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Africa, Clooney, and an Unlikely Space Race

MightyMait writes "There's a plan underway to build a space agency run by African nations, and there is a (non-fictional) George Clooney connection. This BBC article details the history of space exploration in Africa as well as current efforts. Quoting: 'To Western eyes, it may seem rather inappropriate to launch space programs in sub-Saharan Africa, where nearly 70% of the population still lives on less $2 a day. Yet Joseph Akinyede, director of the African Regional Center for Space Science and Technology Education in Nigeria, an education center affiliated with the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs, says that the application of space science technology and research to "basic necessities" of life – health, education, energy, food security, environmental management – is critical for the development of the continent.'"

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  1. send Clooney to space by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Good, it's about time someone did some non-fictional space travel. Might as well be Clooney.

    1. Re:send Clooney to space by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

      No actual space travel, just the heartwarming story of how the guy with the life-threatening cardiac defect subverted screening procedures in order to endanger the entire mission, and all his crewmates, on a months-long journey to some other planet in the solar system.

      It's a triumph of the human spirit, or something.

    2. Re:send Clooney to space by TrekkieGod · · Score: 3, Informative

      No actual space travel, just the heartwarming story of how the guy with the life-threatening cardiac defect subverted screening procedures in order to endanger the entire mission, and all his crewmates, on a months-long journey to some other planet in the solar system. It's a triumph of the human spirit, or something.

      That's a misunderstanding of the story. Vincent likely didn't have a heart condition. He got discriminated his entire life because his genetic profile said his DNA indicated he had a 99% probability of developing a fatal heart condition. He could be the 1 person in 100 with that DNA marker who never develops said heart condition, but in their society nobody was willing to give him a chance.

      What he did was legitimately endure GATTACA's physical tests, spend an entire childhood swimming out farther and farther away from shore with his brother, and beat his life expectancy of 30.2 years. Everything indicating he had no health problems.

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    3. Re:send Clooney to space by chihowa · · Score: 2

      Vincent likely didn't have a heart condition.

      I thought the treadmill scene, where his erratic heartbeat plays instead of the 'metronome' and he runs to the locker room clutching his chest, was supposed to show that he actually did have a heart condition.

      Human spirit and all, I think the mushroom was right. At the very least, he was living on borrowed time. Not cool.

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  2. Joseph Akinyede by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I am Joseph Akinyede, director of the African Regional Center for Space Science and Technology Education in Nigeria.

    Having consulted with my colleagues and based on the information gathered from the Nigerian Chambers Of Commerce And Industry, I have the privilege to request your assistance to transfer the sum of $47,500,000.00 (forty seven million, five hundred thousand United States dollars) into your accounts. The above sum resulted from an over-invoiced contract, executed, commissioned and paid for about five years (5) ago by a foreign contractor. This action was however intentional and since then the fund has been in a suspense account at The Central Bank Of Nigeria Apex Bank.

    We are now ready to transfer the fund overseas and that is where you come in. It is important to inform you that as civil servants, we are forbidden to operate a foreign account; that is why we require your assistance. The total sum will be shared as follows: 70% for us, 25% for you and 5% for local and international expenses incidental to the transfer.

    The transfer is risk free on both sides. I am an accountant with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation (NNPC). If you find this proposal acceptable, we shall require the following documents:

    (a) your banker's name, telephone, account and fax numbers.

    (b) your private telephone and fax numbers —for confidentiality and easy communication.

    (c) your letter-headed paper stamped and signed.

    Alternatively we will furnish you with the text of what to type into your letter-headed paper, along with a breakdown explaining, comprehensively what we require of you. The business will take us thirty (30) working days to accomplish.

    Please reply urgently.

    Best regards,

  3. Agreed with Akinyede by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    When you have tens of millions in abject poverty, a few billions won't change their fate. Better to use it to advance your technological prowess and the spill over from that can eventually help the poor.

    1. Re:Agreed with Akinyede by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      More specifically where it can help is in job creation. Where do you spend those billions? If you import resources and labour it's not going to help you, but if it's all spent at home (and Africa has plenty of resources and labour awaiting training) you're pumping a lot of money into the market while pulling people out of poverty. Those people then have more to spend which means the rest of the economy gets a boost. The problem Africa has had until now is very little investment and what there is (mining etc) tends to be exploiting their resources for the gain of foreign companies, so they haven't seen that happen before. I don't know whether it'll work as well has they hope, but I can certainly follow their reasoning.

    2. Re:Agreed with Akinyede by Cryacin · · Score: 2

      Um... no... See "Broken window fallacy"

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    3. Re: Agreed with Akinyede by JWW · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is not the broken window fallicy. They don't have any windows to break.

      It's not like they had functioning rockets and threw them out so they could fix them.

    4. Re: Agreed with Akinyede by JWW · · Score: 2

      That's not what the broken window fallacy is about.

      Its not about generalized government spending. It about breaking things that are fine to spur on stimulus by spending money to fix the things that were broken.

    5. Re: Agreed with Akinyede by MightyYar · · Score: 2

      They aren't talking about pissing money away. They are investing in infrastructure that does not yet exist. Infrastructure spending often brings multiple returns on investment. If the US passed a bill to spend a 100 billion dollars repairing bridges and tunnels, it would not be an example of "the broken window fallacy".

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  4. No, do not believe him! by cripkd · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guys, this is a scam, do NOT reply to him!
    Mr Joseph Akinyede, if that's your real name, I have already contacted the police and they are on their way!

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    1. Re:No, do not believe him! by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      I'm the real Joseph and this guys spamming is making it hard for me to find a contractor for my Sub Saharan Space Rocket(SSSR) program that I have been given the budget of 50 million dollars (50.000.000 US$) for.

      If you can find someone to pay the Tender Fee of ten thousand dollars(10,000 $US) for the Liberian Aegis Bank Limited fees regarding this budget, we are authorized to pay you a maximum consulting fee(tax free under provision 123 of the SSSR contracting contract) of 650 000£ into an account of your choosing.

      Please Contact as soon as possible, PO BOX 87877676(Road Twelve, Staden 1, 00300 Sweden).

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    2. Re:No, do not believe him! by khallow · · Score: 2

      It's totally not a scam. He used three significant digits!

  5. Great for African telco prices by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This will be very positive for regional telco prices. As more efforts like Regional African Satellite Communication Organization (RASCOM) move forward, Africa will enjoy much lower call cost and more bandwidth.
    As Ethiopian jet maintenance shows, Africa will enjoy the benifits of its own space science technology advancements over time.

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  6. Re:Space exploration is critical for Africa now? by flyingfsck · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The thing is, they can and do live on 50c a day, but you cannot. The whole situation is different there. I'm not saying that living on 50c a day is pleasant, but if you would try to live on that, you would die of starvation within 10 days or so, but they will still be there and be happily making even more babies to live in even worse conditions later.

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  7. Re:The poor will always be with us by Thanshin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Poverty is the oldest profession...

    I disagree. Poverty is very unnatural. Many natural professions predate even the possibility of poverty: Hired muscle, Prostitute, Priest, Slaver.

  8. that adjustment is included. Rice 8 cents per serv by raymorris · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You're mistaken, it really is $2 / day, exactly like if you lived on $2 / day. You THINK you'd starve. In fact, you'd find out rice is 8 cents per serving. Potatos are slightly more. You've probably bought ramen noodles at 12 cents. You can eat on 30 cents per day. You're not eating at Olive Garden or drinking Starbucks, but you're eating.

    At that, some people in Africa DO starve because they don't jhave the 30 cents per day. You could live off three packs of ramen per day, so can they - it's exactly the same. The only difference is that you and I complain about overdone pizza, they would rejoice over the same pizza.

  9. Giving everyone $2/day: by tlambert · · Score: 2

    Giving everyone $2/day:

    1.033 billion people * $2/day * 365 days/year = $754 billion

    That's assuming that, because of local scarcity, the influx of cash doesn't just inflate the cost of everything, leaving everyone in exactly the same place they are today, only unable to afford food next year.

    About the best aid we could possibly send to Africa would be to hire a bunch of Academi assassins to take down the corrupt politicians who are causing food aid to rot on the docks while the people the politicians want to oppress starve so that they can't rally sufficient effort to stage a violent overthrow of their corrupt governments.

    1. Re:Giving everyone $2/day: by tlambert · · Score: 4, Funny

      "...hire a bunch of Academi assassins to take down the corrupt politicians..."

      Maybe we should do a kickstarter?

    2. Re:Giving everyone $2/day: by Trepidity · · Score: 2

      The assassination thing gets tried now and then, but assassinated leaders have a habit of being replaced by other leaders, who are not always better. Sometimes, instead, they're replaced by multiple would-be leaders and a civil war, also not necessarily better.

  10. Re:Wow, really? by VortexCortex · · Score: 5, Funny

    What you have to ask yourself now is: What if the first woosh was the actual meta-woosh.

    And just like that I invented the quantum woosh pair. The entangled meta woosh states now exist in super positions of themselves.

  11. Re:The poor will always be with us by VortexCortex · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Poverty is the oldest profession...

    I disagree. Poverty is very unnatural. Many natural professions predate even the possibility of poverty: Hired muscle, Prostitute, Priest, Slaver.

    This begs the question. Are the apes not poor by human standards? If we gave them jobs wouldn't they be impoverished prior, and haven't they been since before humans had jobs? Additionally: Have you never considered the first Hired muscle, Prostitute, Priest, and Slavers took up the job because they were too poor not to turn it down?

  12. Africa needs space by XB-70 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    When I was a kid in the 60s, we had an African student stay with us. He was studying climatology. He was also fascinated by space. After graduation he returned to his home country. Using the information he had acquired, he collected satellite data on weather conditions (which was very advanced thinking for that time). He went into the country-side and advised local farmers of impending droubts, locust infestations and floods. The first year he did it, they were, at best, dismissive. When he went back to them after his forecasts has proved correct, they eagerly listened to him and it changed the agrarian economy. He also advised fishermen of temperature changes off-shore indicating optimal times to fish. This allowed local fishermen to get out to the fish before the huge Japanese trawlers came and took everything.

    He went on to have his own department at the local University.

    Of course, because of his good work, his nation rewarded him with threats to the lives of himself, his wife and his family so I won't state his name or other information about him here.

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  13. United Nations thinks it's a good idea by tomhath · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yet Joseph Akinyede, director of the African Regional Centre for Space Science and Technology Education in Nigeria, an education centre affiliated with the United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs, says that the application of space science technology and research to “basic necessities” of life – health, education, energy, food security, environmental management – is critical for the development of the continent.

    Yea, send more UN money. I'm confident that the leaders of those countries will spend it wisely.

  14. Re:Might sound racist.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would pointing out the corruption of African govts be racist? It is a testament to the degree of indoctrination suffered by many westerners that they feel the need to carefully examine any negative statement involving blacks in any context for possible racial insensitivity. A crook is a crook. Africa didn't invent (well, maybe Africa did, depending on human origins) and doesn't have a monopoly on political corruption. The white countries of the west are wealthy and function well because they developed the cultures and institutions that create wealth and provide security in body and property for the individuals in those countries. There is no reason to feel guilty about coming from a well-functioning society and no reason to feel guilty about pointing out how screwed up other countries are. Such attitudes of excessive self-examination can lead to self-loathing which will inevitably result in Detroit.

  15. Only to the fools by morgauxo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    " it may seem rather inappropriate to launch space programs in sub-Saharan Africa, where nearly 70% of the population still lives on less $2 a day"

    Only to the fools.

    A space program creates jobs, develops technology and gives people somethig to be proud of and aspire towards. It will always be easy to count the money that goes into any space program but the benefits and money coming out will outweigh the cost. It's harder to count that though so the fools will always be around holding manking back.

    I don't care what you are working towards, wherever you set your goals you will almost always fall a little short. If their goal is just to provide everyone the minimal basics, food, clean water and shelter then they will fail to do even that. If their goal is to make continual progress and achieve great things the outcome will still be less than the goal but the basics will be more than covered.

    We don't need to convert populations living off of $2 into populations living off of $3. We need to convert them to healthy, prosperous and advancing communities everywhere and in every way.

  16. Re:Wow, really? by Walterk · · Score: 2

    My theory is that it's whooshes all the way down.

  17. Re:Quote by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    I think Africa has larger issues to deal with first, before sending someone into space...but that's just my viewpoint

    Investment in space investment in Africa (which is a big place) is also investment in infrastructure in Africa, because you can't achieve it otherwise.

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