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Viruses Boost Performance of Lithium-Air Battery Used In Electric Cars

rtoz writes "MIT researchers have found that adding genetically modified viruses to the production of nanowires will boost the performance of lithium-air battery used in electric cars. The key to their work was to increase the surface area of the wire, thus increasing the area where electrochemical activity takes place during charging or discharging of the battery (abstract). The increase in surface area produced by their method can provide a big advantage in lithium-air batteries' rate of charging and discharging. Unlike conventional fabrication methods, which involve energy-intensive high temperatures and hazardous chemicals, this process can be carried out at room temperature using a water-based process."

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  1. Viral Batteries by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2, Funny

    That would be sick!

    1. Re:Viral Batteries by bob_super · · Score: 2

      What's the performance of that Tesla when you have McAfee running on the battery?

    2. Re:Viral Batteries by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      Ha. Might also need to take its temperature.....might be 'burning up' with fever.

  2. This would be a big thing by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 2

    Heh, big thing when it's a virus. I'm hilarious. OK but lithium-air batteries that don't explode in the rain would be quite something. Not only would they make electric cars more viable, but it might even make things like electric planes much more practical and long-ranged. Big ifs, though. It's hard to beat kerosene and turbines for raw power, efficiency and range.

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    1. Re:This would be a big thing by 50000BTU_barbecue · · Score: 2

      Yes, the charging of LITHIUM-AIR batteries, which would have a much higher capacity by weight. See, there are NO such batteries right now. Yup, reading sure is fun.

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    2. Re:This would be a big thing by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2

      OK but lithium-air batteries that don't explode in the rain would be quite something.

      Now they won't explode in the rain, they'll merely sneeze...

  3. What could possibly go wrong... by schwep · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fred: Dude, where's your car?
    Sam: I don't know - I parked it hear like 2 hours ago.
    Fred: Did you patch against the latest virus they found?
    Sam: What?
    Fred: Yeah, it caused the batteries to eat all the metal parts.
    Sam: Crap.
    Fred: Now if only you could download a copy of the car...

    1. Re:What could possibly go wrong... by dgatwood · · Score: 4, Funny

      You wouldn't download a car. You wouldn't download a handbag. ...

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    2. Re:What could possibly go wrong... by vux984 · · Score: 2
  4. Other prior research by Forever+Wondering · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Researchers at the University of Maryland have been using the tobacco mosaic virus for similar purposes: http://phys.org/news/2010-12-virally-nano-electrodes-boost-energy-capacity.html

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  5. But when will we see it? by wjcofkc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Granted, Lithium ion batteries have seen a number of enhancements over the years, but new super-ultra battery tech is starting to look like fusion - always around the corner. A battery that is all the way around a major step forward from what we have now could change the world overnight. But every time I read about the next big thing in batteries, I just sigh... I realize that continued articles means continued research and development is going - but I am ready for my super batteries now. I know I can't hurry science along, but I am eagerly and impatiently waiting for the day I wake up to the commercial realization of the mythical wonder-battery.

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    1. Re:But when will we see it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Instead what you've gotten is annual 10-15% capacity/density improvements along with similar cost reductions. If that pace can continue for another decade or two, you'll have your super batteries, without ever getting that huge leap forward.

  6. So tell me why ... by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

    Unlike conventional fabrication methods, which involve energy-intensive high temperatures and hazardous chemicals, this process can be carried out at room temperature using a water-based process."

    Pray tell, why these hazardous biota are better than hazardous chemicals. What can go wrong?

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    1. Re:So tell me why ... by cusco · · Score: 2

      Some of the other groups are using tobacco mosaic virus, it's likely that Firethorn confused the projects.

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  7. MIT PR is becoming embarassing by Animats · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MIT's PR operation is becoming embarrassing. At least once every two months, there's some announcement about "nano" something that's going to change the world. Then we never hear about it again. You look at the details, and it turns out somebody did something at lab scale which might possibly someday be useful, if there weren't other ways to do the same thing already.

    1. Re:MIT PR is becoming embarassing by kermidge · · Score: 2

      True that, but by the same token we at least know that some people are doing interesting, nifty, and potentially useful stuff, along with just good science and engineering - asking and trying to answer questions and advancing knowledge in the process.

  8. Re:Lithium and water? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The viruses were used to make manganese oxide (MnO) nanowires, which acted as the cathode material. The catalysts, electrolyte, and lithium comes in later.

  9. Re:Practical use?? by zippthorne · · Score: 2

    I wonder if you could use a System on a Chip (SoC) to manage your state of charge....

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  10. Welcome to the FUTURE! by dbIII · · Score: 2

    Show me a rechargeable battery I can buy now that will withstand thousands of cycles

    My phone has one. Hey 1970 dude, if you can wait until 2010 you will be able to get the same thing in the exciting world of tomorrow!

  11. Re:Practical use?? by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Informative

    I wonder why they don't put the minimum threshold higher on batteries. I've heard that completely discharging lithium batteries is really bad for them. But then why not just build in some extra capacity into the battery, and have it refuse to run once it reaches 20%.

    That's actually what modern hybrid and EV battery management systems do. They also stop charging at about 80% of max capacity, because it's the top and bottom 20% of charge states where the maximum wear is. So a 100 kwh 1k charge cycle battery might be exactly identical to a 80 kwh 4k cycle battery.

    It's generally not done with consumer electronics because they only expect them to last 1-2 years and weight/cost are bigger concerns than longevity.

    It should be noted that when they talk about X numbers of 'charge cycles' it's from 0% to 100% even when it comes to applications where they really expect lots of partial charges - cell phones, EVs, and such. So if you charge it up 50%, then 20%, then 30%, that adds up to 1 cycle. Though if they're being honest they rate the expected cycles by the expected duty cycle - LiIon 'likes' partial charges, NiCad doesn't. Lead-Acid doesn't like being discharged, but tolerates being fully or even over charged the best out of the common chemistries.

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