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Affordable 3D Metal Printer Developed Based on RepRap

hypnosec writes "Researchers have developed and open-sourced a low-cost 3D metal printer capable of printing metal tools and objects that can be build for under £1,000. A team of researchers led by Associate Professor Joshua Pearce at the Michigan Technological University developed the firmware and the plans for the printer and have made it available freely. The open source 3D printer is definitely a huge leap forward as the starting price of commercial counterparts is around £300,000. Pearce claimed that their technology will not only allow smaller companies and start-ups to build inexpensive prototypes, but it will allow other scientists and researchers to build tools and objects required for their research without having to shell out thousands, and could be used to print parts for machines such as windmills." It's a modified RepRap; looks like we're getting closer to the RepRap being able to print all of its parts.

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  1. Piracy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    You wouldn't download a car........?

  2. Re:Maki box @ US$300 by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    printrbot simple is 300 bucks too.

    but really, it doesn't print metal. metal depositing printer by some means that works is a big deal even if you can get a crappy cnc that does metal somewhat for 1000-3000 bucks.

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  3. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by El+Puerco+Loco · · Score: 5, Insightful

    More like the wingnuts who attempt to print their own guns will end up disarming, or at least dishanding themselves.

  4. 3D printed guns. by bejiitas_wrath · · Score: 2

    This will be the next thing demonised in the media, even though the technology has many positive benefits in terms of manufacturing. But after printing the object do you still need to trim it and sand it down? Maybe you print it slightly oversize and then trim it down to smooth it out. What is the exact finishing process with this tech?

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    1. Re:3D printed guns. by felrom · · Score: 5, Informative

      The demonization has been going on for a while. Here's an article from almost a year ago: http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/01/18/meet-steve-israel-the-congressman-who-wants-to-ban-3d-printable-guns-qa/

      Steve Israel wants to ban your access to 3d printers, and he's using guns as a way to get the camel's nose under the tent. Here are some particularly telling quotes from the interview in the story linked above:

      What we’re trying to do is make it clear that if you choose to construct a weapon or weapon component using a 3D printer, and it’s homemade, you’ll be subject to penalties.

      Catch that? If you're a business, doing it for commercial gain, then he thinks it's okay. If you're the little guy, doing it as a hobby, then simply doing it even if no one ever gets hurt will get you sent to jail.

      Steve Israel: But if you’re going to download a blueprint for a plastic weapon that can be brought onto an airplane, there’s a penalty to be paid.

      Interviewer: Just for downloading it?

      Steve Israel: No, no, for actually manufacturing it. And we’re not even going after manufacturers, either, but lone wolves, individuals.

      Again there, if you're a business he's fine. If you're an individual, it's banned. He even slips and admits he want to criminalize the sharing of the information.

      So we’re talking to stakeholders, and working to create a distinction between that lone wolf and legitimate manufacturers of plastic clips.

      Make no mistake: the forces working to ban private ownership of 3d printers are already moving against you. The bogey man of undetectable guns is simply a convenient way to get people on board with the first step of restriction. Once that's in place another big-business congressman will come back and say, "Poor GM is losing money because it can't sell overpriced factory parts because people are just printing them. Ban all private 3d printer ownership!"

      The only thing in question is how many people will be fooled and take up the torch and pitchfork against 3d printed guns, not realizing that they're working against their own desire to have privately owned 3d printing technology. As is commonly the case, the fight for gun rights is only a microcosm in the larger fight for natural and civil rights. You want 3d printers? You're going to have to fight to protect 3d printed guns. You want marijuana legalized? You're going to have to fight for private ownership of machine guns. You want to continue to be free from poll taxes? You're going to have to support repealing the NFA.

      Issues of law and politics don't each exist in separate vacuums.

  5. Cue by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 2

    Cue Trinity in a long leather coat sitting behind a desk starting a printer.

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  6. This can't come about fast enough by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I first tried laser sintering 5 years ago - I got a few steel gun parts custom-made by a "printing" company, then mounted the parts in a real gun and got the proofhouse to shoot it until it died. I was working for a certain very well known luxury gunmaker at the time, and we were investigating new ways of producing parts in very small volume.

    The laser sintered parts were as good as, or better than the original parts! And the prices are great too: we paid per cm3 of material "printed", which worked at at just under $900 for a receiver, as opposed to $7500 for the equivalent part machined with conventional tools.

    I've known since then that this is the future of metalworking. As a result, I've been holding off upgrading the lathe and the milling machine in my workshop, because I've been waiting for a metal-building machine that doesn't cost a quarter million bucks.

    This $1000 thing probably won't be it, but the next generation machines, or the generations after them, will. At last!

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    1. Re:This can't come about fast enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      This isn't laser sintering. Its using a MIG welder like a plastic 3D printer uses filament.

    2. Re:This can't come about fast enough by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

      The laser sintered parts were as good as, or better than the original parts!

      But does that mean that the sintered parts were good, or that the originals are shit? You haven't given us enough information (make, model, caliber, and year of firearm to start with, not to mention the actual parts) to make this determination ourselves.

      I'm only skeptical because "powder metal" (large-volume sintering) is shit. A PM conn rod for a 7.3 powerstroke is twice as likely to fail and has 1/10 as desirable a failure mode as the forged part; it's ten times more likely to break rather than simply bending.

      This $1000 thing probably won't be it, but the next generation machines, or the generations after them, will. At last!

      This certainly isn't it, because it's using a MIG welder. This is a traditional metal deposition process, using a 3d printer for positioning.

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    3. Re:This can't come about fast enough by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But does that mean that the sintered parts were good, or that the originals are shit? You haven't given us enough information (make, model, caliber, and year of firearm to start with, not to mention the actual parts) to make this determination ourselves.

      Well, I can't give you any specifics (make/model) or I'd reveal whom I worked for, and I'm under a non-disclosure agreement.

      But here's an example of what I experienced with the sintered metal:

      I took a test side-by-side 12 cal which had silver-brazed demi block barrels made of high-quality Bohler steel. I had a lock printed. All we did to the lock was polish it a bit to achieve perfect fit in the receiver, when we shot the gun repeatedly in double-shot with proofhouse loads (+30% powder). At some point, a rather massive 2-mm disjunction occured at the breech. We figured the lock's metal had given way. In fact it was the barrel's lugs that had flattened themselves onto the lock, and the lock itself was just fine. We were really amazed!

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    4. Re:This can't come about fast enough by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Interesting, but still not clear why the failure occurred.

      A very quick browse of available literature (VERY) suggests that laser sintering produces a very fine crystal structure, which suggests that the laser-sintered metal will have the same problem as other types of sintered metal. That fine crystal structure is inferior to a large grain structure. Parts will snap instead of bending when they do finally fail if sintered as compared to forged, or machined from forged billet.

      Still cool for prototyping, and lots of parts. I'd rather have laser-sintered parts in my gun than traditional powder metal. I'd rather have parts made from forged billet than either.

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    5. Re:This can't come about fast enough by mpoulton · · Score: 3, Informative

      12 cal? Yeah, your story checks out! /s

      For you edification, the firearm he is describing appears to be a very high-end double rifle, in "12 bore" size (0.739"). That is a dangerous game rifle, and may well cost over $100,000.

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  7. Re:Maki box @ US$300 by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    http://makibox.com/
    I've yet not tried it but not heard any major disasters.

    Based on your very thorough review of this product, I'm seriously considering ordering one.

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  8. Re:Does it actually print, or does it cut? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Its a MIG welder with a moving base plate. This means the resolution will be quite poor (like 4-5mm wide draw path) and you will need to print onto a metal plate/base and then cut it off after if required. Despite its limitations it is an interesting concept.

  9. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Either the US government rapidly steps in to quash or severely-restrict this technology in the US or their plans to disarm the US population will die stillborn.

    If you knew anything about guns, you'd know it only takes a few basic tools and materials to make a functional gun that goes bang without killing its user. You don't need a 3D printer. There's no way to disarm anybody in any circumstances.

    I love the smell of dying government tyranny in the morning.

    Wishful thinking... It's not the lack of guns that keeps your tyrannical government in place, it's the lack of courage in a population that has turned bovine, uneducated, and more interested in shopping and watching reality shows on TV than in fighting for liberty and moral principles.

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  10. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Either the US government rapidly steps in to quash or severely-restrict this technology in the US or their plans to disarm the US population will die stillborn.

    If you knew anything about guns, you'd know it only takes a few basic tools and materials to make a functional gun that goes bang without killing its user. You don't need a 3D printer. There's no way to disarm anybody in any circumstances.

    I love the smell of dying government tyranny in the morning.

    Wishful thinking... It's not the lack of guns that keeps your tyrannical government in place, it's the lack of courage in a population that has turned bovine, uneducated, and more interested in shopping and watching reality shows on TV than in fighting for liberty and moral principles.

    It's kind of funny that Americans with all their guns seems to have a more tyrannical government than countries with fewer guns but a lot more political engagement from the population.

  11. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by gl4ss · · Score: 2

    dying government tyranny? did it die when full auto weapons were legal to buy in USA? no?

    you really think it's just a matter of weapons? fuck no it isn't. not at all. most people just don't want to revolt, stopping government tyranny is first and foremost a political problem of mobilizing people to your cause, arming them is easy.

    you think they're going to ban bicycle shops and hotrod shops full of 5 axis cnc's and cnc lathes? ban vocational colleges? ban drills and metal stock? but why the fuck would you bother even with those when you could go visit your neighborhood gang to buy the guns. does having guns help them from government interference? not really, no..

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  12. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's kind of funny that Americans with all their guns seems to have a more tyrannical government than countries with fewer guns but a lot more political engagement from the population.

    That's because most Americans have added two boxes to the four boxes of liberty: the ice box and the idiot box. And they seem to have stopped using the four others.

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  13. Re:Sigh. by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll be more impressed when it's capable of printing a vaccuum tube...

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  14. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by BlueStrat · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you knew anything about guns, you'd know it only takes a few basic tools and materials to make a functional gun that goes bang without killing its user. You don't need a 3D printer. There's no way to disarm anybody in any circumstances.

    I do know something about guns and about metal machining and fabrication work. Making a Sten is dead-simple. Heck, I've got the plans.

    You're correct that between the staggering number of guns that already exist in the US (and the majority of rifles & shotguns never having been registered) combined with the ease with which a gun that's at least good enough to get an enemy's gun is to make conventionally, it seems pretty impractical in the short term.

    However, there's "simple" for some people and then there's "simple" for everybody else. It's dead-simple *IF* you have a lathe, drill press, sheet metal brake, and maybe a mill depending, along with multiple other ancillary tools and pieces of equipment like an arbor press.

    *AND* you *also* have the requisite training, skills, & experience to operate that fabricating equipment well enough to produce more than a modern-art piece or a way to assure that you never need worry if you lose one of your mittens and/or your sunglasses. It's not a trivial skill set in the least.

    The difference here is that you basically only need the printer instead of a pole-barn full of expensive machine tools, plus you don't need any advanced machining & metal fabrication skills or training to fabricate high-quality components.

    The printer/software and the plan file supplies the majority of the training, experience, and skills otherwise necessary, while replacing multiple expensive pieces of metal working & fabrication equipment while also requiring less space. More like residential garage/shed/basement-size instead of pole-barn size.

    A metal printer would also be a much more practical solution in the city. The printer is also far more portable than a bunch of machine shop equipment. It can be relatively quickly moved between locations and concealed compared to normal tooling.

    Wishful thinking... It's not the lack of guns that keeps your tyrannical government in place, it's the lack of courage in a population that has turned bovine, uneducated, and more interested in shopping and watching reality shows on TV than in fighting for liberty and moral principles.

    I agree. However, I'm hopeful that people are beginning to wake the hell up. I haven't seen the current levels and breadth of dissatisfaction and anger with government since the '60s/'70s, nor anywhere near the current numbers of people who seriously think the government needs to spend less and have fewer powers, and are actively getting involved and doing something about it.

    When was the last time you remember *this* happening?

    http://conventionofstates.com/

    There may yet still be hope. Especially if you consider it was only about 10% of the colonists at the time who were actively for the US Revolutionary War and independence from England.

    Can we scrape up 10% with a brain and a spine these days? Who knows. We'll find out, I guess.

    Maybe the concept of free men governing themselves by common agreement dies here forever, technology guaranteeing the jackboot continues forever grinding the human face underfoot.

    Maybe humans need another few 10, 20, or 100s of thousands...maybe even millions...of years of evolutionary advancement before mankind is ready to leave kings, dictators, tyranny, and authoritarianism behind us.

    Strat

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  15. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by necro81 · · Score: 2

    However, there's "simple" for some people and then there's "simple" for everybody else. It's dead-simple *IF* you have a lathe, drill press, sheet metal brake, and maybe a mill depending, along with multiple other ancillary tools and pieces of equipment like an arbor press.

    *AND* you *also* have the requisite training, skills, & experience to operate that fabricating equipment well enough to produce more than a modern-art piece or a way to assure that you never need worry if you lose one of your mittens and/or your sunglasses. It's not a trivial skill set in the least.

    The difference here is that you basically only need the printer instead of a pole-barn full of expensive machine tools, plus you don't need any advanced machining & metal fabrication skills or training to fabricate high-quality components.

    This machine they are touting is a MIG welder on a 3-axis stage. Whatever it makes will be a large pile of weld bead. Just how good of a gun do you think you could make with that? (Or most any part, for that matter.) The number of finish operations required will be long and arduous - and require most of the machine tools and skills you've just mentioned. You may as well start with billet.

    Maybe a low-cost metal 3D printer will come along that makes it "simple for everybody else," but this one sure ain't that.

  16. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by MrNaz · · Score: 2, Informative
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  17. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by RabidReindeer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's kind of funny that Americans with all their guns seems to have a more tyrannical government than countries with fewer guns but a lot more political engagement from the population.

    There are times when I think the whole 2nd Amendment thing may be doing us more harm than good. We don't take political action when we should because if things get too bad we can just haul out our guns.

    Except that by the time guns are the best or only solution, we've already lost pretty much everything anyhow. And who (aside from fantasists) really want a life that's basically nothing but guerilla warfare against tanks and drones?

  18. Re:Recursive self printers near at hand? by RabidReindeer · · Score: 2

    Right now I am imagining a bug that causes a self-printing printer to go out of control, so that the printers keeps printing printers that keep printing printers that keep ...

    Cue up Paul Dukas. Bomp-de-bomp-de-bomp-de-bompitty...

  19. Re:Sigh. by JanneM · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'll be more impressed when it's capable of printing a vaccuum tube...

    Printing a metal-shelled tube shouldn't be that hard.

    Printing the vacuum, on the other hand.

    Attach a small fan to it as an air-printing attachment, then turn the power plug 180 degrees so it runs backwards. Do I really have to think of everything around here?

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  20. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by Sique · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I can't remember one event in the history of the U.S. where guns in the hand of little people made the U.S. government rethink their policies and withdraw some legislation, measures or orders. Care to elaborate?

    (But I can cite several events where voting ballots in the hands of little people made the U.S. government to either change policies or itself.)

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  21. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It worked precisely once - when the US government was the British government.

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  22. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by NormalVisual · · Score: 2

    Why would you print bullets when lead casting is so cheap and easy? The real sticking point is the availability of primers. You can make your own, but it's labor-intensive and there are some substantial safety issues involved.

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  23. Cause and effect reversed. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You got cause and effect reversed. There are thousands of places in the world where anyone can buy/own any kind of weapon one wants. Most of them have crappy standard of living. Just look how many times guns were used against tyranny that produced enduring democracies instead of next set of tyrants? How many times freedom of expression against oppressors liberated people and created enduring democracies? Guns are the tools are up-and-coming tyrants against existing tyrants.

    The freedom of expression, used by people willing to suffer the consequences of standing up to tyrants, their ability to inspire millions of ordinary people to rise up against tyranny is what creates a thriving democracy with great standard of living. That is when warrior wannabes like you strut around claiming to be the cause. You are the effect, not the cause, of the first amendment.

    Trying your "second amendment solutions" against a lawfully elected government of the USA is rebellion, and it is constitutional for the government to put such insurrection using any means necessary. If the government is restrained it is because of the first amendment rights of people who would speak up against heavy handed tactics by the government. Definitely not because of your puny little glocks, brownings or bushmasters. Our army had been battling AK-47s and IEDs for ages now buddy, you don't stand a chance against our army. You are able to trash talk, only because we restrain our government against taking overt and open actions against US Citizens.

    Just look around you. People who used guns to overthrow tyrants became tyrants themselves. People who spoke out and inspired ordinary people to rise up against tyranny created enduring democracies. Only in such democracies crazy wingnuts are able to run around waving their guns thinking they somehow are the protection against tyranny.

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    1. Re:Cause and effect reversed. by csumpi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You got cause and effect reversed.

      You got the whole point missed. Right to bear is not medicine. It's vaccine.

    2. Re:Cause and effect reversed. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 2

      You got the whole point missed. Right to bear is not medicine. It's vaccine.

      Very funny, probably true too. Vaccines are just viruses rendered impotent. Glad you agree you guys are just armed thugs rendered impotent.

      You are free to dwell in your realms of fantasy. Right to bear arms is constitutional in USA, and if it provides you some solace and some way to compensate for your feelings of inadequacy, go ahead, buy all the guns you can afford and even pretend you are somehow a liberator.

      And we will protect your rights too.

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    3. Re:Cause and effect reversed. by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

      Most 20th century "tyrannies" took power with the support of an armed general population.

      Hitler famously banned guns, but what people don't mention is that he only banned guns for Jews, while restrictions for the population in general were relaxed— and this, more than five years after he took power. How could it have been any other way? Before World War II, the SA and SS were nothing more than private citizens engaged in gun clubs with very spiffy outfits. Radical authoritarian governments, from the French Revolution on, have needed the help of armed popular movements in order to disrupt normal political process and intimidate resistance. These movements are pointedly at-will, quasi-organized assemblies of people acting of their own free will who want to kill their neighbors. And while these movements would possibly coordinate with elements of the government, they were never subordinate to it, and authoritarian governments are constantly trying (and failing) to rein in their own hit squads.

      Gun control laws in the general case don't seem to correlate with tyranny, it's only when certain classes of people are armed while others are not (wether by law or otherwise) that we've historically seen problems.

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  24. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by BlueStrat · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can't remember one event in the history of the U.S. where guns in the hand of little people made the U.S. government rethink their policies and withdraw some legislation, measures or orders. Care to elaborate?

    Here you go.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens_(1946)

    "The Battle of Athens (sometimes called the McMinn County War) was a rebellion led by citizens in Athens and Etowah, Tennessee, United States, against the local government in August 1946. The citizens, including some World War II veterans, accused the local officials of political corruption and voter intimidation."

    You're welcome.

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  25. Fundamental problem by rasmusbr · · Score: 2

    "...looks like we're getting closer to the RepRap being able to print all of its parts."

    Sure, assuming it can print an Millermatic 140 arc welder and an Arduino.

    Look, nature has already solved this problem, so we know something about the complexity and difficulty involved. We have cows that print milk and copies of themselves, chickens than print eggs and copies of themselves, grass that prints grain and copies of itself, etc. These things consists of millions of cells, each about as intelligent as an Arduino. Good luck creating something like that with a few hundred parts!

    1. Re:Fundamental problem by ColdWetDog · · Score: 2

      "A horse can make other horses, that is a trick that bulldozers haven't figured out yet."

                Heinlein

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  26. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

    He's talking about the people who use a $300 printrbot to try to print a zip gun, which then proceeds to blow up in their hand like a cheap firework.

    These are the same geniuses that kill/injure/maim themselves and others and destroy homes and property every single day doing things like putting a frozen turkey into a gas burner heated deep-fryer full of hot cooking oil, and uncountable numbers of other equally idiotic and extremely dangerous actions and worse.

    You can't fix stupid by trying to idiot-proof the world. It's not possible, it cannot work, and it unfairly curtails everyone else's choices and freedoms.

    Darwin gots' to get paid, yo.

    Strat

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  27. Side Show and a Game Changer by sycodon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With this technology, guns will be a side show. Yes, people will make them and there will be much bloviation about that, but the real impact will be on local economies.

    Open any phone book or Google for any city, "machine shop"; there will be hundreds. They are the foundation of any kind of manufacturing economy. My company deals with at least 20 different shops, parceling out work to meet shipping deadlines and lower costs. When this technology matures to the point where it is as ubiquitous as a CNC mill or lathe, you will see turn around times crash and labor shift from skilled machinists to skilled CAD engineers (good or bad...you decide). It's conceivable that the actual making of a part becomes almost a lights out operation.

    Hang on to your hats, this will be a game changer in the world economy.

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    1. Re:Side Show and a Game Changer by garyebickford · · Score: 2

      Jet engine makers have made and tested (successfully) titanium turbine blades using additive manufacturing. Tolerances for those blades is on the order of 0.0001". I assume there must be some final fitting and polishing but they're not talking. And NASA funded a project that successfully built and tested a small rocket motor. The rocket motor was made in one piece, replacing a fabricated item that had many pieces. The time and cost to make it were both less than 10% of the old method.

      IOW, companies are presently builing 3D printed parts and systems that are as good or better than equivalent high-precision parts.

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    2. Re:Side Show and a Game Changer by occasional_dabbler · · Score: 2

      I am one. I do this. It's a tiny fucking deal because the cost of a failed experiment is still in the millions and beleive me, the guy making the tool die makes a thousand times fewer errors than any engineer younger than fifty does in his CAD. You do not work in my industry, obviously.

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  28. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by internerdj · · Score: 2

    Interesting statistic that came out this thanksgiving was that deep frying a turkey is more likely to kill you than a shark attack...

  29. Re:Guns...Lots Of Guns by niado · · Score: 2

    The so-called "Battle of Athens" was not an armed insurrection against the US Government - it was an armed encounter vs. a, by all accounts, extremely corrupt local government whose activities seemed to mirror that of a small organized crime conglomerate.

    There were no US government forces involved, nor was the national guard mobilized by the Governor of Tennessee.