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Gov't Puts Witness On No Fly List, Then Denies Having Done So

cathyreisenwitz sends word of a San Francisco trial in which the U.S. government appears to be manipulating the no-fly list to its advantage. The court case involves a Stanford Ph.D. student who was barred from returning to the U.S. after visiting her native Malaysia. She's one of roughly 700,000 people on the no-fly list. Here's the sketchy part: the woman's eldest daughter, who was born in the U.S. and is a U.S. citizen, was called as a witness for the trial. Unfortunately, she mysteriously found herself on the no-fly list as well, and wasn't able to board a plane to come to the trial. Lawyers for the Department of Justice told the court that she simply missed her plane, but she was able to provide documents from the airline explaining that the Department of Homeland Security was not allowing her to fly.

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  1. Re:No popcorn yet by StinkiePhish · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He has to do this in order to allow the document into evidence. Once it is authenticated and otherwise admissible, he can rely on it for any decision he will make. If he decided to go rogue and not follow the Federal Rules of Evidence, then the government could easily prevail on any appeal. In other words, the judge isn't being difficult to be difficult; he is doing it because he does not want to be overturned.

  2. Re:Let's see what the judge says... by niftymitch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Another question. Can't the judge summarily rule against the government since they wouldn't allow the person to testify? Essentially they've denied a fair trial and he could just drop the hammer.

    It is a good thing I am not a member of the bar...

    I think you are wondering if he can dismiss the case....
        Yes he can.
    I am wondering if he can dismiss the case with prejudice so it cannot be refiled.
        I hope he can.

    I am wondering if he can incarcerate the entire prosecution team
    for contempt of court.
        I hope he does if it is clear that they tampered with witnesses.

    It is a federal crime to tamper with witnesses and conspiracy amplifies
    the reach of the crime.

    The recent revelation of a false conviction based on withheld evidence
    by the prosecution makes me want to see 4x penalty. The man spent
    25 some years in jail. Those that knew should be locked up for 100 years
    and have their lives turned inside out. Abuse of power is difficult
    to tolerate.

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  3. Re:Southwest.. by ultranova · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Nazi regime didn't last long, but the East German government lasted for about 45 years.

    The Nazi regime didn't last long, because it started war after war until it was everyone's enemy - sounds familiar? And East German government lasted for 45 years because it had the backing of a greater power, and fell pretty much instantly when that backing failed.

    Anyway, the US doesn't really resemble either. Nazis and Communists were ideology-based tyrants, while the US looks more like a failing state: the economy continues getting worse, everyone loots as much of the pie as they can to themselves and their friends, tribalism rises, the state tries to compensate with ever-increasing internal security (both surveillance and "though" penalties), the rulers mostly live in and react to their own little world... It's the standard "rot from the inside" pattern of collapse, with the "blinded by past glories" flavour.

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    Forget magic. Any technology distinguishable from divine power is insufficiently advanced.