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New Windows XP Zero-Day Under Attack

wiredmikey writes "A new Windows kernel zero-day vulnerability is being exploited in targeted attacks against Windows XP users. Microsoft confirmed the issue and published a security advisory to acknowledge the flaw after anti-malware vendor FireEye warned that the Windows bug is being used in conjunction with an Adobe Reader exploit to infect Windows machines with malware. Microsoft described the issue as an elevation of privilege vulnerability that allows an attacker to run arbitrary code in kernel mode. An attacker could then install programs; view, change, or delete data; or create new accounts with full administrative rights."

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  1. Upate to the most current by KenValderrama · · Score: 3, Informative

    Adobe Reader - problem solved

    1. Re:Upate to the most current by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Uninstall Adobe Reader - 2 problems solved!

    2. Re:Upate to the most current by dreamchaser · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Upgrading the OS would be wise as well, especially since we're fast coming to the point of end of support, April 8th 2014. Windows 7 and 8.x both improved security considerable, and there are other more secure options as well such as MacOS X and the other varies flavors of *nix such as Linux distributions.

    3. Re:Upate to the most current by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Never have an adobe product installed in the first place - solved.

    4. Re:Upate to the most current by KenValderrama · · Score: 2

      genius !

    5. Re:Upate to the most current by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Service Pack 2, a.k.a. when XP really became stable, was way back in 2004. SP3 was back in 2008, still 5 years ago. If you think about XP being NT2000 with a nicer GUI, then the design was set way back in 1997 or so, back when dialup was king and an AOL disk was not yet a running joke.

      To those that say "well my computer works fine".. umm, no it doesn't. Your OS was designed in 1997-2001, in a relatively much safer Internet environment, and is not designed for always on persistent attacks with billions of dollars available by hacking. As much as I think Microsoft keeps people out to dry, at some point you need to update.

      For good and bad (and Mavericks has some things that piss me off) the Apple model of forced upgrades has some reasoning to it.

    6. Re:Upate to the most current by mlts · · Score: 5, Interesting

      For Web browsing in a VM, it is hard to beat XP for something that takes 512 MB of RAM, 16-24 gigs of disk space (partitioned into two disks, one for the system, one for scratch space for sandboxie's sandbox.) Its footprint is so light, the VM can stay resident on a box with 6-8 gigs of memory without issue, even with running fairly larger applications like Acrobat [1], Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and Flash.

      I use Acrobat for producing PDFs for long term storage, FoxIt for viewing. So far, so good.

    7. Re:Upate to the most current by lgw · · Score: 2

      30GB is fine for Win 7, but you might have a lot of other stuff.

      Keeping WinXP around for aging crufty hardware isn't that interesting - just throw that old worthless crap out already, this isn't the 90s where you have to hang on to the old box until you have $3000 for a new one.

      OTOH, Windows is really hurting for a lightweight OS to replace XP in virtual machines. When you're trying to stack 200 virtual machines on a server, WinXP really hits a sweet spot. MS seems to have lost the ability to do "thin and lightweight" after the move to managed code.

      Is WinPE good for anything here? Has anyone tried using it as a real OS?

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    8. Re:Upate to the most current by twnth · · Score: 4, Informative
    9. Re:Upate to the most current by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sure, Windows 7 fits on my EeePC. Not.

      Then do like I did: install an Xfce-based Linux distribution and run Windows applications in Wine. Should Microsoft follow through on the rumored complete deprecation of the desktop in Windows 9, you'll be ready. Or you can install a larger SSD in your Eee PC and max its RAM.

      Do they even make pocketable little 9" PCs any more?

      I too mourned the end of netbooks. Tablets sold with a keyboard, such as the ASUS Transformer Book, are probably the closest successor.

    10. Re:Upate to the most current by mlts · · Score: 2

      I'm in the same boat. I would love to have a full featured PC with a 7-8" screen that I can carry with me that I can use with a USB serial port for diagnosing router issues.

    11. Re:Upate to the most current by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Informative

      My CNC requires a parallel port which doesn't even exists anymore and my CNC software can't run on Windows versions above XP. Are you suggesting I throw away my perfectly good CNC setup just because it's "old worthless crap"? Send me a check for $15K and I'll think about it.

    12. Re: Upate to the most current by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Foxit is just as bloated as Adobe Reader.
      Sumatra PDF is what Foxit was before becoming bloatware.

    13. Re:Upate to the most current by LoRdTAW · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It sounds like he might be running a PC based CNC system that uses a PC for control. You posted a DNC box that is for uploading programs via DNC which has always been serial. Some older PC based CNC controllers used the parallel port (especially common for stepper systems). Systems that used brushless servos typically used some type of dedicated hardware to close the servo loop and is commanded via the PC. Typically those were ISA cards with a DSP on board but also parallel based units were available.

      I also support the PC based CNC systems at my place of work. The system is quite advanced and uses a real time subsystem which only supports Windows 2000/XP. One of the systems is XP and the others are Windows 2000. New software costs about 4k and depending on the drives used, may require new drives at a cost of $1700 per axis. We still have one DOS based CNC system left, an ISA/DSP card with proprietary vendor written software supported by one guy on planet earth. Since that system sees little use it is not worth to $30k+ to upgrade to a modern CNC system. And that price is just to keep the existing motors and stages, $60+k for a complete replacement.

    14. Re:Upate to the most current by epyT-R · · Score: 2

      The most irrational bullshit ever. If the equipment works fine, leave it be. Changing software around just to bump the OS revision on high uptime equipment is a fool's game. THAT is idiocy.

    15. Re:Upate to the most current by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 2

      Keeping WinXP around for aging crufty hardware isn't that interesting - just throw that old worthless crap out already, this isn't the 90s where you have to hang on to the old box until you have $3000 for a new one.

      On one hand I agree. On the other it's a little annoying that just about any system from the last 10 years, or more, has enough power to surf the web and check email. So it would be nice to keep perfectly adequate hardware out of landfills and not piss away a couple hundred bucks on a replacement.

    16. Re:Upate to the most current by 0123456 · · Score: 2

      10" are not gone, just changed.
      http://www.asus.com/in-search-of-incredible/us-en/asus-transformer-book-t100/

      Except:

      1. It seems to be about twice the price of my old EeePC.
      2. It's a tablet with attached keyboard, so, with an Atom stuffed inside, is likely to be even more poorly balanced than my ARM Transformer.

      Chromebooks seem to be the real successor to netbooks, but the OS is a pain to replace.

    17. Re: Upate to the most current by jones_supa · · Score: 2

      Please do the responsible thing and file a bug report.

    18. Re:Upate to the most current by dreamchaser · · Score: 2

      I find that my Asus Transformer Prime 201 is just fine for the majority of tasks, and it works with my USB serial cable. Yes, I can console into firewalls, routers, switches, etc. with my tablet, and the fact that I have the optional keyboard dock makes it all the nicer.

    19. Re:Upate to the most current by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Have you tried to install XP in the last 6 months in VMware

      It has the SVCHost.exe taking 100% cpu utilization bug, updates do not work, this is what happens. It took a week to install XP with my host machine running very hot.

      I finally found a fix of looking for a KB randomly for an IE update. MS support and googling had no answer to this but someone in a forum mentioned this fix after many many patches and fixits.

      100% of all XP versions are impacted regardless of source as I assumed I had a bad .iso. The thing is the hardest OS to install compared to FreeBSD and other harder oses due to the amount of patches, steps, and other workarounds to get IE 6 working for myself.

      I accidently lost my iso folder and I wont miss re-installing XP. I have an XP image still backed up and will gladly just upgrade my ram to use Windows 7 images instead when that nasty outdated dinosaur dies off.
       

    20. Re:Upate to the most current by twnth · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure that you actually looked at the item I linked to.
      Asus T100 "book" is a new product, only been on the market a couple weeks (local retailers here in Alberta got their first shipment last week). Its not the old android transformer that you may be thinking of.
      -10" 1388x768. maybe a smidge bigger than the EEE
      -full windows 8.1 32bit (not RT), comes with Office 2013 home and student. So it'll run just about anything
      -quad core modern atom processor, 2 gig ram, Intel HD graphics. Office, netflix runs just fine. BF4 won't run, but a few games might be playable (look for demo's on youtube, decide for yourself what's playable).
      -comes with the keyboard, MicroSD, mini-HDMI, USB3. Ya its a tiny keyboard, but tactile buttons make it quite usable for my small hands to touch type.
      -supposed to have an 11 hour battery. Haven't clocked mine yet, but haven't had to recharge during the day yet either.

      32gig model cost me $400 (Canadian), so its a bit more than the EEE was back in the day, but still half the money of a Surface Pro (which doesn't come with the keyboard). Home and student goes for $150 around here, so makes it a much easier pill to swallow.

      I'm still getting all my tools loaded, but this is my new always handy laptop replacement. Very much what the EEE tried to be.

    21. Re:Upate to the most current by digitalchinky · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you already have flash installed it will periodically ask if you want to update, if you click yes, it does a drive by install of McAfee, no opt-out at all. That's pretty evil behavior.

    22. Re:Upate to the most current by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Sorry I prefer progress. I like TRIM for my ssds, pin apps and websites, instant search (no more using the all programs with a mouse to find something), ribbons, HTML 5, security, no hangs, side by side SXS .dlls which dynamically link so one .dll doesn't overwite another during an app install, virtualized registry for each user with defrags and doesn't have windows rot... and with Windows 8 instant fast boot up, no memory leaks, less bloat, etc.

      Windows 7 is a very superior OS. XP has tons of bugs and quirks and slows down over time. XP was never that great anyway. It became great when Vista came out and loyalists appeared who fight to the death to keep it.

      My fathers computer took 5 minutes to boot and always was slow with XP. I put Windows 7 and it is fast now.

      I am glad XP is coming to an end as my cell phone is more advanced and more pleasant to use and up to date over it.

    23. Re:Upate to the most current by QuantumRiff · · Score: 3, Funny

      We have some expensive pitney bowes mailing systems. We inquired about a newer computer, NOT running xp. Turns out they changed the entire print assembly for the version that runs Windows 7. Its a $20k upgrade. (also need a new controller box, old one doesn't work with WIndows 7 software (mainly the hardware dongle, apparently)..

      Our brand new pitney bowes mailing system has a windows 7 computer. The techs that installed it told our senior management to never run windows update, or install antivirus on it, or it would cause problems and make the machine not work. Boy did they get pissy when I put it on its own vlan, with only access to one server, and one port on that server, to get its updated files.

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    24. Re:Upate to the most current by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      GP AC here. I looked around to see if Adobe had anything to say about this and I saw a post where an Adobe employee claimed that the inclusion of the McAfee software was required to fund the development of Flash Player because they provide it freely to users. It was also pointed out that users can opt-out and how they supposedly understand users' concerns about bundled crapware so they will always offer an opt-out. I can't seem to find the link now, but the way it was worded just sounded so smug and entitled. The question that comes to mind is, why not make it opt-in instead? The answer is because their original intent was to trick users into installing it.

      Isn't it funny how a multi billion dollar corporation that made shitloads per software license of Creative Suite (and individual component applications therein) and distributed Flash Player (a necessary plugin for their own customers' audience) for years without the need for bundled crapware is all of a sudden "forced" to start including it; all around the same time that they discontinued Flash support on mobile devices and went to an even more expensive subscription model for their bread and butter products?

      I'd definitely say Adobe is evil.

    25. Re:Upate to the most current by Zibodiz · · Score: 2

      I'm not sure I follow. If you have an XP disk with sp0, sp1, or sp2 you can install just fine (I do it semi-regularly with an sp2 disk). I've never tried with a disk that has sp3, but I wouldn't expect anything different. After install, I install sp3 from an .iso, then it updates fully to current level over the course of a couple hours, and it runs very stably. What VM software are you using, and what PC platform? I use Virtualbox in Ubuntu on both AMD & Intel machines (older dual-cores).
      On another note, IE is up to version 8 for XP. I don't know of anyone that still requires v6.

    26. Re:Upate to the most current by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Minimum requirements for Windows 7 is 16GB. I forget how much it actually uses, but it will be less. Hard drive footprint of 7Starter through 7Ultimate is the same. You can do an "anytime upgrade" from starter to Ultimate if you want. Starter just disables features.

      The actual story of why Starter exists is early in the Netbook era (with small 4GB SSDs, and non Aero compatible Intel 915 chipsets which themselves were part of a Vista capable lawsuit), machines like EeePC 701 physically could not run Vista, but could run XP well, and Asus was selling them with Xandros (which was a terrible distro). Acer was selling Linux Netbooks too. To keep from losing market share Microsoft had to embarrassingly extend the life of XP by selling cheap XP Home licenses for low cost PCs (with restrictions on the hardware). Eventually the Netbook market platform had standardized on Atom processors, Aero compatible i945 (or better), 160GB hard drive, but low cost XP licences drove prices down. These machines technically were more than capable of running Vista or better. So when Windows 7 came out, Microsoft wanted to kill off selling new XP licences, so to capture the low cost PC market they sold 7 Starter, again with limitations on hardware.

      My father has an MSI Wind that sold with Windows XP, and I upgraded the RAM from 1 to 2GB, and the machine happily runs Windows 8. I have an EeePC 701 that shipped with Xandros that happily runs XP, though I have set up Windows 7 to run off of an external Hard drive if I wanted. I also have an AMD based MSI netbook that shipped with XP Home, that I upgraded to Windows 7 right away. It came with 200GB HDD and 2GB RAM, which technically exceeded the limitations for low cost versions of XP Home so I don't know how they managed that.

    27. Re:Upate to the most current by serviscope_minor · · Score: 3, Informative

      My CNC requires a parallel port which doesn't even exists anymore and my CNC software can't run on Windows versions above XP.

      You can buy single lane PCIe parallel port cards for about $30. If you pick a decent one, they act like totally bog standard parallel ports and don't require drivers etc.

      I don't know if you need harware virtualisation to connect the parallel port to a VM (I suspect not, but such processors are cheap now anyway--I think AMD offers it across the range).

      There's a good chance the PC will die long before the mill: a good, well maintained mill will last nearly forever. Probably worth investigating contingencies for when that happens.

      Also, have you checked to see if the mill runs off g-code? Many do which makes it pretty machine independent.

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  2. They Didn't save this? by cant_get_a_good_nick · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Hmm, a bug that gets admin rights.... If I were sufficiently evil I would have saved this until April when there's no chance of it being patched ever.

    1. Re:They Didn't save this? by SgtChaireBourne · · Score: 2

      Who's to say there aren't other, better things saved up for April? If they've managed to fritter away their window to migrate to GNU/Linux, well they'll have fun in April.

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  3. Too Bad by Oysterville · · Score: 2, Funny

    Too bad Windows XP won't be supported much longer. Once that happens, it would be a...shame if something were to happen to that PC. If you upgrade to Windows 8, Microsoft will surely protect you.

    1. Re:Too Bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Because your cellphone, tablet, or Macintosh enjoyed 13 years of support from initial release (and 7 years after being replaced by the next version).

  4. Alternatives to Flash? by tepples · · Score: 2

    Never have an adobe product installed in the first place - solved.

    So other than Flash or Edge Animate, what's a good program for creating vector animations?

    1. Re:Alternatives to Flash? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      notepad

    2. Re:Alternatives to Flash? by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      i do all my graphic layout in ppt. they have vectors and shapes too. also, cool animations.

  5. Re:Ummm, why should it not? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Microsoft needs to decide whether they are going to let XP go public domain, as per contract on copyright, or to continue to support it.

    You have a hilariously mistaken idea of how copyrights work.

  6. Gosh.... by hazeii · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh, I see, a ramping-up of press releases about 'exploits' against XP prior to the cut-off date.

    Didn't see that coming.

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  7. Useless exploit, just gives admin to a local user. by ReekRend · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Per TFA, this exploit is dumb and unconcerning. It just lets a standard user perform admin operations, no remote exploit of any kind. There have always been many ways for a standard user to get admin on any OS, the most trivial being physical access.

  8. Re-buying peripherals by tepples · · Score: 2

    A lot of companies own multi-thousand-dollar PC peripherals with no NT 6 (Windows Vista/7/8) driver, and the peripheral's manufacturer has either gone out of business or deliberately chosen not to make new drivers for old but still working hardware. When companies have to re-buy expensive peripherals, the manufacturer makes more money.

  9. Re:Useless exploit, just gives admin to a local us by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    so all you need to due is use this to install that remote exploit app.

  10. Would be funny if the attacker could by future+assassin · · Score: 3, Funny

    wipe windows and install Linux on the machine.

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    1. Re:Would be funny if the attacker could by DMJC · · Score: 2

      All they need to do to make this happen is find a memory point in windows, where Linux can be injected so it overwrites the kernel and boots linux after enough of the root filesystem has been written to disk. I'm surprised noone has tried to do this before.

  11. Re:Useless exploit, just gives admin to a local us by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know if you're joking, I suspect you are, but for the benefit of the following readers I'll explain.

    Here's how it works. User is tricked into accessing an infected pdf which contains code to elevate the user's privileges. the infected document's code downloads further exploits to root-kit the box. Right now the exploit is in a pdf, but infected websites are sure to follow.
    If it's out there, and it has a picture of a puppy (or, in the USA, the word "free"), some user will click on it.

    If you read the TFA, then you know it also is a Server 2003 bug as well.
    Privilege elevation exploits are a nightmare for Terminal Server and Citrix boxes because it is a conduit for installing tools (using the admin rights) to grab other users' credentials and to continue from there to own the entire environment.

  12. Server 2003 as well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did the submitter RTFA, or just submit as soon as (s)he saw the words "XP exploit" somewhere?

    It's not mentioned, in the Slashdot article, but it's also a Server 2003 bug.
    https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2914486
    This means Server 2003 Terminal Servers and Citrix boxes.

  13. Re:Useless exploit, just gives admin to a local us by something_wicked_thi · · Score: 2

    No, it is not trivial to go from a non-root user to a root user, at least in a properly secured system. That requires local root exploits such as these. This is the whole basis for running daemons as non-privileged users. Even if Apache has an exploit, if it's running as a dedicated, non-privileged user, you can't get root on the system.

    Local root exploits are serious, though obviously not as serious as a remote remote exploit. It's also true that they are usually easy to come by on unpatched systems. But your claim that it's trivial to go from a non-privileged user to a privileged one is incorrect.

    Your ideas about security are wrong, and you are missing the first rule of holes: when you find yourself in one, stop digging.

  14. Re:Ummm, why should it not? by LinuxIsGarbage · · Score: 2

    Unless you've been living under a rock for the past year or more, they HAVE decided what they're doing with it. On April 8, 2014, the update and activation servers are going dark. That's it. Game over. The End. They're NOT releasing a patch to disable activation and they're NOT releasing another service pack or update pack. You won't be able to do a fresh install without cracking the activation and you won't be able to get the 150 or so updates since SP3 without using a third party update pack. Do not pass GO, do not collect $200.

    I doubt we'll go through the same thing with people hanging on to Vista for dear life on April 11, 2017 but I can already hear the same whining for Win 7 on January 14, 2020.

    I have heard nothing indicating that they are planning on shutting down activation servers. This (recent) article agrees http://www.windowsobserver.com/2013/09/17/will-microsoft-turn-off-the-windows-xp-activations-servers-after-official-support-ends-in-april-2014/

    After XP End Of Support, Windows XP will remain on MSDN and TechNet for customers who still need to activate and re-activate XP (there aren’t new retail copies). We don’t have a date to share around when activation will be shut off, but it will be on for the foreseeable future.

    As a precedent, Microsoft released a "sunset" version of Money Plus when they shut down activation servers for it. Adobe did similar for CS2.
    http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=20738

    When usage rates drop below 1-5% they'd probably consider sunsetting activation. Right now XP has between 10-25%.

    You will be able to get all updates to date, but they won't release new ones. As a precedent, last time I tried you could update Windows 98 to July 2006 state (when support for Windows 98 was stopped).