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Death to the Trapezoid... Next USB Connector Will Be Reversible

TheRealHocusLocus writes "Extreme bandwidth is nice, intelligent power management is cool... but folks should be spilling into the streets in thankful praise that the next generation miniature USB connector will fit either way. All told — just how many intricate miracle devices have been scrapped in their prime — because a tiny USB port was mangled? For millennia untold chimpanzees and people have been poking termite mounds with round sticks. I for one am glad to see round stick technology make its way into consumer electronics. Death to the trapezoid, bring back the rectangle! So... since we're on roll here... how many other tiny annoyances that lead to big fails are out there?" The new connector will be smaller too.

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  1. fit both ways by Chrisq · · Score: 5, Funny

    That's immoral

    1. Re:fit both ways by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      Ruins the sanctity of cabling.

    2. Re:fit both ways by Urkki · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ruins the sanctity of cabling.

      No, it's all natural when the cabling is born that way. If you want to see ruined sanctity, ram a current USB plug in the wrong way...

      But I say this is only the first step. Next we must eradicate male - female difference, and have just one plug-socket which will fit, work and feel good no matter how you do the coupling.

  2. Atari would be proud by clickclickdrone · · Score: 5, Interesting

    USB, developed from the Atari 800's SIO technology (1978/79!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_SIO

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    1. Re:Atari would be proud by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because Wikipedia isn't complete/perfect? Feel free to add the appropriate reference to the page.

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    2. Re:Atari would be proud by crow · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yes, Atari had a serial bus that was quite nice in its day. Too bad they didn't promote it as a standard for other computer makers of the day to use. There are some significant parallels to USB, as well as many differences.

      But what really sets it apart from USB is the lack of standardization, not technical differences. USB was part of a vision for all computers. Atari never considered pushing SIO for use with Apple or Commodore.

    3. Re:Atari would be proud by clickclickdrone · · Score: 4, Informative

      SIO could not be hot-plugged, did not auto-load drivers, could not be hubbed, etc.

      No one is saying SIO is USB, just it shared some DNA and a designer. On your feature list, Hot plugging, no. Auto-load drivers, yes it could. Some of the modems used that. Hubbed? Sort of. Atari didn't release anything but third parties did such as the Quintopus that turned one SIO into 5. http://nleaudio.com/css/products.htm

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  3. Even worse... by cpotoso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is the fact that the standard USB connection (rectangle) is not really 180 degrees symmetric (despite a shape that indicates it should be), usually takes 3+ attempts to get it in. Damn it, Jim, a spin-1/2 connector!

    1. Re:Even worse... by clickclickdrone · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find if I go to plug in a USB connector, it's best to change your mind at the last minute and turn it over because you're *always* wrong first time.

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    2. Re:Even worse... by loganljb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Obviously, you've never tried plugging a USB cable into the back of a tower that can't easily be moved (with a lot of connections in the back, it's rather difficult to move unless all of your wires are long). The plugs are sideways. What's up and what's down?

      Equally, for micro/mini USB, have you ever tried plugging in your phone in the dark, when it's yelling at you about needing to be charged? For that matter, those connectors are TINY. Can you read anything written on them?

      Reversible connectors -- or connectors with an actual OBVIOUS direction -- would be very nice.

    3. Re:Even worse... by JackieBrown · · Score: 5, Funny

      I find if I go to plug in a USB connector, it's best to change your mind at the last minute and turn it over because you're *always* wrong first time.

      Unfortunately, the only times that I would not be wrong the first time are the times I do this. There is no way to win.

    4. Re:Even worse... by Thanshin · · Score: 5, Funny

      Damn it, Jim, a spin-1/2 connector!

      USB connections are quantum entangled. At the other side of the wormhole there's a reality where you've spent your entire life getting the usb in in the first try.

      In that reality you're rich and powerful.

    5. Re:Even worse... by SJHillman · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's a practical application of the Monty Hall Problem

    6. Re:Even worse... by DaPhil · · Score: 5, Funny

      USB plugs only fit in after they are observed, Before that, they are in superposition. See http://www.funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/4555650/The+Quantum+state+of+a+USB/ for an explanation.

    7. Re:Even worse... by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Equally, for micro/mini USB, have you ever tried plugging in your phone in the dark,

      The process goes something like: gently push. Doesn't work. wiggle a bit. Still doesn't work. Flip over and try again. Neither of those work either. Then repeat a little bit harder until eventually it goes in or breaks.

      Fun fact: apparently on the nexus 5 you can jam in the connector upside down quite easily!

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    8. Re:Even worse... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is what you get for using a Universal Schrodinger Bus connector.

  4. and Just after by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Interesting
  5. Re:Apple All Over Again by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Unlike Lightning, this is just a connector for USB 2/3, not a whole new interface. A dumb, cheap adaptor should suffice. (Unlike Lightning to 30-pin adaptors which are basically tiny protocol droids translating between the two.)

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  6. USB cables are 4 dimensional by oodaloop · · Score: 4, Funny

    Proof that USB cables are 4 dimensional.

    Apologies if this appears twice. It looks like slashdot ate the first attempt.

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    1. Re:USB cables are 4 dimensional by Sockatume · · Score: 5, Informative

      In human society we have this thing called "humour", and one of its functions is to obviate the stress of common irritations by acknowledging them in an ironic or unexpected fashion, such that the next encounter with the irritant brings the joke to mind and is therefore less irksome. If your own society hasn't reached that level of nuance yet I dare say it is you, sir, who is the ape.

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  7. Re:Doesn't Apple have a patent on this? by RDW · · Score: 4, Funny

    Very well designed until you step on one in bare feet, anway.

  8. Re:Apple All Over Again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Good thing we can have adapters. In the EU, micro-USB is required on devices so they will have to keep using the old connector until the law catches up with th enew one...

  9. Re:Barrel connectors on brick power supplies by SJHillman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A lot of times, that's by design. If the laptop is jerked, you'd want it to become disconnected rather than stay plugged in and risk mangling the plug (or worse, the receiving port).

  10. Re:another design cue from apple? by alexandre_ganso · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wrong. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_laptops

    The Apple PowerBook series, introduced in October 1991, pioneered changes that are now de facto standards on laptops, such as room for a palm rest, and the inclusion of a pointing device (a trackball).

  11. What about HDMI by the+eric+conspiracy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The WORST connectors are the trapezoidal HDMI connectors. Not only are they orientation specific, but they are often used on heavy cables that pull on the connector causing it to lose contact, and even bend the pins in the socket.

    Add in the fact that the data rate is like a zillion bytes per second and there is an encryption handshake that must go just right at the start and you have a clusterfuck.

    HDMI connectors seriously need an upgrade.

  12. Re:Doesn't Apple have a patent on this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, they are well designed. Compare to them to the standard EU and US designs which are flimsy, often left to be self-supporting (which they fail at), and have a tendency to just fall out of the sockets in my experience. A UK plug is solid when plugged in, makes an earth connection before a live/neutral connection as it is plugged in, disconnects the live/neutral before the earth is disconnected, and as the poster stated has a shuttered outlet so that the socket is only opened *after* an earth connection has been made. If you think that is a "russian solution" then maybe you think good engineering is communist, and flimsy make do is the american way.

  13. Re:Small Connectors by Megane · · Score: 5, Funny

    I also prefer regular-sized USB because it also fits into an Ethernet jack, so it can take you THREE times to get it right.

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  14. Re:Apple All Over Again by phobos512 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I've no use for a protocol droid. What I do need is someone who can understand the binary language of moisture vaporators.

  15. Re:Wow, what a great idea! by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Oh right, from Apple.

    You mean the Apple who helped pioneer the first USB connector which everyone hates so much. Seriously people have been whining about the USB connector from about day 1 and reversible/rotationally symmetric connectors have existed for even longer.

    To claim Apple "invented" the idea of a reversible USB connector is utterly just plain silly. Even if you claim it is invention to do something blindingly obvious, you'll be disappointed to hear that Nokia's DKU2 cable was (a) reversible (b) carried USB and (c) existed on the 2002 eara Nokia 6100, a full 5 years before even the first generation iPhone and a year before the iPod's reversible connector supported USB.

    So no, it's not an invention and even if it was Nokia had it before Apple.

    Seriously what is it with Apple Fanbois assuming they invented everything? You know it's possible to enjoy their products *without* having to make up random shit about how they did everything first.

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  16. Re:Small Connectors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I greatly prefer regular-sized USB to micro-USB, they sit much better in the slot.

    oh, c'mon, that is SO what she said!

  17. The ancient future awaits! by VortexCortex · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is the fact that the standard USB connection (rectangle) is not really 180 degrees symmetric (despite a shape that indicates it should be), usually takes 3+ attempts to get it in. Damn it, Jim, a spin-1/2 connector!

    Protip: The USB emblem goes "up". The logo is trademarked, and without it the cables are too frustrating to use. An interesting feat of human engineering indeed.

    Now, let us travel through time far enough into the future that we come to appreciate the greatest connector design possible:

    First, consider the connector with zero lines of symmetry, such as USB, or a polarized pronged plug. There is a 2D plane that the connector travels orthogonal to and which it must breech in order to complete a connection docking sequence. Consider this plane slicing through your connector and receptacle's contacts. Note that there is one receptacle surface for one connector pin passing through the docking plane.

    To the Future! Copy and rotate your receptor 180 degrees in place along the docking plane. Eliminate any conflicting isolation surfaces, and move the pins such that they do not interact with each the other's connection surfaces. Now you have a reversible connector with one line of symmetry in the receptacle. The connector pins can occupy both sets of receptacle contact surfaces, but need only occupy one position to complete the electrical circuits.

    Advance! Now we will perform the same step again, but with a 90 degree increment. Behold! A square connector!

    60 degrees? Hexagonal connectors! Note that just imagining it we can nearly taste the hex filled future!

    Onward, to 45 degrees, and to victory! Octagonal connections even mirror our futurist desire to slice the corners from our square UI windows, and tabs.

    Oh integration, you foul beast. Clearly to see furthest into the future we must have infinite lines of symmetry in our docking plane -- BUT HOW?! With all pins occupying all positions across the USB connector, the left side interacts with the right side. Since connector pins need only exist in one position we need only make the connector pins have zero lines of symmetry -- move all the connector pins to one side. Simultaneously we have a perfectly round receptacle -- Ah, but all intersecting isolation surfaces are removed, this leaves us with only a flat ring of contacts and several pins.

    So, now we will enter a new Dimension! We can stretch the docking plane in the 3rd dimension along the orthogonal connection axis! BEHOLD! We have discovered the most futuristic connector of all time! The Head Phone Jack!

    Now, what's old can finally be new again. Story time is over, now get off my lawn.

  18. Things you do in the dark by Guppy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The process goes something like: gently push. Doesn't work. wiggle a bit. Still doesn't work. Flip over and try again. Neither of those work either. Then repeat a little bit harder until eventually it goes in or breaks.

    Wait, we're still talking about USB ports here, right?