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About 25% of HealthCare.gov Applications Have Errors

itwbennett writes "An estimated one in four user applications sent from HealthCare.gov to insurance providers have errors introduced by the website, an official with the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services said during a press briefing Friday. The errors include missing forms, duplicate forms and incorrect information in the applications, such as wrong information about an applicant's marital status, said Julie Bataille, communications director for HHS Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS). While the software bugs leading to the errors have largely been fixed, as many as 10 percent of insurance applications may still have errors and consumers who have used HealthCare.gov to buy insurance and have concerns that their applications haven't been processed or have errors should contact their insurers, Bataille said."

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  1. If you like your errors by Cornwallis · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can keep your errors.

    Period.

  2. Data In, Garbage Out by davide+marney · · Score: 4, Informative

    By this point, I think people generally understand that Healthcare.gov is to be avoided if at all possible. This system of systems is a monster (reportedly 500 million lines of code at 60-70% completion), and it's probably too big to test -- testing might take longer than it took to write, i.e., the QA death spiral.

    The only reason to use the exchange is to get a subsidy. If you are a normal taxpayer who won't qualify for one, go off-exchange.

    Or, join a religious health care pool, which are medical cost-sharing plans that are exempt from the law.

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    1. Re:Data In, Garbage Out by ganjadude · · Score: 3, Informative

      really?because I am going to have to pay 2X more for a plan that is about 1/2 as good as what I had prior.

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  3. Re: Human error by sumdumass · · Score: 5, Informative

    An estimated one in four user applications sent from the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services' HealthCare.gov to insurance providers have errors introduced by the website,

    Introduced by the website seems to imply they are because of the website. Both the article and summery say that.

    Now from what I have been told, you don't fill out specific forms. You enter specific information into the website and it fills the forms out for you based on the plans you pick. It is supposed to stop you from filling forms out incorrectly or getting confused on wording and so on. It also allows you to do direct comparisons without having to fill 20 forms out for 10 different providers offering 2 plans each.

  4. Re:Compared to what? by swb · · Score: 3, Informative

    I've only had to fill out paper health care forms a couple of times, but it's really easy to see how those confusing monsters can be filled out erroneously by the form filler, and then of course there are the transcription problems when forms get computer entered, either by drones in a coding center or by HR people.

    What's wrong with this in comparison though, is that when the end-user uses a web site you would assume there is error checking of form logic (ie, if I fill box A and B it should be able to tell if I need to fill out box C). There's still the problem of factual error by the user but that's harder to detect.

    The problem here though seems to be the data stored is erroneous due to problems with the code, not due to user error.

  5. They seem to have their priorities correct by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The healthcare.gov website is being maligned more than it deserves to be. Buying healthcare is not going to be as easy as buying iTunes, or even booking hotels. Further it did not have the option of growing slowly with extensive beta period. How many years Gmail was in beta, don't we remember? Add to it the complexities of providing subsidy, that requires income verification, that requires ... And the majority of the users it targets are from the demographic that is least likely to be familiar with internet and least likely to be educated.

    We don't have to excuse them, we can demand they anticipate these things and provide for it. They seems to have an idea of these issues, with their plans to create a cadre of "navigators" to help people with internet access and web site help. But the plan and law was heavily politicized, 36 states refused to set up their own exchanges and dumped all of them on the federal exchange. Millions of people who would have gone to medicaid are dumped into exchanges because they refused to expand medicaid.

    No doubt there were self inflicted wounds. Politicians scared of people getting sticker shock, insisted on disabling the window shop and see full price option at roll out, That was the root cause of disaster. The first thing the "tech surge" did was to enable window shopping. It was enabled as early as Oct 15, I tested it then, They could not have done it that soon if it was fresh code. Window shopping was the original code, They just disabled the meddling by the politicians and went on the original code path.

    Still they are doing it in the right order. Get people to commit to a plan before the dead line. Errors on the back end can be sorted out when they actually file claims,

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    1. Re:They seem to have their priorities correct by Oligonicella · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But the plan and law was heavily politicized

      Yes sir, it was. Remember "We'll have to pass the law to see what's in it"? After that, every excuse is moot.

      Half a billion dollars.

    2. Re:They seem to have their priorities correct by kesj · · Score: 3, Interesting

      According to the Boston Globe this morning, Massachusetts' (you know the state that was the model for the PPACA) Health Connector website has not enrolled a single person since it was revamped to support Obamacare at a cost of $69 million. The entire infrastructure to support the PPACA is apparently riddled with problems that impact not only healthcare.gov but the sites created by states that choose to implement their own. In Massachusetts, 100,000 people have been told their insurance which was in compliance with the state's Minimum Credible Coverage standard aren't good enough now and they need to choose a new health insurance through the non-functional site as the Governor Patrick's administration is not allowing them to remain on their existing policies.

    3. Re:They seem to have their priorities correct by davide+marney · · Score: 3, Informative

      Still they are doing it in the right order. Get people to commit to a plan before the dead line

      I think you've missed the point about having a 25% error rate. That means 25% of the people who used the exchange will have thought they selected a plan, but in reality, they didn't. They may think they have insurance, but don't.

      So, the correct order would be to do the backend first, which makes sure that people actually get insurance, then fix the pretty front end. Fixing the pretty front end first actually makes things worse because it increases the number of people who will be hurt by the errors.

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  6. Half a Billion Dollars In, Garbage Out by Oligonicella · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This post is the best example of an apologist with no logic or facts for backup.

    No. They awarded a known incompetent company with a record of bad projects with a non-compete contract. Then they paid them ONE HALF OF A BILLION DOLLARS for a shitty website and aren't asking for a fucking refund.

  7. Don't use the website by BringsApples · · Score: 3, Informative

    I waited until the last minute because 'fuck the government' right? But when I did call, I got a really nice lady that walked me through the whole process in less than 30 minutes. They basically ask you the questions from the forms (the forms are also available to fill out yourself and mail in. Forms link, and instructions link)

    I have a family of 4 and we'll end up paying $74.00 per month for Blue Cross Silver plan. It's better than what I have right now through Blue Cross, and I've been paying $400 a month for it.

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    1. Re:Don't use the website by davide+marney · · Score: 3, Insightful

      OK, you're a "winner" in the health care insurance lottery, congratulations. But realize that the rest of us are the "losers" who are paying not just the cost of our health insurance, but part of yours, too.

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  8. Re:Republicans are in tough situation. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is true the Republicans do have a job on their hands trying to raise votes by "not purchasing them with other peoples money".