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NSA Drowns In Useless Data, Impeding Work, Former Employee Claims
An anonymous reader writes in with this story of confusion at the NSA due to the flood of data they harvest. "Some of the documents released by Mr. Snowden detail concerns inside the NSA about drowning in information. An internal briefing document in 2012 about foreign cellphone-location tracking by the agency said the efforts were 'outpacing our ability to ingest, process and store' data. In March 2013, some NSA analysts asked for permission to collect less data through a program called Muscular because the 'relatively small intelligence value it contains does not justify the sheer volume of collection,' another document shows. In response to questions about Mr. Binney's claims, an NSA spokeswoman says the agency is 'not collecting everything, but we do need the tools to collect intelligence on foreign adversaries who wish to do harm to the nation and its allies.'"
Simply build a new $1.5 billion data center to process the collected data.
"National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
Because it's only simulated drowning.
And if that don't work: collect more useless data.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
I think this is the problem at most companies. Once someone in charge has a "good" idea, then no one else can point out how stupid it is. Collecting data is easy, cheap. Analyzing it is what is expensive. And useful. Collecting unanalyzed data is a waste of time and effort. Period.
And the first analysis is: what sort of data should we collect to make analysis easier? But of course, if people actually analyzed the process itself, someone would have already pointed out that the only way to measure cost-effectiveness is to have an actual goal in mind. Collecting everything you can get your hands is an easy goal to state.
Stating why all that data will help you prevent attacks on America instead of being viewed as an attack on Americans is a whole lot harder to articulate.
Same old same old.
It's a lot easier to invade a country than it is to state what peace would really have to look like.
We have all this yummy data we gorged on, and we can't digest it all.
Obviously, we need a bigger budget for more contractor analysts and hiring Google to write better analytical tools.
Scruting the inscrutable for over 50 years.
Reminds me of this.
An easier solution .... treat foreigners as you would have them treat yourself or your compatriots. Apply the same standards of "justice" that you would meet out on your own citizens. That means no torture, no dronings, and respect for international law. In the end a much more successful strategy, and certainly a far cheaper one. Foreigners are not inherently evil, nor are they all plotting your demise. They are people who deserve equality.
The NSA knew about some of the 9-11 hijackers, but it was lost in the noise (and in lack of interdepartmental information sharing). The solution, suck in more noise? Makes little sense to me.
Silence is a state of mime.
Good. Let's create some more useless data for them, I'm starting a second Tor node and a Freenet node tonight.
"we do need the tools to collect intelligence on foreign adversaries who wish to do harm to the nation and its allies."
Ahh, good, something we can agree on. You should have those tools. And you do have them, even without the dragnets. Here's how they work:
1. Pick the person who you believe wishes to do harm to the nation and its allies.
2. Start collecting surveillance.
3. Present to an appropriately skeptical judge the reasons that you believe that person wishes to do harm to the nation and its allies.
4. The judge will decide whether your evidence amounts to reasonable suspicion.
5. As long as the judge agrees, you can continue the surveillance.
It's a pretty cool system, really. It ensures that you get the surveillance on people who really do appear to be up to something, while protecting the vast majority of people who are innocent.
Stop-Prism.org: Opt Out of Surveillance
Yeah, this 'employee' is claiming that they actually asked to collect less but were forced against their will to collect more than they can handle? Flat out bullshit.
They know the cats out of the bag so now they're just going to run with "We've got more information than we can use, so you really have nothing to worry about us hoarding all your data and in fact the more we collect the safer you are!"
Where have we seen this before? Oh that's right, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"
(captcha: seducing)
We are back to the pre Snowden classic - too much information. :)
This has never been a problem due to fast sorting, keywords, voice prints, numbers called and cheap storage.
GCHQ and the NSA could get every call from Intelsat back the late 1960's for sorting and indexing. Once you have the total 'in' and 'out' points of any nation as its telco networks is constructed: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering shows how easy a lifetime of collection can be and looks like under one small program
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
That's all very nice, but be clear -
Bruce Schneier: Crypto works.
much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
Thin Thread
http://www.businessinsider.com/nsa-whistleblower-william-binney-was-right-2013-6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread
http://www.whistleblower.org/program-areas/homeland-security-a-human-rights/surveillance/nsa-whistleblowers-bill-binney-a-j-kirk-wiebe
Binney.
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/backissues/2013/06/takes-the-nsas-surveillance-programs.html
http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/exclusive_national_security_agency_whistleblower_william
http://publicintelligence.net/binney-nsa-declaration/
Reinstate him as DNI.
This mass collection is not about what they can process or correlate with terrorism or whatever. This massive amount is dangerous because they can target individuals. You simply can not assume that all this power will be used for the good of the nation, the inner workings of this huge system are manned by humans. They are prone to corruption, bribery, self interest and so on.
This much power with this little accountability is just bound to be used for personal gain. Imagine if some worker of this system decides he really does not like his neighbor guts. He could target that individual and discover that for example he is having an affair and the disclose that information to cause harm to that individual in particular. Well change that neighbor to some politician that is contrary to the current governing party.
The funny thing is that Metal Gear Solid 2 foretold all this more than a decade ago.
My attention span is too short to read that comment.
Your ingenious technique for not drowning in useless data is much more cost-effective than anything the NSA will come up with.
With advice on air gaps, help people find/write better code, cpu and networking http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/06/28/0136202/richard-stallman-speaks-about-back-doors-after-nsa-documents-leak :) :)
That would help some physical sites. Get people thinking about crypto - the historical ways in during pre ww2, ww2, the cold war, 1990's and via the good news from Snowden.
Re conscientious objection - support mainstream and alternative media, legal rights groups and educators all over the political spectrum.
Learn from work done in US courts like: http://www.freedomwatchusa.org/court-declares-nsa-spying-program-unconstitutional-and-grant
Parallel construction https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering
The domestic legal vision of a life long box for all your phone calls
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2013/06/surveillance_lockbox_why_can_the_nsa_search_your_phone_records_without_a.html
Start *any* discussion is the best thing you can do. Long worded emails to the press about material they covered with all the terms they used and your insights
Like in East Germany, standing in front of the Church with a sign, you will be *noted* by a powerful State but a lot of people will read your wise words.
Read all you can: http://cryptome.org/2013-info/06/whistleblowing/whistleblowing.htm is not new
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
"When governments unethically and immorally, but legally force the turnover of keys that won't change."
FTFY
I have a better idea. The police forces and security services should do actual police work, instead of eavesdropping on the entire population. Detective work and investigations are labor intensive, but the US constitution demands that such labor be used instead of just spying on everyone.
"Windows is like the faint smell of piss in a subway: it's there, and there's nothing you can do about it." - Charlie Br
Is not for terrorism, or even drug fighting. Its a tool for the Democrats or Republicans, whoever is in power, to snoop on their political opponents and line their pockets by stealing civilian secrets. Look at the IRS scandal, look at Fast & Furious / Gunwalker. Nothing is beyond this out of control, corrupt as heck govt. Probably more corrupt than Russia or wherever in the world, they just were able to hide most of it (until Snowden).
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But never, ever dare ask why so many wish to do harm to the Imperial Us and our henchman, upon pain of treasonous death.