn't believe it and today we have a situation where most software is free (and hardware is cheap). This kind of undercuts Microsoft's business model.
      I can't remember the last time I bought any software. Everything I use is free (and most open source).

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  7. I smell antitrust lawsuits by GauteL · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In many markets Google has a near monopoly position. Their global smart phone market share is around 80% and in some markets it's even higher. Bundling an office suite in order to leverage their dominant operating system is unlikely to sit well with regulators.

    1. Re:I smell antitrust lawsuits by bjwest · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wouldn't that only apply if MS made an Android office app, and Google was preventing the user from installing it?

      I don't see how it could be considered antitrust to create something that competes with nothing.

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    2. Re:I smell antitrust lawsuits by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative

      Um. No it was not. MS did not get in trouble merely by bundling IE with Windows. They got in trouble for threatening partners and OEMs not to do business with competitors like Netscape and Java. For example, OEMs could lose licensing rights to Windows if they installed Netscape. MS hinted to Intel that they would give preferences to AMD in the next version of Windows if Intel released an optimized JVM for Java.

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  8. Re:Eh by Desler · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not. This is simply click bait.

  9. Re:Eh by dwater · · Score: 2

    It's been considered a fairly useful capability since it was on Symbian...how long ago was it on that platform?? Too long ago to remember. This is nothing new apart from it's Google and Android, and perhaps the pervasiveness of the platform.

    Ah, I see it was 2005 and Google discontinued it for Symbian :

    http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/flow/item/18412_Quickoffice_officially_discont.php

    I find this sentence in Wikipedia interesting/disappointing :

    "The programs are compatible with Microsoft Office file format, but not the OpenDocument standard."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quickoffice

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  10. quickoffice is free and available to any Android by feranick · · Score: 4, Informative

    The version that allows for editing MS docs has been recently released in the play store for any android user. Kitkat only has it installed by default, but otherwise it's one install away.

  11. Apple not MS by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    This is more of an attack against Apple giving away the iWork package for free. MS is barely a blip on the radar.

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  12. quickoffice by l3v1 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Quickoffice? How is ths news? Not long back they made it free, and we even got free extra Google Drive space for downloading and installing it. And it doesn't need to be KitKat, it works with earlier versions as well.

    Again, how is this news?

    Right.

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    1. Re:quickoffice by mewsenews · · Score: 2

      I knew there would be at least one comment downplaying this story.

      This is a tiny move on Google's part with huge ramifications.

      Android has been a huge success, I read that it has something like 80% of the market share of mobile devices, but that statistic was probably made up.

      When Grandma opens an email on her tablet thing that her IT grandson told her to get so that he could stop supporting her Windows computer, she's going to be opening the word attachment using Google software - and then possibly editing it and sending it back - using Google software.

      Microsoft gets nothing, they are removed from the loop.

      The default office suite on Android could be as important as the default web browser on Windows - and we know what a ruckus that caused.

  13. and forcing OEMs, "IE cannot open Netscape.com" by raymorris · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Bundling it where it can't be removed, preventing OEMs from installing other browsers, a patch to prevent downloading Netscape ...

  14. Ironically by tuppe666 · · Score: 2

    In many markets Google has a near monopoly position. Their global smart phone market share is around 80% and in some markets it's even higher. Bundling an office suite in order to leverage their dominant operating system is unlikely to sit well with regulators.

    I sure you were against the inclusion of Microsoft Office crapware with every version of its OS. I personally welcome the EU including a start screen on Desktops. Ignoring that Apple has started to bundle iwork...and Microsoft has started including crippled office with its tablets.. neither of these is available for Android. The reality is though Microsoft Office is the monopoly on Microsofts formats something they secured through buying votes in ISO. This will help stop the current compatibility tax myth.

  15. Google encroaching on MS is very un-ideal by sinij · · Score: 2

    As much as I dislike MS, having Google that is in business of collecting and aggregating information about us ALSO be default office tools provider is even worse.

    How long would it take to have mandatory Google+ integration to use it? Thanks, but no thanks.

  16. Actually, that's an OEM problem. by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    yeah, great, another android fuck-up if you're tablet or phone is pre-loaded with it, you can't update to a newer version unless the manufacturer releases a newer version.. therefore i'm stuck to a very old version of quickoffice on my xoom...

    That's not an Android fuck-up. That's the OEM's problem, and it has nothing to do with Android. I chose Nexus devices (4 and 7) to avoid this, as these are the devices Android was written for. For any non-Nexus device, you depend on the OEM for certain things that may or may not occur. As a Slashdot person, surely you know this, right?

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    1. Re:Actually, that's an OEM problem. by SuperDre · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes it's an android fuckup, for letting OEM's being able to do it in the first place.. the motorolla xoom was the honeycomb developer device, so it was the 'nexus' device in that time, and that's the one that I have and is having the problem..

    2. Re:Actually, that's an OEM problem. by msobkow · · Score: 2

      You mean like HP, Dell, and Lenovo are required to force you to run Windows Update on your box?

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    3. Re:Actually, that's an OEM problem. by Nick · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yes it's an android fuckup, for letting OEM's being able to do it in the first place.. the motorolla xoom was the honeycomb developer device, so it was the 'nexus' device in that time, and that's the one that I have and is having the problem..

      By your logic it would be a Google fuckup for letting OEMs have full control of what they do with Android which has no technical bearing on merits of Android in itself. BTW, big props to Google for going in the other direction of Apple by letting OEMs do this - I seem to remember this worked out pretty well for MSFT.

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    4. Re:Actually, that's an OEM problem. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you are a Open Handset Alliance, you are not allowed to fork Android. Expulsion awaits if you do so. If you are not member of Open Handset Alliance, you are not allowed to use the Android trademark and include the app store (and other things) on your phone that runs the Android fork.

      See the ugly truth at http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/10/googles-iron-grip-on-android-controlling-open-source-by-any-means-necessary/
      Open source means nothing to Google.

    5. Re:Actually, that's an OEM problem. by molnarcs · · Score: 2

      yeah, great, another android fuck-up if you're tablet or phone is pre-loaded with it, you can't update to a newer version unless the manufacturer releases a newer version.. therefore i'm stuck to a very old version of quickoffice on my xoom...

      That's not an Android fuck-up. That's the OEM's problem, and it has nothing to do with Android. I chose Nexus devices (4 and 7) to avoid this, as these are the devices Android was written for. For any non-Nexus device, you depend on the OEM for certain things that may or may not occur. As a Slashdot person, surely you know this, right?

      I agree completely, but different users have different priorities. My problem with the Nexus is the lack of choice. I'd rather Google partnered up with different companies to release different models that suit different needs. For example, I don't need a large phone. I use the 4 inch Nexus 2 (first Samsung Nexus after HTC N1) now. I'm a photographer, and I'd love a Nexus with a good camera. I don't carry my d800 and lenses everywhere ;) I'd pay more for it. How much extra a decent camera module & lens would cost? $50? $100 - I'd pay that much more for the Nexsus if it came with decent photo capabilities. Frankly, the cameras in Nexus 3s, 4s and now 5s are not really convincing for me to upgrade. Thus I'm eyeing alternatives, even though I hate the thought of running Android with OEM fluff and worse, not getting the latest upgrades :(

  17. Re:quickoffice is free and available to any Androi by CronoCloud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can still install the newer version on Google Play if your tablet came installed with the old QuickOffice HD, I just did it on a Dell Streak 7.

  18. Re:quickoffice is free and available to any Androi by X0563511 · · Score: 2

    I don't have a single device that has anything other than a nightly build of Cyanogenmod. I don't have unpopular devices, either.

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  19. Re:War between Google and Microsoft getting hotter by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    Google declined joining a patent troll shell company that is now suing their OEM partners? How terrible of them.

  20. Re:quickoffice is free and available to any Androi by norite · · Score: 3

    That's why you root your android device; in fact it's the first thing you do to it - install remove anything you want...

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  21. I, for one, am not happy with the 'update' by Voyager529 · · Score: 3, Informative

    I needed to view a Word document in a hurry. I got a copy of QuickOffice from Amazon when it was a free app-of-the-day last year, but opted to try Google's more recent flavor. Google insisted I logged in, and refused to do anything if I just wanted to use a Word document on my SD card. There was NO reason for this. I, for one, disapprove of this change, regardless of any of the others.

  22. Re:quickoffice is free and available to any Androi by Sun · · Score: 4, Informative

    Your OEM probably changed the signature on the APK they pre-installed.

    You can upgrade a pre-installed APK from Google Play. This is not a problem. Unless, that is, the package name for the new and old APKs is the same, but the signing certificate is not. This is not a bad thing, except when %!@#(*# OEMs re-sign APKs they pre-install.

    I made a living off localizing android systems for the local market, and I always had a bit of a hard time explaining to the clients why I couldn't localize none-core apps (which include the Google Play itself, for which the Hebrew translation seems to have been done by someone quite illiterate).

    Shachar

  23. Re: War between Google and Microsoft getting hotte by JayRott · · Score: 4, Informative

    fosspatents is run by a Microsoft shill. I forgot his name but he admitted to being a shill after he was caught with his pants down

    Florian Müller would be the name of the particular douche-nozzle in question.