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Hawaii Desktop Stable Released, Powered By Qt 5.2 & Wayland

An anonymous reader writes "The Maui OS Project has made their first stable release of the Hawaii Desktop. Hawaii is still catching up with GNOME, Xfce, and KDE in terms of features, but it's written from scratch atop next-generation open-source technologies. In particular, Hawaii 0.2.0 is powered by the brand new Qt 5.2 tool-kit and runs natively on Wayland's Weston 1.3 compositor. Hawaii 0.2.0 carries all standard Linux desktop features but more advanced desktop functionality is planned while focusing around a Wayland design and eventually their own Green Island Compositor."

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  1. "next generation" my ass! by larry+bagina · · Score: 2, Funny

    QT is last generation. Next generation is javascript using node. It never blocks! It never wastes time creating new threads! That's why it's faster.

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    1. Re:"next generation" my ass! by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That was funny! Wait you were joking right?

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    2. Re:"next generation" my ass! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sadly, web monkeys really do believe this even if the parent is joking (and one really, really hopes they are joking).

    3. Re:"next generation" my ass! by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2, Funny

      The problem is what QT isn't web scale!

    4. Re:"next generation" my ass! by Desler · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why would QuickTime need to be web scale?

    5. Re:"next generation" my ass! by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      server side javascript... that never blocks! If you use C++ to read from a tcp connection, it can block and that makes it slow. node.js doesn't block so it's fast.

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  2. Waiting for it to mature by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll check it out when Hawaii reaches 0.5.0, and it better have the theme song play when I log in.

  3. Re:Way behind! by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 3, Funny

    Other than network transparency, what exactly of value does X do that Wayland doesn't?

    "Other than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?"

  4. Re:No screenshots? by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    Click the first link, screenshots halfway down the page.

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  5. They get it by TuringTest · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They have a main webpage with a clean design, and they explain what they do and why anyone in the target audience should care, without falling prey to corporate-speak. That alone bests more than 90% of previous desktop environments, yet is the bare minimum than any user-facing project should have. Plus, the FAQ and About pages actually explain their motivations rather than a few obscure technical details.

    That "operating system, a suite of software that makes your computer run" made me shed tears of joy.

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  6. Screenshots? by christurkel · · Score: 3

    Are there any screenshots available? I can't seem to find any.

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    1. Re:Screenshots? by normaldotcom · · Score: 5, Informative

      There are a few screenshots available on the Maui Project site: http://www.maui-project.org/#showcase

  7. Re:Way behind! by laffer1 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    X works on my operating system.

  8. The Right Desktop is.... by tuppe666 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Another Desktop??? Can't we focus on getting ONE right?

    If only Windows 8 users had that option; how many would have taken it? I have moved from a full time Gnome User(Driven away by Gnome Shell) to KDE(Great Applications\Themeing....Poor Desktop) to XFCE(Like Gnome 2 at its best, with some cravats/advantages).

    The bottom line is there may not be One right, maybe many rights and many wrongs. Android is a great Phone OS but I would not like to use it full time as my Desktop...but to have access to its large catalogue of touchscreen games on GNU/Linux I would kill for, and there is no reason they can't run in a tradition WIMP environment.

  9. Re:Way behind! by Uecker · · Score: 2

    Decades of backwards and forwards compatibility. The real question is: What does Wayland offer?

    And yes, I think it is stupid to design in 2013 a display protocol which is not network transparent at its core. In a world where internet is finally everywhere, and X (if embraced) would allow to move a game from smartphone to TV when coming home. Or a text window from notebook to tablet for discussion around a table, or .... And no, RDP does not cut it.

  10. Re:More like 66%...Yes Really? by realityimpaired · · Score: 2

    Don't think it's fair to count Android devices as Linux, given that it's a very closed platform and doesn't have any of the basic functionality that most of us expect from a desktop operating system.

    Though given the direction Microsoft and Apple seem to want to go with their desktop systems... maybe in a couple of years it'll be a fair comparison. :)

  11. Re:Network Transparency ... solved by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Funny

    You sed:

    sed s/sed/said/

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  12. Re:Bad Marketing for Adaptation by MrEricSir · · Score: 2

    You mean like the image you get by going to their home page and clicking the download link?

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  13. Re:Network Transparency ... solved by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Interesting

    " You have no idea what "network transparency" really means."

    No... you don't.

    Me*: Network transparency means that applications can render graphics to a local terminal or over a network with zero changes in code path and zero need to know anything about the underlying rendering model. Therefore, any remotely modern version of X.org is by definition not network transparent since every since modern local rendering technique such as DRI and compositing is completely incompatible with the fallback socket-based path that is used for networking remote X programs. Consequently, modern X is not network transparent and people who can't understand that just because it is still possible to send X pixmaps over a network socket in a kludgy manner does not mean X is "transparent" should maybe do some research on how X actually works instead of hurling insults.

      Modern X-remoting is effectively pushing pixmaps over a socket in an inefficient manner. It is fundamentally different than the modern composited rendering path that effectively bypasses 99.9% of the original X server and is where Wayland is going. Additionally, if X were so beautifully perfect at network transparency then using it over a WAN connection wouldn't be one of the leading causes of suicide in network administrators and proxies like NX would never have come into existence.

    Where "Me" includes the X.org developers including Keith Packard BTW.

    You: "I MADE PRETTY PICTURES GO OVAR INTARNETS!! DARR!! NETWORK TRANSPARENT! SINCE SOME TYPES OF RDP ONLY TRANSFER DESKTOPS NOT INVIDUAL WINDOWS RDP NOT NETWORK TRANSPARENT!! DAR!!! X DEVELOPERS ARE STOOPID AND DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT X!!! DAR!!"

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  14. Re:Wayland hasn't died yet? by caseih · · Score: 2

    And what track is this?

    Please watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIctzAQOe44 before you comment on Wayland.

  15. Cannot be run on VirtualBox by functor0 · · Score: 2

    I going to try it but no QEMU or VirtualBox support yet.