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Jolla: Ex-Nokia Employees Launch Smartphone (MeeGo Resurrected)

mrspoonsi writes "A team of ex-Nokia employees has released the first handset running on a new smartphone platform. The Jolla phone — pronounced Yol-la — is powered by open-source operating system Sailfish, but can run most apps designed for Google's Android platform. The platform — originally called MeeGo — was developed by Nokia, but dumped in 2011 in favour of the company adopting the Windows Phone system. Nokia released just one handset running the software, the N9-00. Antti Saarnio, chairman and co-founder of Jolla, told the BBC in May that MeeGo — now called Sailfish — had not been given enough chance to succeed."

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  1. Come on eds... by wbr1 · · Score: 4, Insightful
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  2. Re:Good job editors by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    You posted this story yesterday.

    Except yesterday here is today in Australia and Japan.

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  3. Re:doop by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 3, Funny

    THE STORY SHALL BE REPOSTED UNTIL THE CRYING CEASES.

    Think of it as less of a dupe and more of a commandment to buy one.

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  4. Re:Good job editors by phluid61 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, yesterday here in Australia is today in backwards regions like the USA.

  5. Rhythm Software File Manager with SMB support by tepples · · Score: 3, Informative

    And if you need it spelled out to you: Install Rhythm Software File Manager. It can not only browse files stored on your tablet but also copy whole folders on and off a Windows or Samba share.

    1. Re:Rhythm Software File Manager with SMB support by MrNemesis · · Score: 2

      I mean, really.. Are we re-inventing the dumb terminal here?

      Yes. It's much easier to secure revenue when you've got a guaranteed monthly income from people whose data you're holding hosta... I mean, from people whose data you're protecting. I mean, it takes money to look after this stuff, and you wouldn't want anything to happen to it would you?

      Witness the extremely aggressive push to even remove things like (micro)SD slots from mobile phones and tablets under the guise that it's a "design compromise", despite the fact they're miniscule. Surprisingly enough, the people who make android and iOS and windows and what have you and provision the "cloud" (aka Someone Elses Computer) behind them think it would be a really good idea for you to use their cloud.

      I bought one of the original Nexus 7's and was shocked by how utterly unusable it was as a "computer to do things". Even finding applications that aren't in the google store is tricky.

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  6. *sigh* by CreamyG31337 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, as an experienced MeeGo developer, this just makes me sad because they won't sell one to North Americans. Nokia did this to us with the N9 too, but at least they sent me a developer device. These guys still haven't released the official GSM/LTE frequencies it supports for some stupid reason, so I don't even know if I should bother trying to import one.

    1. Re:*sigh* by kthreadd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Jolla is a very small company and doesn't have the resources to ship to the entire world from day one. I'm sure they will ship to North American customers as soon as they can.

    2. Re:*sigh* by GNious · · Score: 4, Interesting

      From Jolla's website:

      GSM/3G/4G LTE* (Works on 6 continents).

      Which doesn't answer your question, but should mean that it works unless you're living in Antarctica :)

      GSM Arena says:

      2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
      3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
      4G Network LTE

      yeah, probably not trustworthy, but one would hope they have a (semi-)official source for it.

      Disclaimer: Mine is in the mail... :)

  7. Re:i just bought a nexus 7 tablet for black friday by Stormwatch · · Score: 2

    Yeah, the lack of a microSD slot is a deal killer, but it's your fault for buying a tablet without checking the specs.

  8. Is this one bugged by the NSA? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If it's a Finnish company not owned by Microsoft or any other company in cahoots with the NSA, this could be the only smartphone worth buying anymore.

  9. Pro by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Antti Saarnio, chairman and co-founder of Jolla, told the BBC in May that MeeGo -- now called Sailfish -- had not been given enough chance to succeed."

    Antti's brother, Prro Saarnio, disagreed.

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  10. Re:Android runs Android apps too... by kthreadd · · Score: 2

    Sailfish is more like a traditional GNU/Linux distribution. The Android compatibility is a useful feature, but the idea is not that most apps should need it. It's very much a continuation of Meego.

  11. Re:Good job editors by AlphaWolf_HK · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry I just don't trust a continent where the toilets flow backwards.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_vs._Australia#Reaction_in_Australia

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  12. Re:Android runs Android apps too... by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    more like mer + meego, kinda.

    and well if they did that then it would just be a bunch of android apps now wouldn't it? and yes they're using android HAL since it simplifies buying the parts/pre manufactured phones a lot..

    if they just did a devkit for android they wouldn't be a phone design company though would they?

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  13. Now give us a hardware keyboard... by master_p · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...and I am sold.

    I tried the iPhone. Didn't like it, too much of a walled garden.

    I tried Android. It's UI sucks. Huge incosistences all around.

    I will stick with my N900 until a Sailfish phone with a hardware keyboard arrives.

  14. Re:Had a good run with Nokia by tiagosousa · · Score: 5, Informative

    Am sure this new model is an "Android Metoo" phone.

    Far fom it! Sailfish has a very distinct feel and it actually goes back a few years, being from the same lineage of Meego and Maemo before it. Check out the main interface features in this short video. And it's a proper GNU/Linux system (as opposed to Android/Linux), if you're into that sort of thing.

  15. Re:Jesus... by RaceProUK · · Score: 2

    To be fair, yesterday existed, so the editors might not have been paying full attention to the site.

    FTFY

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  16. Re:i just bought a nexus 7 tablet for black friday by Guy+Harris · · Score: 2

    Otherwise, I'd stick with iOS - also iOS (like Windows and Metro) has a hybrid kernel, unlike Android or Linux.

    ZOMG SOME RANDOM BITS OF DARWIN LIVE IN USERLAND AND GET MESSAGES FROM THE KERNEL THAT'S SO KOOL!!!!!!1111ONE!!!!!!!!!

    And, whilst NT has a bit more such stuff, neither of them are sufficiently different from an Old Fashioned Monolithic Kernel to be particularly interesting in that regard.

  17. Re:N900, not N9-00 by fatphil · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was internal to the project. I can assure you that comment on wikipedia is bollocks.

    We used the hardware numbers (RX- or RM- something), and the code names (Rover, Lankku, ...), we never used the intended/expected public code numbers, as they could change at any time. I have seen an n950 with "n9" stamped on the case, for example.

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  18. Re:"but can run most apps" by queazocotal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    'just replicate the damn Android API, piece by piece, it is open is it not? '
    The open parts of the API work.

    The problem is that increasing parts of the android API are closed, being implemented not by open source code, but by closed source binaries with licences that do not permit redistribution by other manufacturers.

    http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-10/21/googles-iron-grip-on-android

    'Play Services is a closed source app owned by Google and licensed as part of the Google Apps package. Any feature you see move from "normal" Android to Google Play Services is also moving from open source to closed source. This app pulls off the neat trick of not only enticing users with exclusive, closed source features, but locking in third-party developers with Google's proprietary APIs as well.'

    This is entirely by (googles) design, and for exactly this reason.
    To make it hard for third party vendors to release devices which run android apps because an increasing fraction of them won't work as time and increasing integration into Play Services happens.

    I have not investigated, but would suspect that the various APIs were designed around patents google owns or controls, in order to make implementing the backend supporting the API legally impossible in many countries.

  19. Not just a dupe, but bullshit by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    The platform â" originally called MeeGo â" was developed by Nokia

    Uh what? It's a merge of Moblin, from Intel, and Maemo from Nokia. And the nicest-looking interface is from Moblin. Nice Nokia fellation, though, submitter.

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  20. Re:*sigh* Eastasia by mspohr · · Score: 2

    Eastasia
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