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Inside Microsoft's Digital Crimes Unit

jfruh writes "You may find it mildly creepy that Microsoft has a private police force, but the Digital Crimes Unit has helped real law enforcement do things like disrupt huge botnets. According to Richard Boscovich, assistant general counsel for the Digital Crimes Unit, Microsoft is only able to do all this by relying on the company's existing infrastructure, including its Azure cloud service. The DCU can provision compute time from the cloud as necessary to combat complex threats, he said, and also uses cloud services to share information with law enforcement agencies quickly."

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  1. Digital Crimes Unit by korbulon · · Score: 5, Funny

    AKA the Windows 8 development team.

    1. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by korbulon · · Score: 4, Funny

      A joke at Microsoft's expense moderated as Troll on Slashdot? Well now I've seen everything.

    2. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by fisted · · Score: 1

      You didn't honestly think /. wouldn't have its share of Microsoft fanboys?

      Best Regards, A member of the BSD fanboy fraction.

    3. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 1

      I was thinking that the Office development team was renamed for few seconds...

    4. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by korbulon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was thinking that the Office development team was renamed for few seconds...

      That would be the Special Victims Unit.

    5. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Microsoft doesn't have fanboys, Apple does. Microsoft has shills -- nobody but Microsoft employees, computer repairmen, antivirus companies, and MS shareholders have any love at all for Microsoft.

      Apple has fans.
      Microsoft has shills.
      Linux has zealots (I'm one)

      If Microsoft didn't suck I wouldn't be using Linux.

    6. Re:Digital Crimes Unit by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      ++1. Too bad I run out of mod points.

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  2. Misinterpeted headline by SirGarlon · · Score: 4, Funny

    And here I thought from the headline that TFA would be about a group at Microsoft in charge of *committing* digital crimes!

    (That would have been funnier 15 years ago. At this point, I would say if Microsoft needed a full-time team to commit crimes, it would be only so they could catch up to the competition.)

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    1. Re:Misinterpeted headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That was true 15 years ago: how do you think Windows NT happened? They hired David Cutler from DEC, and he brought along the guts of VMS.

    2. Re:Misinterpeted headline by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Failing that they could always employ apk to fine-tune their hosts file security, and he has plenty of stalking experience already.

  3. Creating a Solution for a Problem they Created by stonebit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does this sound corrupt or what? They created the problem and now they have a solution, but at a cost. Sounds like double dipping into the customer's wallet.

    1. Re:Creating a Solution for a Problem they Created by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      Does this sound corrupt or what? They created the problem and now they have a solution, but at a cost. Sounds like double dipping into the customer's wallet.

      So people or companies shouldn't try to fix problems they created?

    2. Re:Creating a Solution for a Problem they Created by icebike · · Score: 1

      Does this sound corrupt or what? They created the problem and now they have a solution, but at a cost. Sounds like double dipping into the customer's wallet.

      So people or companies shouldn't try to fix problems they created?

      Not sure I've heard anyone complaining, other than about the price of Azure services.

      It now appears Azure users are picking up the tab for building Microsoft's private bot army which it uses to take down other bot armies. Some of this is good, but you have to assume most of it is self serving. In addition to taking down hackers, we can only guess what else they might be collecting and who else they might be serving.

      I won't pay for Azure when I know significant parts of the infrastructure are intended only for Microsoft's private vendettas.

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  4. Yea ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Microsoft is only able to do all this by relying on the company's existing infrastructure, including its Azure cloud service"

    Yea sure, the cloud enabled you to do this. Infomercial much?

    1. Re:Yea ok by hawguy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Microsoft is only able to do all this by relying on the company's existing infrastructure, including its Azure cloud service"

      Yea sure, the cloud enabled you to do this. Infomercial much?

      I was wondering about that too -- how much compute power does it take to combat a Botnet, and why does it require Azure -- couldn't Amazon AWS would just as well?

    2. Re:Yea ok by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      Why use someone else's cloud when you can plug your own? That, and the money stays in-house instead of going to a competitor.

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    3. Re:Yea ok by hawguy · · Score: 2

      Why use someone else's cloud when you can plug your own? That, and the money stays in-house instead of going to a competitor.

      Well yeah, I understand why Microsoft uses Azure, but they make it sound like Azure is an important part of why Microsoft can fight off a botnet, when there are plenty of other cloud services out there that have similar capabilities.

    4. Re:Yea ok by TFlan91 · · Score: 2

      My point wasn't how does Azure suddenly make this possible. My point was how does cloud computing in general make this happen?

      Anything you do on the "cloud", i can do in my basement.

    5. Re:Yea ok by hawguy · · Score: 2

      My point wasn't how does Azure suddenly make this possible. My point was how does cloud computing in general make this happen?

      Anything you do on the "cloud", i can do in my basement.

      The cloud can make some things much more economical. If you need 1000 servers spun up within an hour and only need them for 24 hours, you're going to spend a lot more doing that in your basement than you'd spend at a cloud provider.

    6. Re:Yea ok by icebike · · Score: 1

      Why use someone else's cloud when you can plug your own? That, and the money stays in-house instead of going to a competitor.

      And why build your own cloud when you can have your users fund it for you. If Microsoft wasn't funneling off resources from Azure for their own pet projects, who much less would it cost the average user?

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    7. Re:Yea ok by hawguy · · Score: 1

      My point wasn't how does Azure suddenly make this possible. My point was how does cloud computing in general make this happen?

      Anything you do on the "cloud", i can do in my basement.

      The cloud can make some things much more economical. If you need 1000 servers spun up within an hour and only need them for 24 hours, you're going to spend a lot more doing that in your basement than you'd spend at a cloud provider.

      How did this get modded "troll"?

  5. Law & Order: DCU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    In the digital justice system, the people are represented by two separate yet equally important values. The ones who investigate crime and the zeros who prosecute the offenders. These are their stories. Dun Dun.

    1. Re:Law & Order: DCU by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Well done, ac, well done.

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  6. "Microsoft has a private police force" by rmdingler · · Score: 1

    Not nearly quite as unsettling as the government having a public one.

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  7. Re:When do we get Law and Order:DCU by WolfgangPG · · Score: 1

    Ugh, I got beat... :(

  8. only with azure? by ZiggyM · · Score: 1

    Can be done with any of the cloud providers. They just chose azure but doesnt mean it can "only" be done with it like they say in the slashvertisement.

  9. Re:If only... by RaceProUK · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Yes they could have had a proper security model in the early 90s, and yes they could have forced all users to run under limited accounts by default. But let's not let that get in the way of the #1 reason Windows has this many known vulnerabilities - when you're on 90%+ of the world's PCs, you make one hell of a juicy target.

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  10. yeah yeah yeah, but... by BringsApples · · Score: 4, Informative

    They may assist the police with some things, but what they mostly do is go around making sure that you have (the correct) licenses for your windows boxes. Anyone that's dealt with Microsoft's licenses knows that it's a huge mess that's difficult to understand as some licenses overlap in their design. Once you have the wrong license, even if the license that you have is much much more expensive than the one you need, these guys come at you bro, hard - as if you are a criminal.

    It's this very business model that we all loathe so.

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  11. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    That's troll's getting a little old, son. Better quit now before you lose all your karma... if you have any left.

  12. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    (By the way, "their" should have been "there").

    The number of aliterates who are visiting slashdot these days astounds me. People who don't read on a nerd site? It's sad how many people here in the last five years or so can't handle homophones, use grocers' apostrophes, and think "lose" and "loose" are synonyms (if the word "synonym is even in their vocabulary).

    As to the aliterate's comment, he was right -- just look at this comment. A humorous jab at Microsoft's most hated OS ever and he gets modded "troll". Nobody but a shill would downmod that comment, it should be +3 funny and the shill who modded him down should never get mod points again.

  13. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by davester666 · · Score: 1

    I thought the title was about Microsoft's UI design team.

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  14. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    Okay mister, guess I had a good run with that one. I'll be more careful in future - gotta keep good karma.

    **waits for McGrew to leave the room and go berate some other young'un, checks the coast is clear and starts looking for another first post to troll**

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  15. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    Look, I'm not willing to read all these shenanigans about aliterates (although the lose/loose confusion really bugs me whenever I see it ;)

    That comment is currently marked at +5 funny, but I'm confused: isn't Vista the most hated Microsoft "OS"?

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  16. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by Some_Llama · · Score: 1

    you missed the trailing " on "synonym

    not pedantic enough perhaps?

  17. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by noh8rz10 · · Score: 1

    (By the way, "their" should have been "there").

    The number of aliterates who are visiting slashdot these days astounds me. People who don't read on a nerd site? It's sad how many people here in the last five years or so can't handle homophones, use grocers' apostrophes, and think "lose" and "loose" are synonyms (if the word "synonym is even in their vocabulary).

    Frownie face... Believe it or not, when I'm banging out a comment on my phone while on the crapper, I don't act like I'm composing a masterpiece. No need to hate, man.

  18. Re: fuck slashdot beta won't autofill the subject by NicWilson · · Score: 1

    Murphy...

  19. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    That's why I never comment with the phone. That's what the laptop is four; oops, FOR.

  20. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Talk to my editor, it's his fault.

  21. Re:If only... by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    Had they known in '85 how important the (as yet nonexistent) Internet would be, would they have made the same mistakes?

    What if Linux was dominant instead? Do you really believe there'd be no malware market?

    It never ceases to amaze me how many people don't realise hindsight is always 20/20.

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  22. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    Not any more, W8 surpassed it. Yet another triumph for Microsoft!

    I'm surprised that nobody thought "aliterate" was a misspelling of "illiterate". I usually get chuckles from that one, although the last time I did it somebody actually looked it up.

    Aliterates at a nerd site annoy me. You're a nerd, you read books. But these guys that don't know their from there from they're, well, to paraphrase Twain, an aliterate has no advantage over an illiterate."

    I think I'll make that my sig after Christmas.

  23. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by mcgrew · · Score: 1

    +5 funny

  24. Re:More like the NSA's crime unit by hawkinspeter · · Score: 1

    Actually I had to look it up as I thought it was a misspelling and I'd never seen that word before.

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