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European Health Levels Suddenly Collapsed After 2003 and Nobody Is Sure Why

KentuckyFC writes "Europeans are living longer. But since 2003, they've suddenly enjoyed fewer years of healthy life. For example, in Italy between 1995 and 2003, life expectancy increased from 75 to 80.1 for men and from 81.8 to 85.3 for women. At the same time, the number of years of healthy life increased from 66.7 to 70.9 for men and from 70 to 74.4 for women. But since 2003, while life expectancy has increased further, the number of years of healthy living has plummeted to about 62 for both sexes. More worrying still is that demographers say the same trend has been repeated right across Europe. Only the UK, Denmark and the Netherlands appear to have escaped. That raises an obvious question: what happened in 2003? One idea is that the weather is to blame. In 2003, Europe experienced an extreme heat wave that led to some 80,000 extra deaths across the region. And the higher temperatures could also have triggered ill health, particularly in older people suffering from chronic diseases such as diabetes. That has important implications for governments who have to pay for health costs in Europe. And it raises the possibility that climate change is already having a bigger impact on human health than anyone imagined."

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  1. Facebook by muftak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Facebook

    1. Re:Facebook by ebno-10db · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sounds right to me. In fact, Facebook is responsible for most of the world's ill's. Eliminate Zuck and his legion of peons, and we'll end ill health, eliminate hunger, end war, and never have an ingrown toenail again. Sounds good to me.

    2. Re:Facebook by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Even if it doesn't work out, it's worth trying.

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  2. Are they fatter? by hawguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My guess would be that they are just following America's lead and are becoming fatter.

    The article even says:

    And yet this increasing lifespan masks a dark secret. Many developed countries are suffering an epidemic of chronic diseases such as diabetes and heart disease thanks to poor diets and sedentary lifestyles. The numbers are such that they must inevitably influence the health of nations as a whole but by how much?

    Then the authors go on to blame it on the weather.

    1. Re:Are they fatter? by Mr+Krinkle · · Score: 5, Funny

      We prefer the terms,
      "Big boned"
      "fluffy"
      "horizontally blessed"

      Saying we're fat can lessen our mental well being which causes global warming.

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  3. Do some more studying by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Rather than conclude that the heat wave is the culprit, first find some comparative events. Its not like there is a historical shortage of heat waves to use to validate the theory, yet there seems to have been no attempt to do so mentioned.

    1. Re:Do some more studying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Feel free to read any one of the scientific papers on how the temperatures in Europe were equal to or higher than todays ~1000 years ago.

      (And, for that matter, ~2000 and ~3000 years ago as well. You'll know these as the Medieval Warm Period, the Roman Warm Period and the Bronze Age Warm Period)

      http://www.clim-past.net/8/765/2012/cp-8-765-2012.html
      http://hol.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/10/26/0959683612460791.abstract
      http://www.wsl.ch/fe/landschaftsdynamik/dendroclimatology/Publikationen/Esper_etal.2012_GPC

      Or just deny the science and, like the article, repeat activist mantras - no matter the factual content.

    2. Re:Do some more studying by mikael · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Most of Europe is Agrarian where land is dominantly used for agriculture. Countries like France. There was the introduction of a pesticide ban in 2003/2004 - The Rotterdam Convention
      http://www.pan-europe.info/Archive/Banned%20and%20authorised.htm

      The Convention entered into force on 24 February 2004 and became legally binding for its Parties. Perhaps the replacement chemicals were worse than the original ones that were banned.

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    3. Re:Do some more studying by Dodgy+G33za · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I doubt this has a single factor, but it may be that the current cohort of old people had some disadvantage while young that the previous generation did not.

      But for the life of me I can't think of a major event that happened right across Europe in the 1930's and 1940s' that might explain it. Oh wait...

  4. Don't Worry, Be Happy...Live Longer by Bucc5062 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about the austerity measures, put into place across Europe. Perhaps the stress countries are coming under is spreading to peoples health to the point were it is a negative response. Happy people live longer and in many EU countries, people are not happy.

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  5. It's obvious, isn't it? by damn_registrars · · Score: 5, Funny

    This has to all be Barak Obama's fault, personally. There is no other possible explanation.

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    1. Re:It's obvious, isn't it? by Zynder · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you make a typo then the Errorists win!

  6. Sweden case is odd by amaurea · · Score: 5, Informative

    The article lists Sweden among the countries where the years of health are going down, but when you look at the graph for individual countries, Sweden has a strong positive trend, and does not go down significantly in any year. Is that an error, or have I missed something?

    On a side note, the article is confusing "Europe" with "The European Union". They aren't the same thing, especially when making statements like "Only the UK, Denmark and the Netherlands appear to have escaped". They didn't consider Iceland, Norway, Switzerland or any of the eastern european countries, for example. (Also, France is among those considered, and also doesn't seem to be declining).

    Finally, the study is based on interview subjects' own perception of their health, and so might be affected by news reporing on health or other psychologial effects. But it is definitely an interesting result they've found.

  7. Re:In Europe old people don't expect... by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's no lameness filter for bold!

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  8. Re:Heat wave discouraged exercise? by tsa · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only older people. When I was young we used to play with Lego in the winter and be outside when it was warm. Many of today's youth just play computer games all day long, on their playstations or what have you and outside on their phones. They only move their thumbs.

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  9. Maybe the line is moving by Another,+completely · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Could this be because it's easier to get diagnosed with diabetes, COPD, or other non-healthy conditions than it was in 2002? I've heard enough anecdotal evidence to make me ask the question, but it would be nice to see a study. How many people who were considered healthy in 2002 could visit a doctor in 2013 and be declared unhealthy, and how does that fraction vary by country? Unless an article can control for that variable, the other numbers don't really mean much.

  10. Re:electonic pollution by MysteriousPreacher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More and more of electronic pollution? Mire wifi usage, more cellphones + more upper gigahertz traffic (G2, G3, G4)?

    Imbalanced chakras? Cold and squared audio output from transistor amps? The decline of the department store?

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  11. The great depression? by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Could it be related to The Great Depression? Somebody who lived until they were 85, and died between 2003 and 2013 would have been born between 1918 and 1928. Basically, they would have been quite young during the great depression. I wonder if something like this could have big effects so much later in life. It's mostly likely that, or possibly that a lot of them ended up being veterans of the war, as they would have been around 15-25 years old when the second world war was going on. I'm sure there's some very reasonable explanation why this group of people aren't living so many healthy years.

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  12. Re:Heat wave discouraged exercise? by houghi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lego in the winter? Playing outside in the winter.

    When people see how much I eat, they are amazed that I am as fat as I am. I then tell them I still eat way too much for what I do. This is my (and many other peoples) life
    Get up and wash
    Walk 15 meters to my car and drive to work
    Get out of my car and walk 15 meters to the elevator.
    Get to the floor and walk 10 meters to my desk.
    Sit at my desk till lunch, where I walk another 20 meters.
    Back to my desk, then to the elevator, to my car and plant myself in front of my tv/PC.

    That means I do not even walk 200 meters per day. How can I NOT be fat?

    Luckily I will have to change the office where I work. That means I will have to take public transport. That means around 2KM walking per day. Still not a lot, but already a 10 fold increase of what I do now and if I do not take the two stops at the metro (in summer when the weather is nice) I will double that figure.

    For many kids the same thing happens when they are being brought to school by mom/dad instead of going by public transport.

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