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Norway's Army Battles Global Warming By Going Vegetarian
cold fjord writes "It looks like no more spam, spam, spam for Norway's warriors... at least on Mondays. The Daily Caller reports, 'Norway's military is taking drastic steps to ramp up its war against global warming. The Scandinavian country announced its soldiers would be put on a vegetarian diet once a week to reduce the military's carbon footprint. "Meatless Monday's" has already been introduced at one of Norway's main military bases and will soon be rolled out to others, including overseas bases. It is estimated that the new vegetarian diet will cut meat consumption by 150 tons per year. "It's a step to protect our climate," military spokesman Eystein Kvarving told AFP. "The idea is to serve food that's respectful of the environment." ... The United Nations says that livestock farming is responsible for 18 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions. Cutting meat consumption, environmentalists argue, would help stem global warming and improve the environment." — The Manchester Journal reports, "The meatless Monday campaign launched in 2003 as a global non-profit initiative in collaboration with Johns Hopkins University to promote personal and environmental health by reducing meat consumption.'"
You may want to try reading this year :)
You must have missed it but China recently made an announcement about not building any more coal fired power stations. That's a very major change and completely pulls the rug out from under your argument - so what may have been a good point in July just makes no sense at all now.
In China, people want to breathe and see across the street.
Most have realized that the American way doesn't apply to their density. Individually, they want it, but collectively they are a lot smarter.
It's gonna get worse for them before it gets better. But they already they kick ass on trains, wind and solar (when the sun can make it to the panels), and their government will do anything that promotes stability. If they keep having these smogs which cause unrest (because the rich have filters), they will look for solutions, and they will invest as much as it takes.
And we'll still be arguing whether 1% or 3% is worth debating.
Norway doesn't have any warriors. That was a long time ago in the age of blood and glory. Today Norway's army consists of young boys, bored out of there minds that can't wait to get back home, sit in the couch to play Call of Duty and enjoy the highest standard of living in the world.
Utter bullshit.
The fertility rate in Norway is below two, has been since 1970s and is likely to stay for the foreseeable future.
This has nothing to do with global warming. Its an excuse to change diet of people who can't object to something less natural than eating meat or fish.
I predict a revolt amongst the ranks
Tubby or not tubby. Fat is the question
Cows rarely ever fart. It's their belching that is the problem. I think most posters here have never been around cattle.
Yeah, but most of the soya is fed to animals. 70% of corn grown in the USA is fed to animals. For every kilo of meat you eat, 10 kilos of feedstock went into an animal.
So you could eat less meat, and devote more land to growing plants, which is the essence of carbon capture. And all those animal farts contribute to global warming as well (methane is a greenhouse gas).
Regardless of whether vegetarianism / veganism is better for animals or your health, they require less energy and produce less CO2.
You're outer category delusional.
The projected sea level rise is up to about a meter by the year 2100. Not in the form of a sudden tidal wave arriving next tuesday, but a few milimeters per decade.
Think of the world 100 years ago. Think how different agriculture was then, how different cities were. A century is a very long time on the scale of a human life and culture.
Let's adapt to a potentially global and humankind-annihiliating catastrophy once the methane under ice in Siberia starts to melt and gets released to the atmosphere. It's already bubbling out, you can see it with your eyes.
Earth will go on, some life possibly will also go on but humans are facing the business end of a shotgun at the moment.
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You're harming your cause with such extreme and patently ridiculous alarmism. Did you know that up to the start of the Pleistocene, there were no permanent ice caps on either pole? Was the earth in the Pliocene an uninhabitable wasteland? We are living in the Holocene interglacial stage of an ice age today. Today's climate isn't the norm, it isn't the only climate in which life is possible. In fact, every species alive today, except for perhaps a handful of human domesticated crops, already existed during the last ice age, and lived through the transition. Before you bring up the standard response about the rate of climate change being completely unique in the history of the earth, this too is false. The transition from the last glacial to the Holocene interglacial was just as sudden. Vast subarctic tundras, built up over a period of 100,000 years (the duration of the last glaciation) thawed and became exposed (in fact, some of it is still frozen deep under the surface in central Europe!).
The environment is facing a number of terrible human induced crises - primarily habitat loss, over-fishing, and pollution. Yes, many species will disappear by the end of the century, even if the climate stops changing today, even if the climate goes back to the way it was before the industrial revolution. If you live long enough, you will find that a slight increase in temperature will have been a minor influence compared to these things.
The projected sea level rise is up to about a meter by the year 2100. Not in the form of a sudden tidal wave arriving next tuesday, but a few milimeters per decade.
1m = 1000mm. Assuming that by "a few" you mean 5mm per decade that's only 50mm/century.
To get a 1m rise we are looking at 100mm/decade, or 10mm/year. It doesn't sound like a lot but the cost of dealing with it is going to be huge.
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I don't think the proof is in the waist lines, considering protein doesn't have that many calories, and even when you include fatty cuts of meat that's not that many calories. Protein and fat satisfy your appetite better than carbs too. If you pay attention, you'll notice that people with large waist lines eat lots of empty carbs and "low fat" shit.
which is totally what she said
No, Christianity does NOT have similar rules for non-Christians. Some who have claimed to follow Christianity may have, but they have to make it up. (creative excuses for discrimination seems all too common for most humans through history.)
Ghettos started as segregation of Jews, in places they were not treated well, in other gettos they were treated VERY well, encouraged to settle, and left alone to practice Judaism without restraint.
I just came back from Sarajevo, in a Muslim country, and didn't see any of that stuff. Are you sure you're talking about Islam and not just certain countries where religious leaders are crazy as shithouse rats and would use any religious system to do the same ugly stuff?
I think Sharia Law is just an excuse for assholes to be bigger assholes.
You are welcome on my lawn.