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Amazon Gets Blow-Back Over Plan To Sell Kindles At Small Bookshops

Rambo Tribble writes "No sooner had Amazon revealed their plan to offer independent book shops the Kindle for re-sale, along with a kick-back on e-book purchases, than the fur began to fly. It appears the shops view the plan as Amazon-assisted suicide. Given the apparent terms of the deal, it looks like they may have a point. Amazon may well have done themselves more harm than good with this ploy. One storeowner wrote, 'Hmmm, let's see. We sell Kindles for essentially no profit, the new Kindle customer is in our store where they can browse and discover books, the new Kindle customer can then check the price on Amazon and order the e-book. We make a little on their e-book purchases, but then lose them as a customer completely after two years. Doesn't sound like such a great partnership to me.'"

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  1. No duh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Big Warehouse Book stores kill the independent book stores. Amazon killed the Big Book stores. But the silver lining is that the death of the Big Warehouse Book stores gave new life to the independents. So now Amazon tries to kill the independents, but they are not morons.

    The independents were saved by Amazon, but that doesn't mean they are stupid enough to let Amazon kill them next.

  2. How is this worse? by JesseMcDonald · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How is this any worse for the small bookstores than their customers buying a Kindle from some other retailer, or direct from amazon.com? They'd still be browsing in the store, checking online prices, buying the e-books, and eventually ceasing to be a customer. The bookstore would simply have deprived itself of an opportunity to be the one selling the Kindles and getting a cut of e-book revenues in the meantime.

    Do these bookstores really think that refusing to sell the devices themselves will slow adoption?

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    1. Re:How is this worse? by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'm kind of interested in the bookstores I know of that are not going under because of Amazon. At least here in Chicago, the independent booksellers I frequent appear to be doing very well, especially now that the Borders and B&N and other chain bookstores have all but disappeared.

      I don't see that they've changed their business model much with the rise of e-books, yet they are still busy, filled with customers, and in once case, even expanding.

      If you treat customers right, I think there's still room for booksellers to succeed. Don't compete on price - compete on service.

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    2. Re:How is this worse? by Nemyst · · Score: 4, Interesting

      This. The greatest example, I find, is with recommendations: try as they might, Amazon's recommendations are still very often inaccurate, backwards-looking (I already bought this thing, I don't want a hundred suggestions of other things exactly like it!) and very sensitive to trends. Your local bookstore, however, might have someone who knows just what you usually like and comes up with a few new books every so often when you pass by. They know you personally, they know your preferences and they actually read the stuff they sell. It's a more personal and customized experience which a blank, faceless website just cannot match.

      Yes, it does mean bookstores need to do more work to encourage and nurture a certain feel of community, actually talking with customers and engaging with them, but... That's a good thing. We need more of that and fewer standardized, giant corporation-driven stores.

  3. I've seen this movie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Meg Ryan falls in love with Jeff Bezos at the end.

  4. Re:And it isn't like they have to do it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    You WILL have to deal with their competition.

    Not, apparently, in France: http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/10/27/1219244/france-moves-to-protect-independent-booksellers-from-amazon

  5. Amazon Bookstore by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The independent books that I know have a small edges going for them.

    There is new market for “shopping / entertainment“. You go to the store to be entertained and you pay via a purchase. Kind of like renting office space at the coffee shop for the price of a cup of coffee. Most of these shops tend to be narrowly focused, have a deep catalog of hard to fine / out of print stuff (which is sold via Amazon), have lots of events (singings, clubs, etc.) and sell a lot of stuff other than books.

    Oddly the one that I am thinking about was the Amazon Bookstore specializing in woman and lesbian literature. There was a bit of a tussle between them and Amazon.com over the name and the more or less won that fight.

  6. Re:Soon, no more bookstores. by Rinikusu · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The big coffee-table picture books will still be around (looking at some of the beautiful photography in those books is lost on an 8.9" kindle screen). I also think technical books will remain viable in print (I've got a handful of dev-related books on my kindle, and I've invariably bought the printed versions where available). I also still insist on buy DVD/BluRays, mainly because I don't like the Netflix availability (although I do use it), but also seem to be in the mood to watch movies when my internet connection goes down.

    The market is dwindling, I grant you, but there are niches where I think physical books will remain relevant. Maybe we'll see bookstores dwindle in size to become like a magazine stand or similar.

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  7. Re:Who browses at a bookstore and then buys via Am by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But what does browsing for the book on the shelves get you over searching Amazon.com?

    Well, um... you, uh, get the see the book???

    Seriously. I buy almost all non-fiction books, and 2-3 minutes leafing through the book, looking up a few things in the index, and reading a couple specific passages on topics I'm looking for will immediately tell me: (1) does the book contain the information I need and care about? (2) does the author have a freakin' clue what he/she is talking about? (3) are these things valuable enough to justify the cost?

    I can spend time skimming dozens of reviews on Amazon and still have no clue about the answers to those questions. Sure, for some books on Amazon I can get a limited preview or limited search capability, but that's generally not enough to really let me check what I need to.

    I own a couple thousand physical books. I can only think of ONE physical book that I purchased in an actual store that I regret buying, and I was in a hurry and just picked up some Barnes & Noble special for $1.99 or something. On the other hand, I must have at least 20 or more books I purchased online that turned out to be much less useful than I imagined. I just can't tell adequately from online descriptions. And returning them is often too much of a pain to bother.

    On a related note, there's also the seredipitous encounter with interesting books on a physical shelf. While Amazon may be good at telling me what other people tend to buy who buy the books I'm already searching for, it's very unlikely to tell me about the really cool books out there that people like me may not always know about. Library shelves, on the other hand, are great for containing those hidden treasures, sitting there right next to a book I know on a similar topic. Actual physical bookstores can be good about that as well, though only if they have the kind of specialized non-fiction I like to browse for (and very few do anymore).

    I'm very likely to walk out of a physical bookstore with some book I found and thought to be really interesting, and I almost never regret those purchases. Online, I only tend to buy books I already have heard about and which already are supposed to be "good," because I often can't adequately evaluate them otherwise.

    Used bookstores are even more critical, because they carry all sorts of out-of-print stuff that's even more difficult to sort through on Amazon (if it's there at all).

    You still get the same 'about the author' and plot taglines on the back...

    I don't give a crap about the author bio or what some random other people say about how this is the "coolest book ever." I suppose if that's the way you evaluate the books you want to buy, I guess there's no benefit to a physical bookstore. I, personally, prefer to actually examine the merchandise... like the people you mention who might actually like to look at the TV or listen to the stereo before purchasing.