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Bitcoin Tops $1,000 For the First Time

An anonymous reader writes with this bit from The Next Web "Bitcoin hit a new milestone today, passing the $1,000 mark for the first time. The virtual currency is currently trading above the four-digit figure, with its highest at $1,030 on Mt. Gox, one of the largest exchanges. Last week, Bitcoin's high for the day was $632. That means its trading value has surged 62.83 percent in a week, assuming we're looking at just its high points. That figure could of course rise even further if Bitcoin continues to push further up throughout the day."

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  1. Sell now. by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The price may go up a little more, but all indications are sell now before the crash.

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    1. Re:Sell now. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nonsense, it'll keep skyrocketing in perpetuity! Adios Beanie Babies, daddy found himself a new gravy train. Choo choo!

    2. Re:Sell now. by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tons of people said that when the price spiked from $4 to $20.

    3. Re:Sell now. by Njovich · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Great! Lets do a 100 dollar bet: if the price at January 1st is lower than now I pay you $100, otherwise you pay me $100. You're in?

    4. Re:Sell now. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The price may go up a little more, but all indications are sell now to kickstart the crash.

      FTFY.

      Most market crashes are triggered by large sell-offs; by imploring people to sell, sell, sell, you're doing your part to make the prophecy self-fulfilling.

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    5. Re:Sell now. by alexander_686 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Read up on “Short Selling” in the stock market.

      What you do is borrow BitCoins from party A, exchanging your cash for their BitCcoins. Then sell those BitCoins for cash to party B. You now owe BitCoins and own cash. When BitCoins crash you buy back those BitCoins at a lower price to satisfy your loan to Party A.

      There are people who claim that short selling can drive the price down. I don’t think you can. Or rather, a very large group can temporally drive the price down by short selling. But in the long run it balances out - as you said for every short seller there is a long buyer. So I don’t give the OP much credence. But then again I think he was trying to make a joke.

      A word of warning - there is a old saying that the markets can stay rational longer then you can stay solvent.

    6. Re:Sell now. by lgw · · Score: 4, Informative

      "In the entire history of investing, there has never been anything like X before."

      This was said in earnest in every single past bubble. Bitcoin's future is entirely determined by fashion - as it becomes more fashionable, price will go up, if people drop it like last-years boy band, it can go to 0.

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    7. Re:Sell now. by ultranova · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And when you do get margin called, you're fucked.

      Don't play more than you're willing to risk if it tanks completely.

      Better yet: stick to buying and selling. Leave derivatives to the professionals. Even they trip up on them, as the financial crisis shows, but they'll also get bailed out while you won't.

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  2. dammit... by gabereiser · · Score: 5, Funny

    why didn't I buy 1,000 bitcoins when they were $50 a few years ago!!!

    1. Re:dammit... by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Massive currency volatility makes long term business planning impossible.
      Unless bitcoin settles down, it'll never become a viable mainstream alternative.

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    2. Re:dammit... by brit74 · · Score: 5, Informative

      They were at $90 five months ago. (Not sure why you're modded as "informative" when you're inaccurate.) https://coinbase.com/charts

  3. If central bankers are like rats... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... then Bitcoin is like rat poison.

    Seriously, its your protection against money printing.

  4. Re:Who wants to prick the bubble? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nope, he's old school, pickax and wheelbarrow. The black lung is a bitch though.

  5. Why do they call it a currency? by bob_super · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is just a hyper-volatile investment which can be bartered against goods from people who are either gamblers or clueless.

    All currencies are volatile to some extent, but this thing has no fundamentals to back it up.

    1. Re:Why do they call it a currency? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

      same ol' shit every thread.

  6. Re:Who wants to prick the bubble? by east+coast · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh, so he plays Minecraft too?

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  7. Anyone want tulips? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    .Seems like March 1637 all over again.

  8. Cryptolocker Spike? by texaopian · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone think that the rise in price might be a result of the new demand for Bitcoins due to Cryptolocker outbreak?

  9. Re:Big ass hole by Lord+Apathy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no ulterior motive or even sour grapes, just pure speculation at this point. Even most bitcoin "investers" believe that bitcoins are over priced. An they would be correct.

    People are hording them like stocks hoping the value will keep going up and up. While bitcoins maybe be a virtual currency and not subject to the whims and regulations of any government they are still affected by the laws of economics, human greed, and insecurity.

    The higher the value that bitcoins go the more people will start to get nervous about it and start wanting to sell. When this happens more people will sell and then the market will become over saturated with sellers and not enough buyers. Then the value will crash, free fall is a better word for it.

    An since bitcoins are not regulated by any government there are no safety nets in place to stop a bitcoin freefall. I don't even know if it can be stopped because of the way they work.

    I'm not just pulling these theories out of my ass ether. There is precedent for just such a collapse. The stock market collapse in the late '20 and early '30 that brought on the great depression. The things that caused it are currently all in place to cause a "great bitcoin depression."

    Now I'm not saying that a bitcoin free fall will cause any kind of global economic collapse. Bitcoins are not that popular or even well known to cause that. In reality a bitcoin collapse will probably be barely noticed by most people.

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  10. Re:Who wants to prick the bubble? by Pr0xY · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I recently had a discussion about whether or not the spike in BTC is a bubble or not and came to some interesting conclusions.

    From what I can tell, essentially a bubble burst occurs when prices have become so inflated that people are priced out of buying in. This creates a lack of buyers, causing the sellers to dramatically drop their prices. For example, if I buy a house for $100,000, and then sell it for $150,000, then they sell it at $250,000, etc, etc. Eventually the price gets so high that people just won't buy the house. Leaving the last buyer to take the hit and sell at a loss (if he chooses to sell).

    BTC is somewhat different though. It is divisible to 8 decimal places (infinitely divisible in theory, just need to update the clients). So people can never be "priced out" of the market, they can just buy a smaller slice of the pie if they desire. This is unlike a house where I (typically) can't buy just a fraction of it.

    So the only thing I can say for sure, is that we cannot be sure whether or not the rapid rise in BTC value is a bubble which will burst or not.

  11. Re:Big ass hole by Bacon+Bits · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bitcoins are a nice idea but people are not treating them like money. They are treating them like stocks and commodities. They are not commodities, they are coins and coins are supposed to be spent.

    Money is a commodity. Money markets and foreign exchange markets prove that it is.

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  12. Re:Who wants to prick the bubble? by jythie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wish I had mod points ^_^ but yeah, that is an element that differs from classic bubble mechanics.

    We might encounter other problems though such as traders making BTC unproductive for people using it for goods and services. It could also crash if some large (or simply enough) players cash out and deplete various exchange's ability to convert BTC into other currencies, which could cause exchanges to close shop and thus reduce the utility.

    Though historically there are plenty of examples of bubbles of easily subdivided items, even including things like gold. So you can not get a housing-style bubble with BTC, but that does not make it immune from the general pattern.

  13. Looks like deflation by Algae_94 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I remember a lot of argument on old bitcoin posts about whether bitcoins were a deflationary currency or not. It is certainly looking that they are right now. The value of them is increasing with time allowing one bitcoin to buy more and more with each passing day. So with the current market, why would someone spend bitcoins? They can wait a day and spend less coins for the same goods, or wait two days and possibly spend even less. This will kill it as a currency. Bitcoin will be solely used as an investment for speculation soon.

  14. Re:Where is all of this money coming from? by crtreece · · Score: 4, Funny

    I do ATM

    You might want to spell out the acronym in that context.

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  15. Re:Who wants to prick the bubble? by iluvcapra · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you buy a commodity, or any item with a static underlying value, with the expectation that you will profit from appreciation, you are a speculator. Having a years-long time horizon, or a moral commitment to the commodity, does not significantly change your status.

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